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RocketLake will have a version of SunnyCove core that is not the same as the one in IceLake or TigerLake. If you are expecting 18% IPC jump then you will be disappointed.
That's the infamous Skylake's "gaming" IPC. It held so well for 5-6 years because of great gaming results improved by higher cpu and memory clocks over time.Ideally in 2020 Q4, but Intel punctuality means probably 2021 Q1 or Q2.
Rocket Lake will use Sunny/Willow Cove, already proven in Ice/Tiger Lake to have on average 1.18x IPC of Skylake. Rocket Lake has been seen to run 5.0 GHz (Geekbench), which suggests frequency won't decline too much from Comet Lake's.
I was going through Tom's Hardware GeForce RTX 3080 CPU scaling article to see how "IPC" relates to gaming performance:
Comparing Core i3-10100 (4.1 GHz all-core) to i7-4770K OC (4.3 GHz), same config of 4 cores + HT, the i3-10100 gets 1.237x the frame rate of i7-4770K. Now, I don't remember Skylake having greater than 1.23x performance per clock than Haswell does.
Individual games:
Game i7-4770K 4.3 GHz i3-10100 4.1 GHz Ratio Borderlands 3 120.0 141.2 1.177 The Division 2 122.0 157.1 1.288 Far Cry 5 95.0 125.0 1.316 Final Fantasy XIV 171.4 187.9 1.096 Forza Horizon 4 120.4 157.4 1.307 Metro Exodus 87.7 109.1 1.244 Red Dead Redemption 2 102.5 118.5 1.156 Shadow of the Tomb Raider 95.5 134.6 1.409 Strange Brigade 250.9 310.7 1.238
mine too, then I got a question from my father "and now what?" and I didn't know what to sayMy first research paper was a literature review.
that is Intel's next stepThe 'what is next' is the 10nm Enhanced SuperFin.
Any news on Alder Lake desktop release date? Any sign it will be delayed by DDR5 availability? I'm hoping it releases within 2021, as my 6700k is going to struggle a bit (even at 4k) when my 3090 arrives.
It's already been discussed on the forums that ICL had serious variability issues based on performance scaling we saw going from i7 to i5 (sustained perf took a serious dive). I expect TGL to do a lot better in this regard, since the frequency delta going down from i7 to i5 and i3 respectively has increased considerably. If we ignore the (rare) top i7 bin of each gen, the i7- > i3 max turbo frequency delta for ICL was 500Mhz, in TGL it has increased to 1Ghz. The lower quality i5 and i3 have a much easier performance target this time. (realtive to top bin)my contact from the biggest retailer here told me, that icelake notebugs have liek 300MHz all core turbo variability within the same power and model
so the next is like
- voltage/freq/power curve
- predicted enhanced superfin/10nm+++/wtfFIN curve
- variability...
- my contact from the biggest retailer here told me, that icelake notebugs have liek 300MHz all core turbo variability within the same power and model
- icelake/tigerlake overclocking/undervolting?
- whatever
that is how to separate from the reposters of reposterd and collectors of collected IMO
Android is a single software product and naming releases by numbers is how almost everyone does it.Android stopped with the alphabetic names and now it's just Android 11, so Intel can stop with the water names and call it Intel xx. That said I'm waiting for Rocket Lake and its pcie4.
this entire thread is about ....lakes...A test for when we get frequency control over the CPU. Sub-binning notwithstanding (a detail we've noted in smartphone reviews).
Not relevant to a discussion about process node naming
This doesn't make sense. List filler.
Hard to test without multiple versions of the same hardware, which is something we never get.
But also, remember that Intel doesn't guarantee any turbo frequency. Base frequency at TDP is all they guarantee. So variability on turbo is just luck.
OEMs deciding to put a wider range of bins in a singular product is something they would have built for. More an OEM problem than an Intel problem.
Certainly not relevant to a topic talking about node naming.
See point 1.
More list filler.
Seriously though, you're talking about testing. The article was purely about node naming. Try to keep it on-topic perhaps.
The Tiger Lake review article was here:
21000 words for you to read.
I think my brain had a stronk reading this
I assume first Alderlake will be mobile and in Fall just like Tigerlake.
Inless I read it wrong, its just chipsets... No CPU info.
OK< way too technical for me,....You read it wrong. Chipsets are on top of the page, CPUs are next.
There are reasons why in the old Sandy Bridge, Haswell, Skylake days desktop versions were available before mobile and same for AMD, it takes more time for a notebook version.
TGL and ADL is not same architecture, but yeah I have similar feeling that Intel's schedule/naming is weird by now......Seems intel decide to have seperate development for both desktop&mobile, but it's getting more&more puzzled to understand the difference(at least for me). This may be a result of 10nm's yield problem and being so late to the market.I'm still wondering a bit at TigerLake-H coming out in Q2 2021. Why is it going to be so late? How does that position it in Intel's product lineup? What does that tell us about Alder Lake-P?
That it's later.I'm still wondering a bit at TigerLake-H coming out in Q2 2021. Why is it going to be so late? How does that position it in Intel's product lineup? What does that tell us about Alder Lake-P?