Intel boots faster than AMD in win2k??

[loosbrew]

Hey all,
i know this sounds odd, well too me it did, but i read somewhere, and i cannot find where, that Intel systems boot faster than AMD systems in win2k. and when i read that it occurred to me as a possible reason why my friends PIII600 with a ata66 7200rpm Maxtor HDD boots win2k pro in about half the time as my Tbird 1066 IBM 60gxp HDD does! i always wondered why his would boot fatser but never gave it any thought. well here i am asking to almighty AT members to answer the unthinkable...do Intel systems boot faster in Win2K than AMd systems? and if so why? where i read that info also provided a reason, but like i said, i cant find it again. i believe it was at the AMDMB forums but not too sure.
Any thoughts?

loosbrew

 

[mithrandir2001]

Boot times have little bearing on the computational superiority of a machine. You could have a 2GHz Athlon that boots slower than a 733MHz P3 if the former has a NIC and the latter does not. The only real difference I can guess is that Intel and AMD systems use different PCI bridge and bus mastering drivers and Intel's may be more optimized?

How fast your system boots really isn't too significant. Servers, for instance, generally take forever to start up, but that doesn't matter because once they are up, they stay up.

 

[loosbrew]

ok, im wasnt trying to suggest that intel was better because of it, i was just trying to find out why, if it is true. i realize the difference between boot times with nics, and having dhcp enabled and yada yada...but i wanted to know if someone knew exactly why. again, im not concerned about one being better than the other, im just curious as to why one boots windows 200 faster than the other.
the busmastering drivers seems like a valid reason, and im wondering if theres any clout to it.
any one else?

thanks for the reply though!
loosbrew

 

[vash]

Win2k is quite finiky on the bootup situation. My AMD 1Ghz box boots it pretty quickly, but my wife's Intel P3-500 boots it a little bit fater than I do. Her hard drives are much faster than mine and I'm sure I'd get a boost if I had better drives in here.

Try out a 7200rpm drive or a 10,000rpm drive. That'll make Win2k boot up very fast.

vash

 

[dowxp]

in actuality guys, getting a faster hard drive doesnt mean its really faster. and, intel nor amd has to do with booting speed.

when you get scsi, the scsi bios takes up about 15-30 seconds, depending how many devices there. then the win2k startup. you know how on "regular 1 proc" machines, the bar starts out at 50%? well, on an smp machine, it starts at 0% and slowly makes its way up to 100%. after that, its whoooosh!


=)

 

[StormRider]

I think it depends on what other hardware and drivers are on the machines. I have 2 AMD K6-3/450 machine and one of them boots up a lot faster than the other machine.

Same processor but different motherboards (Via MVP3 versus Aladdin V), graphic cards, sound cards etc.

 

[dowxp]

as for hard drive speed, yes. faster hard drive does help. my previous conversion from 1 hard drive to ideraid was very signifigant.i cant tell from ideraid to scsi at all because well, it starts out at 0%. takes forever. probably 1.5minute bootup.

 

[loosbrew]

ok, lets put this into a little bit of perspective...My friends Dell PIII 600 MAxtor ata66 flies during bootup.
Specs...
PIII 600
Maxtor ATA66/7200rpm Drive
Tnt2 32meg AGP
Soundblaster Live!
Dlink NIC/DHCP enabled.
DVD & CDRW

you can see my rig from my sig. it used to be different, i swapped a few pieces here and there, but either way i do it, his system boots up faster than mine does. i dont have the raid enabled on my MB. either of them. i tried to set my own static IP, which works fine, but doenst so anything with the startup time. i used to use win2k pro, but ever since i have been in the MCSE courses im trying to learn up the server family, which i know takes a little bit longer than normal Pro to boot up, but wheni had pro it wasnt any different.
Not that this is such a big deal to me...its just a matter of curiousity.

thanks for the replies everyone!
keep em comin'
loosbrew

 

[Rogue]

Who cares anyway? The great thing about Win2k is that you don't have to reboot all the time!

 

[KpocAlypse]

Doesn't Intel do something with their BIOS to speed up booting times? Our 815EEA2L boards with Lan, 7200 rpm Maxtor, and p3 800s, boot a HELL of a lot faster than my p3 700, abit be6-2 and IBM 7200rpm setup.

 

[dowxp]

yes. i forgot what it was called.

 

[MrBond]

Rogue is right. MSI installers ROCK. I was installing O2k and I closed down programs in anticipation of a reboot. About that time, it told me it was successfully installed! Woohoo, no reboot needed! I can't wait installs like that propigate further and make my life easier

 

[loosbrew]

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[Midnight Rambler]

<< Doesn't Intel do something with their BIOS to speed up booting times? Our 815EEA2L boards with Lan, 7200 rpm Maxtor, and p3 800s, boot a HELL of a lot faster than my p3 700, abit be6-2 and IBM 7200rpm setup. >>

Yep, Intel boards have the Intel Rapid Boot BIOS feature. Does make a bit of a difference. Not sure if the Intel mobos that OEMs like DELL use have this feature or not, but the retail Intel boxed mobos do. It's just another reason that Intel boxed mobos rock ... now if we could just get Intel to add on the tweaks we want/need.