Intel 45nm Wolfdale E8000 Series CPU coming out

[Replay]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

From that same Xbit article, the E2160 shines when overclocked.,
beating the stock Core 2 Extreme X6800 in almost every benchmark (3.4 Ghz vs. 2.93 Ghz).

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Do some googling 4.0 has already been done on the E8400, so if they hold up to that then its a chip to consider for sure.

 

[21stHermit]

Their's a recent thread on AT for an E8500 at 5.5GHz. Only they used LN2, not exactly practical. I have tons of snow outside, might as well use that.

 

[GundamF91]

That's true that E2xxx can be overclocked, but the E4xxx overclocks just as well, and when you're clock for clock, 1mb vs. 2mb will lose by about 7-10%.

 

[SorryImLate]

Does any one know where pricing will be on the 6 series once the 8 series comes out

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Replay
From that same Xbit article, the E2160 shines when overclocked.,
beating the stock Core 2 Extreme X6800 in almost every benchmark (3.4 Ghz vs. 2.93 Ghz).

Needing 500 extra Mhz just to ~equal a 4MB cache chip isn't exactly what I'd call "a great deal", especially when the 2MB cache models are only 150-200 Mhz behind the 4MB models, at the same clockspeed. Which would you rather have, a 3.2 Ghz E21x0, or a 3.2+ Ghz E4x00? That's definitely a $35-40 I wouldn't have any problem spending, considering the added performance, and obviously assuming I could actually afford the extra money, which the vast majority of people registered on AT can.

Originally posted by: angry hampster
While that's true, overclocking can do a LOT of good. A lot of MHz + a little cache = medium MHz + higher cache

Yeah, but the only reason I even brought up the subject was because Avalon has already more or less maxed out his E2140. If he were running it at 1.6 Ghz, I would have just recommended that he see how fast he could get it to run, then see if it was fast enough for him.

 

[Avalon]

It's never fast enough

 

[Lazark]

Im sorry by the ignorance , but the gigabyte DS3L can handle this processor and the O/C??
thanks

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Needing 500 extra Mhz just to ~equal a 4MB cache chip isn't exactly what I'd call "a great deal", especially when the 2MB cache models are only 150-200 Mhz behind the 4MB models, at the same clockspeed. Which would you rather have, a 3.2 Ghz E21x0, or a 3.2+ Ghz E4x00? That's definitely a $35-40 I wouldn't have any problem spending, considering the added performance, and obviously assuming I could actually afford the extra money, which the vast majority of people registered on AT can.

The price difference is actually quite a bit more, on the order of $70. ($60 E2140, versus $130 E4500). That's paying more than 2X the cost of the CPU, for a miniscule (200Mhz worth at best) difference in performance. Would you pay $70 for 200Mhz? I certainly wouldn't.

 

[XBoxLPU]

So when will current P35 motherboards release bios updates to support the .5 multipliers?

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
So when will current P35 motherboards release bios updates to support the .5 multipliers?

According to the guy in this thread they already do.


http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2139446&enterthread=y

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
That's true that E2xxx can be overclocked, but the E4xxx overclocks just as well, and when you're clock for clock, 1mb vs. 2mb will lose by about 7-10%.

See the 4 series cost more than 10% more though, at a time when 10% more is not useful.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
The price difference is actually quite a bit more, on the order of $70. ($60 E2140, versus $130 E4500). That's paying more than 2X the cost of the CPU, for a miniscule (200Mhz worth at best) difference in performance. Would you pay $70 for 200Mhz? I certainly wouldn't.

Subtracting from the price of one, then adding to the cost of the other? Why would someone do that, unless they were trying to justify something?

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
See the 4 series cost more than 10% more though, at a time when 10% more is not useful.

That would all depend on how fast your video card happens to be. If you own an 8800GT, 3870 or faster, you'll definitely notice the difference.

 

[Bateluer]

We need good, solid information on motherboard support for Intel's 45nm chips.

 

[Netopia]

It's funny that games are so strangled by L2 cache (or not enough of it) these days. I remember when the original Celeron came out, with NO L2 CACHE and it was a gamers dream simply because it overclocked like a monster. Sucked at desktop apps, but in those days games didn't seem to use much in the way of cache.

Joe

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
We need good, solid information on motherboard support for Intel's 45nm chips.

AT's reviews have you covered. Motherboard Compatibility for Wolfdale and Yorkfield Processors

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
The price difference is actually quite a bit more, on the order of $70. ($60 E2140, versus $130 E4500). That's paying more than 2X the cost of the CPU, for a miniscule (200Mhz worth at best) difference in performance. Would you pay $70 for 200Mhz? I certainly wouldn't.

Subtracting from the price of one, then adding to the cost of the other? Why would someone do that, unless they were trying to justify something?

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
See the 4 series cost more than 10% more though, at a time when 10% more is not useful.

That would all depend on how fast your video card happens to be. If you own an 8800GT, 3870 or faster, you'll definitely notice the difference.

I was just going by the lowest known street prices for those chips at the time that I made that post. Everyone knows about the E2140s available at Microcenter for $60, or at least they should. It's good that NewEgg dropped the price of the E4500 by $5, I didn't know that at the time.
I still stand by my statement though, even with a price adjustment.

In fact, at 1920x1200, you will still most likely be GPU-limited, even with an 8800GT.

 

[Munky]

nm

 

[ExterM1nat3r]

hello...
I'm from Malaysia...
i would like to bulk order E8200 and E8400 and ship it here...
how much will it cost??
any idea?
please PM me asap.
Thanks.

 

[The-Noid]

E8400 offers the best price/performance ratio I have seen in my lifetime.

 

[v8envy]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
E8400 offers the best price/performance ratio I have seen in my lifetime.

Which means it'll be price gouged hard. I expect the prices newegged up to well north of $210 for the first month or two following release. Even Intel won't be able to make enough of them to meet demand caused by itching upgraders + Phenom flop + no 45nm quads.

 

[Tempered81]

buy 1 right now for 195, get it feb 5.

http://www.pcsuperstore.com/pr...0PJ0806M.html/froogle/

voxxy has a 45nm quad in his sig. Roxor!