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Intel Broadwell-K & Skylake (non-K) desktop CPUs to launch in Q2-2015

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Homeles said:
So either Intel just won a bunch of design wins, or they're expecting Devil's Canyon to sell like hotcakes. Probably the former.
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It is true that INTC's weekly chart has been looking great for the last year. It is actually right up there among the technically strongest DOW components. But unlike HP, JNJ, or MMM, it never broke out, until recently. And by recently I mean 3 weeks ago. That's when it broke, not today. Today's move is interesting but clearly a big move has been long in the making. But since the chart has looked so technically strong for a whole year without any faults at all, I cant help but see it as simply fed funny money in rotation.
 
Guys, this isn't the general Intel financial thread. Please keep the topic on BDW-K and Skylake.🙂
-ViRGE
 
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It confirms CPU-world, sweclockers etc. Exactly how we expected it from their infos. In the second slide do you think Skylake only supports DDR3L and not regular DDR3?
 
Wow, really weird. Skylake-S and Broadwell-K for desktop released at the same after all if this is true.

So is the intention that the unlocked desktop CPUs will be one generation behind the rest of the desktop models going forward? What's the point in that. Is Intel intentionally making the unlocked K variants so unattractive that it will be phased out and eventually killed, so they'll have less SKUs to maintain? Or what other reasons could they have?
 
Do you remember that 14nm was delayed? Intel apparently didn't want to follow your doom scenario and delay Skylake to Q2-Q3 '16 and Cannonlake to 2017. They changed the roadmap so their Tick-Tock model could continue to exist.
 
Skylake-S DT/AIO Platform (All IO possibilities):

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Some observations:

* No HDMI 2.0 (only 1.4): So no external 4k @ 60 Hz, wider color space, etc. 😡 Also, it's weird that there's a note at the top right saying "DP/HDMI 40/23 @ 60 Hz", likely implying Full 4K Ultra High Definition (4K UHD, i.e. 4096 x 2304 resolution) @ 60 Hz, because that is not supported on HDMI 1.4 at that frame rate. Maybe the note only applies to AIO PCs when the display is built into the PC itself, iMac style?

* I wonder what they intend to use the proximity sensor, battery/charger and touch screen for on AIO PCs? Perhaps having the PC turn it self on when someone gets into proximity and stuff like that? :hmm:
 
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It will have HDMI 2.0. And it will also have DP1.3. eDP is mainly for laptops.

And if we had to believe that slide there would only be 2 SATA ports. And lacking useable USB3?
 
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ShintaiDK said:
It will have HDMI 2.0. And it will also have DP1.3.

And if we had to believe that slide there would only be 2 SATA ports.
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Who cares about SATA? Anyone building a Skylake system without a PCIe SSD is doing it wrong. 2 legacy SATA ports seems about right.
 
The chart actually reminds of the H81 capabilities. Reduced SATA ports, reduced USB3, no IO port flexibility, no SRT, no RST, only 2 display outputs etc. Seems to be an example of a Celeron/Pentium platform.
 
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I think you are going to have to expect this kind of co-mingling of generations to continue.

mikk said:
It confirms CPU-world, sweclockers etc. Exactly how we expected it from their infos. In the second slide do you think Skylake only supports DDR3L and not regular DDR3?
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Pretty sure it's DDR3L only for the U/Y models and DDR4 for everything else. I guess we will have to wait to see what DDR4 pricing looks like but I think it's still expected to be bad until the end of 2015. At some point you have to get some volume going for DDR4 so using the least important models to OEMs to get it going does make sense.

The chart actually reminds of the H81 capabilities. Reduced SATA ports, reduced USB3, no IO port flexibility, no SRT, no RST, only 2 display outputs etc. Seems to be an example of a Celeron/Pentium platform.
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H81 is pretty much what OEMs use. Remember it is still only that one 4+2 model.
 
Considering the DDR4 transition, Broadwell-K seems like the better option for desktop users. Skylake should be skipped entirely. DDR4 simply isn't mass-market ready.
 
NTMBK said:
Who cares about SATA? Anyone building a Skylake system without a PCIe SSD is doing it wrong. 2 legacy SATA ports seems about right.
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*facepalm* I don't even know where to begin. Don't apply your needs and wealth to everyone.
 
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Techhog said:
I don't even know where to begin with how dumb this post is. Don't apply your needs and wealth to everyone.
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PCI-E SSDs should be widely available and affordable by then. Only 2 SATA ports is definitely too small, though. Undoubtedly the scenario is as Shintai mentioned -- this is a low end chipset configuration.
Techhog said:
Considering the DDR4 transition, Broadwell-K seems like the better option for desktop users. Skylake should be skipped entirely. DDR4 simply isn't mass-market ready.
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Skylake isn't launching today...

DDR4 is actually already available for purchase.
 
Homeles said:
PCI-E SSDs should be widely available and affordable by then. Only 2 SATA ports is definitely too small, though. Undoubtedly the scenario is as Shintai mentioned -- this is a low end chipset configuration.
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2 SATA ports is fine for OEM desktops. One for the HD and the other for the optical drive. SSD is still rare there, but PCI-E SSD would give them something extra to sell.
 
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