Intel Coffee Lake Speculation Thread

Mar 10, 2006
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As you all know, Intel's next desktop processor family for desktops after Kaby Lake is known as Coffee Lake. PC Watch has said that this product will go up to 6 cores and will have GT3e graphics. Digitimes says it'll come out in the second half of 2017.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/ubiq/1010830.html

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20160904PD201.html

Anybody care to speculate as to what Coffee Lake might consist of? Do you think Intel will re-use the same Skylake cores and Gen. 9 GPU? Or do you think they will port the Cannonlake cores to 14nm and perhaps use Gen. 10 GPU? Or maybe Skylake cores on the CPU side and Gen. 10 GPU cores?

Speculation highly encouraged :)
 

Eug

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I find this confusing. I was looking for Cannonlake 10 nm for all the SKUs, but then Coffee Lake would come at the same time with new chips on a different process.

I guess 10 nm really is that hard after all.
 

chucky2

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What really would be nice to see clarified from Intel would be what their 200 series chipset on HEDT and Desktop is going to support exactly. Will it just be Kaby Lake? Cannonlake-X on HEDT and just Kaby Lake on Desktop? Or are we going to get lucky with Kaby Lake 200 series motherboards and they'll support not only Kaby Lake, but Coffee Lake and also Cannonlake (and if Cannonlake, will it support Icelake as well?). If all Kaby Lake 200 series motherboards will support is Kaby Lake, that will really be disappointing... :(
 

NostaSeronx

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Coffee Lake speculation from NostraSeronx;

Triple-channel DDR4 support; DDR4-5332 MHz achievable @ 1.2V.
GT3e = 96 EU + 128 MB eDRAM on die.
GT4e = 128 EU[no eDRAM on die] + 2 GB MCDRAM on package. [Server & Embedded only]
 

deasd

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I read the article about Coffee Lake from PCWatch and found the string under the roadmap said, 'Intel's processor roadmap(Author's speculation) '
Later I searched around the web but found nothing about 'Coffee Lake' codename from Intel official, except PCWatch.
What WCCF mentioned in its article:
The memo referenced two other products – Coffee Lake and Glenview – that Intel hasn’t discussed publicly.

Nothing is nailed down yet. All the 'info' were directly from PCWatch...... Now I suspect there's
misunderstanding when people translate Japanese to other language.....
 

Apoplexy

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I will be shocked if it actually comes out in 2H of 2017. I say first half of 2018 at the earliest.
 

PaulIntellini

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Coffee-Lake-U: 14nm single die with 64mB eDRAM and PCH all integrated.

(I doubt that's true, bu would be nice to see how efficient this chip is..)
 

AtenRa

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If H2 2017 is correct for CoffeLake, then Kabylake is another Broadwell.
 

Borealis7

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If H2 2017 is correct for CoffeLake, then Kabylake is another Broadwell.
right now Kabylake is Ultra-Mobile's Jesus reincarnate, Jan 2017 we will see how it is on desktops. Cannonlake could be a Broadwell, and Coffeelake sounds to me like it should be a 2018 product according to intel's 3 year cycle.
 
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AtenRa

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Im talking about Desktop KabyLake,

If Desktop Kaby will release in Q1 2017 and then CoffeLake will be released in H2 2017, its almost the same thing happened with Desktop Broadwell (June 2015) and Skylake(August 2015).
 

mohit9206

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When is Icelake coming? 2019? Because Coffeelake doesnt sound much of interest. Sandy to Icelake should be a good upgrade even though still not double the IPC of Sandy.If someone wants to double their performance from Sandy it would take Intel's 7nm CPU's in 2021 so a full 10 years.That's how much cpu progress has slowed down.
 

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jpiniero

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I think a better question is weather Coffee Lake uses LGA-1151, and we'll get new chipsets for it?

New socket for sure. But it would be compatible with Icelake.


I imagine it'd be like Kabylake where Intel would ship the product to OEMs in 2H 2018 but you wouldn't be able to buy anything other than U/Y until 2019.
 

witeken

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How de we know / Why do people think

that Coffee Lake is 14nm??????????????????
 

mikk

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I read the article about Coffee Lake from PCWatch and found the string under the roadmap said, 'Intel's processor roadmap(Author's speculation) '
Later I searched around the web but found nothing about 'Coffee Lake' codename from Intel official, except PCWatch.
What WCCF mentioned in its article:

Nothing is nailed down yet. All the 'info' were directly from PCWatch...... Now I suspect there's
misunderstanding when people translate Japanese to other language.....

You are wrong, Coffee Lake was a known CPU codename leaked by Intel long before PCWatch wrote something about it.

oregonlive said:
Renduchintala's memo listed six products, all still in development, as the focus of the new crash program to improve performance. They include:

  • Kaby Lake, the code name for a new microprocessor due to begin production late this year using Intel's current 14-nanometer technology.
  • Cannon Lake, Intel's first 10nm microprocessor, due late in 2017.
  • Ice Lake, the second generation of 10nm technology
  • Intel's forthcoming 7560 baseband modem, a future generation of mobile wireless technology.
  • The memo referenced two other products – Coffee Lake and Glenview – that Intel hasn't discussed publicly.
http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/04/intels_new_president_launches.html
 
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