Discussion Intel ARC Battle Mage owners thread. iGPU counts too.

[ToTTenTranz]

and for some reason, it doesn't show the release date anymore.

What do you mean? It says on the top left.

 

[DigDog]

What do you mean? It says on the top left.


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.. it appears i have gone completely blind.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Pro B50 went straight to number one best seller and sold out pronto at $350 - https://www.newegg.com/intel-arc-pro-b50-16gb-workstation-sff-graphics-card/p/N82E16814883007

Prime took a quick look at gaming but I don't like his paring it with a 8700G

Spoiler

 

[igor_kavinski]

Such a cute little card!

 

[511]

It's 70W xDd

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Pro B50 went straight to number one best seller and sold out pronto at $350 - https://www.newegg.com/intel-arc-pro-b50-16gb-workstation-sff-graphics-card/p/N82E16814883007

Prime took a quick look at gaming but I don't like his paring it with a 8700G

Spoiler

Intel probably had low volume for these which is why it sold out quickly, but as the cheapest 16GB GPU with decent XMX units being able to do INT8 170TOPs at 70W, chances are many hobbyists and businesses are picking them up (and possibly resell with integration service) to run LLM agents.

 

[511]

It can do SR-IOV and it's not breaking the bank at that price for anyone including Intel

 

[ToTTenTranz]

It can do SR-IOV and it's not breaking the bank at that price for anyone including Intel

This is clearly an edge device, though. I don't think it makes that much sense to split this 16GB 10TFLOPs GPU into two or more virtualized GPUs.
The B60 with 24GB does make more sense for that, though. Even more so with an elusive G31-based B70 / B80 with 32GB VRAM.

 

[511]

This is clearly an edge device, though. I don't think it makes that much sense to split this 16GB 10TFLOPs GPU into two or more virtualized GPUs.

You can still do two 4 2.5 TFLOPs for Cheap with 4GB Vram

 

[ToTTenTranz]

You can still do two 4 2.5 TFLOPs for Cheap with 4GB Vram

What for, though? That's mid-range iGPU territory.

 

[igor_kavinski]

What for, though? That's mid-range iGPU territory.

Something to keep under 10 year old kids busy!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Dawid is truly the eternal n00b. His conclusion after watching Aussie Steve's ARC CPU overhead update and testing some games is his usual silliness "Slightly less full of crap. But in a full of crap sort of way.".

ARC team has been optimising on a game by game basis since the early days of A series release. Perhaps a lil' bit like APO for the CPUs?

 

[511]

Dawid is truly the eternal n00b. His conclusion after watching Aussie Steve's ARC CPU overhead update and testing some games is his usual silliness "Slightly less full of crap. But in a full of crap sort of way.".

ARC team has been optimising on a game by game basis since the early days of A series release. Perhaps a lil' bit like APO for the CPUs?

Don't AMD/Nvidia optimize on a per game basis as well ?

 

[gdansk]

Don't AMD/Nvidia optimize on a per game basis as well ?

Usually, it's to fix questionable shaders, sometimes tool-generated by artists. Mostly it isn't necessary for either of them to make per game optimizations so that a 192-bit part performs like a 128-bit one.

 

[511]

I doubt every Game developer optimizes for Intel. So Intel may have to fix stuff in driver or maybe do Game Developer's work for Intel.

 

[DigDog]

yet again more new drivers, 23/October

Intel® Arc™ B580 Graphics Downloads, Drivers and Software | Intel

Intel® Arc™ B580 Graphics - Download supporting resources inclusive drivers, software, bios, and firmware updates.

www.intel.com

 

[DigDog]

 

[Hans Gruber]

I was watching Battlefield 6 in game performance with the B580. The power consumption is in 4060 territory between 90-115w (1080P/1440P) in game. Playing in 4K the power consumption hit 110-125w. The 9060xt 16GB is a very good mid range card with power consumption in the 160-180w range in BF6. If the 9060XT 16GB was even $300, I would probably get one. If the B580 hits anywhere close to $200 during Black Friday, I would be in. Intel is giving away BF6 again as of Nov. 1st.

I tend to watch power consumption in game. I know review sites talk about efficiency but they never pick a handful of games and measure real world power consumption while just gaming. As just a reference the 5070 is 215-235w in BF6 @1440p/4K. It drops down to 190w @1080P. The 9070XT runs 270-330w in BF6.

 

[DigDog]

Intel is giving away BF6 again as of Nov. 1st.

isn't that $80 ?

obviously, this only applies if you're into that sort of pay-monthly stuff, which i'm not.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Cool project build using 11th gen mini-ITX in a tiny case with a B50 and A310 for lossless scaling FG. Works surprisingly well.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Iceberg's latest is the B570 v 1080tie. TLDW = B570 is the easy pick for modern gaming.

 

[Thunder 57]

Iceberg's latest is the B570 v 1080tie. TLDW = B570 is the easy pick for modern gaming.

I've read their drivers have improved quite a bit. How are they for older games though like DX9? Any improvment there? Or even Half Life 1 with OpenGL?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Blue is hit or miss for retro gaming. Better choosing red or green for that.

 

[Thunder 57]

Makes sense they would focus on that. Hopefully the keep making new dGPU's though. No new news since B570/580 right? I think there is speculation about a B7xx?

 

[Tup3x]

Blue is hit or miss for retro gaming. Better choosing red or green for that.

For retro gaming I'd always use dgVoodo2 wrapper anyway and probably avoid red team.