Intel Coffee Lake - 2/4/6 core - 14nm

[Phynaz]

Ugh where are they getting these weird names from?

Intel project names come from places, usually in the western US.

 

[Doom2pro]

A Map? Kaby Lake is in Ontario. Coffee Lake is in Wisconsin.

Someone has to select them... There is an infinite number of weird places and names out there, most of which don't randomly end up as an Intel product's code name.

 

[2blzd]

wait, what?

What chip segment are these for? i3 i5?

 

[jpiniero]

wait, what?

What chip segment are these for? i3 i5?

All the Mobile segments.

The more I think about it, the chart is fake or too inaccurate to make any kind of judgements on it.

 

[Arachnotronic]

All the Mobile segments.

The more I think about it, the chart is fake or too inaccurate to make any kind of judgements on it.

It's the author speculation, not an official Intel road map. Hopefully BenchLife will provide us with some official goods soon.

 

[NostaSeronx]

What chip segment are these for? i3 i5?

i7 = 6c, i5 = 4c, i3 = 2c, m = 2c/10nm

Pentium might be High TDP of Core M.

Be awesome if all SKUs support AVX512.

 

[mikk]

It's the author speculation, not an official Intel road map.

His source comes from OEMs if my translator works. I wouldn't call this speculation.

 

[2blzd]

Well if you think about it, it kinda makes sense. There is no HEDT for mobile, maybe the 6C CL is the answer for that.

 

[beginner99]

It will be interresting to see how the HEDT line will adapt to this, I think its safe to say that 6C is gone and you will be hard pressed for an argument for 8C as well (on last seasons uarch no less). Dual sockets HEDT incoming?
Well, at least SOMETHING is happening, yay .

For HEDT they can just remove the PCIe limit on the 6-core. that limit was kind of a retarded market segmentation anyway as the reason to go HEDT would be multi-gpu or other high PCIe lane usage scenarios. So we then get 6-core, 8-core, 10-core. One can dream...

 

[LTC8K6]

Ugh where are they getting these weird names from? Kaby reminds me of Kirby's dreamland and Coffee? Straight out of Sun's Java!

I know it's completely irrelevant to performance but... Vomit.

What next? Intel Kobe Lakers?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_codenames

 

[aigomorla]

So intel is trying to be like google in there naming schemes thinking food will net bigger sales?

 

[2blzd]

Aren't these mobile chips??

How would that effect HEDT?

 

[ninaholic37]

Loving the name

A Lake of Coffee... my dream come true!

 

[frozentundra123456]

The more I think about it, this sounds like a fake. I just dont see 6 cores on mobile, when they wont even put six cores on the mainstream desktop.

 

[Arachnotronic]

The more I think about it, this sounds like a fake. I just dont see 6 cores on mobile, when they wont even put six cores on the mainstream desktop.

Mainstream desktop chips are mobile chips.

 

[SAAA]

The more I think about it, this sounds like a fake. I just dont see 6 cores on mobile, when they wont even put six cores on the mainstream desktop.

Mainstream desktop chips are mobile chips.

Well this speculation left me doubting too. We have seen Kabylake X quad core are going to be released more or less at the same time Coffe Lake is out... so we will have mainstream locked hex but unlocked quads at most? (beside 6-10 cores older generation Skylake X that is)
Sounds weird. At least 10nm by next year is confirmed, though it will be just smaller dual cores like it happened with 14nm release.
Also no mention of GT4 graphics: I hope the rumor of 40EUs for GT2 IGP is true so GT3 could have 80EUs, better than current GT4 with 72EUs. 10nm GT4 could be a 120EUs monster at that point... I'd expect no less from a shrink anyway.

 

[mikk]

when they wont even put six cores on the mainstream desktop.

Have you seen a current desktop Roadmap for 2018 or how can you say there won't be six cores for desktop as well? You might explain to us what Coffe Lake has to offer instead, it's a confirmed CPU code name being worked on by Intel.

We have seen Kabylake X quad core are going to be released more or less at the same time Coffe Lake is out

Kabylake-X= Q2 2017 desktop
Coffee Lake= 2018 mobile

There is no Roadmap or confirmation about Coffee Lake for desktop. But even if it comes then surely not at the same time as SKL-X.

 

[jpiniero]

Huh, I had totally missed the 14 nm part of Coffee Lake. That changes things quite a bit. Intel must want to burn more wafers out of the 14 nm fab. The 2018 desktop mainstream processors are also likely 14 nm then, but I don't know if you can say they will be Coffee Lake. It could just be rehashed Kabylake for all we know.

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

2018 is a long way out, and there's nothing to show that it has any architectural difference from Kaby Lake. It's just more segmentation. Clearly a reaction to Zen, which is supposed to bring more cores to the mainstream, and likely to mobile as well by 2018. It really just looks like Intel is showing their hand to the investors so that Zen does not steal the show.

The way I see it is it's about time laptops got more than 4 cores, but I don't really care. Like others, I'm more curious about when this is coming to desktop to compete with Zen CPUs. Congratulations AMD for finally getting Intel to do something. Now let's hope they can both follow through with their promises...

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

6 cores in a laptop sounds weird to me, but given things like the Thinkpad P50/P70, which have mobile Xeons, this may be the next step in that direction.

Probably we're only going to see these in workstation-class laptops, plus maybe a few "shiny toys for rich idiots" gaming models. Bet you this decision had a lot to do with Zen's promise of mainstream 8C/16T chips, though

 

[deasd]

6 core is still rumor. I just want cheaper dual core/4T SKU which have more overclock headroom, don't do anything meaningless.

 

[cytg111]

still feel like 6 cores is 2 cores too many. Maybe edge it up to 5 and see how it goes. 6C/12T sku still rings server duty to my ears.

 

[Arachnotronic]

6 cores in a laptop sounds weird to me, but given things like the Thinkpad P50/P70, which have mobile Xeons, this may be the next step in that direction.

Probably we're only going to see these in workstation-class laptops, plus maybe a few "shiny toys for rich idiots" gaming models. Bet you this decision had a lot to do with Zen's promise of mainstream 8C/16T chips, though

Zen 8C/16T is not a mainstream part. It is, by AMD's own words, a part aimed at high end desktop. And, just like Intel's high end desktop products, it uses a server die

Also, why do you assume that a gamer who buys a 6C/12T laptop is a "rich idiot"? There may be some ignorant people who have a lot of money, but by-and-large, you don't get rich by being stupid.

 

[ShintaiDK]

6 core is still rumor. I just want cheaper dual core/4T SKU which have more overclock headroom, don't do anything meaningless.

Its not a rumour. Intels official mobility roadmap had it too.

Coffee Lake CPUs uses Cannon Lake cores.