So far it looks like the 11800H may have been a significant part of that. So there are definitely some 8-core parts.
Boost clocks are significantly higher, base clocks are lower. AVX will drag clocks down like always. wait for the reviews…
Sorry, I should have been more specific in my post. What I meant to say is that at a given frequency 8 core TGL seems to have comparable power draw to Zen 3.
If it's true Intel has already shipped a million of these parts then it seems like they should have skipped Rocket Lake and simply gone Tiger Lake to the desktop at 10SF along with the high performance mobile. Comet Lake could have filled the gap in demand for the desktop and they would have had some 8 core parts that would have actually been good competition for the 5800X. And of course avoided the cost and review disaster that appears to be Rocket Lake. I realize that Rocket was probably initiated years ago and whomever led that course of action made a wrong turn. Easy to see in hindsight of course.
Let me elaborate. In hindsight, it seems like Intel should have continued on with Comet Lake and split Tiger Lake H production between high power mobile and high end desktop, using Comet Lake to fill in any gaps in demand from big partners like Dell. Tiger Lake H would have been better competition for Zen 3, they would have avoided the backport cost, both in time and labor for Rocket Lake, and they would have still kept their 14+++++++ foundries operating with Comet Lake. While Tiger Lake H assumed the new desktop position, the old Comet Lake fabs could be transitioned to 10ESF for Alder Lake.
I have limited knowledge compared to many here I admit and I'm sure there are plenty of technical reasons this couldn't have happened. But if I don't put it out there I won't learn anything about why my thinking is misguided.