Intel chip to include antipiracy features. Does anyone know if this is true? Just wondering.

[CrazySaint]

Originally posted by: Bluga
So.....is it a reality?

Its a...future reality. Its gonna happen, but its not here yet.

 

[BaDaBooM]

Madrat... like I said it only pops up on internal networks... and it isn't a major issue because even with 50,000 clients chances are you won't get 2 of the same MAC out of 16 million available very often; maybe happen a couple times which is easy to fix when you find them. Although if you have 50,000 clients hooked to the same token ring, then you have other problems. j/k but my point is I doubt that your company is one network of 50,000 without any sort of firewalls/routers separating locations. My company had 125,000 employees (at that time) and many more nodes, but only about 5,000 at my location. Hopefully your company will spend some dough and step into the present by converting its token rings (unless there is a very good reason to keep them).

As far as using MAC addresses for security, I hardly think that is necessary for most situations. If the IP security is setup correctly, it is very secure. Off the top of my head I can see using it in wireless networks or maybe for VPNs, but not much else. Otherwise it is too much overhead when you can provide a highly secure environment using IP and physical access security (which you should have either way). That's just my opinion though. If you like, go wild with it.

 

[MadRat]

The token ring is going away, but when it gets down to it the token ring environments are ideal. If it wasn't for raw cost they'd be the way to go in large networks. As you know there isn't a single large company out there willing to spend dough right now...

 

[Fulcrum]

If this does really happen you can be sure there will be programs or other methods developed that can and will defeat whatever scheme they come up with, no matter how complicated or unbeatable it may seem. The problem with using copy protection to solve piracy problems is that the people who constantly use pirated software or those that distribute it will always find a way around it and continue to do so. The people who use mostly legal copies but get a few "discounts" now and then are the only ones who might be affected (if they don't have much knowledge about computers) but they aren't really the big problem. Because of this, most money spent on copy protection yields very little real financial returns. If the music industry for expample lowered prices a little (they could, despite what they may say), or embraced a better distribution model, or perhaps became more consumer friendly in some other innovative way, many of the "part time" pirates might not be so prevalent. No matter what, there will be a minority that pirate everything no matter what. Copy protection does nothing to stop this. It's all just bad economics, the record companies are trying to find a way to force the avg. consumer who would pay if they thought the price was reasonable, to pay what they won't always pay for every cd now because it is unreasonable to them for most cds. They are doing this all in the name of stopping pirates they know thay can't stop. Just my thoughts.

 

[Macro2]

RE:"The token ring is going away, but when it gets down to it the token ring environments are ideal. If it wasn't for raw cost they'd be the way to go in large networks"

Large networks? Maybe a couple hundred nodes. Too big and token rings bog and lag because you can't transmit unless you have the token. Ethernet is superior for large networks. So what are you saying?


MAC (not address)

 

[spanner]

The law is supposed to be enforced by the police and the state. Not Software/hardware and the RIAA. It also throws the innocent till proven guilty thing right out the window, I mean it assumes the copyrighting action is not for legit use and stops you in your tracks. The best we can hope for is that this becomes illigal in some major country forcing Intel/AMD to make separate chips that could possibly be "imported". I am sure there will be some sort of class action lawsuit when the "stops spam, piracy and hackers" routine fails, just be sure to give it your full support. You can also be sure to have more polititians go against it once their privacy starts getting invaded. And if all else fails then someone somewhere will develop a workaround.

 

So the new 3.0 gig coming out this year that has hyperthreading will have this antipiracy crap? Or is the antipirate stuff coming out later?

 

[ripthesystem]

Originally posted by: Phocas
So the new 3.0 gig coming out this year that has hyperthreading will have this antipiracy crap? Or is the antipirate stuff coming out later?

As far as I can tell all the P4's will be safe .. just the next generation - P5 that is supposed to incorporate this 'feature'