Intel 45nm Wolfdale E8000 Series CPU coming out

[Cheex]

Here is the link:
Courtesy of Expreview.com

 

[Spook]

No loading for me

 

[d3lt4]

WOW. I can't wait. How much is the estimated retail for the e8200? I bet it clocks just as well as the others, and with 6mb of cache you can't go wrong.

 

[Avalon]

E8200 = $163, E8400 = $183 in bulk quantities. Street price probably $10 higher. You can actually find em listed on some stores if you froogle the chips, but they're just pre-orders for now. I honestly can't wait to upgrade my E2140 @ 2.9 to a nice E8400. Looking to take one to 4Ghz. Should be a huge difference for me, and finally let my new 3850 stretch its legs out in games.

 

[soccerballtux]

>.< 3850 is not going to be bottlenecked by 2.9Ghz imo. 8800gt perhaps, but not a 3850.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: soccerballtux
>.< 3850 is not going to be bottlenecked by 2.9Ghz imo. 8800gt perhaps, but not a 3850.

It is, because I've benched it. I'm not running my games at 1920x1080. Most of my games resulted in a <10% increase in performance with the new card compared to my old X1950pro, while others (namely just Crysis and UT3) increased by the expected 40%. I'm CPU bound.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

 

[daveybrat]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

Yeah, it's not just the Megahertz, it's that 1MB of cache on the budget cpu's as opposed to those using the 2 and 4MB cache Core2 cpu's.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

Very interesting point.

I actually overlooked that set of data. Thanks.

:thumbsup:

 

[Riverhound777]

Yay I can't wait. I have a pre-order in at Antares for the 8400 for $210. Little above normal but If I get it on time I don't care.

 

[BLHealthy4life]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

I agree.

Anandtech did a recent article (forget the topic), however, in this article it was shown that games are GPU bound and not CPU bound at speeds in excess of 2.66Ghz with C2Ds..These C2D were the higher end CPUs with more cache.

So, you are most likely cache bound ATM.

edit: typos

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm CPU bound.

Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

The cache IS part of the CPU
Thus I consider myself CPU bound. Technically you're right though. I stand to gain up to 15-20% in performance at CPU limited resolutions just by going to 4MB of cache. However, I still have lots of room for extra performance by jumping an extra Ghz, since I mainly game at 1280x960. The additional 2MB of cache of the E8xxx series won't hurt either.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

I've always wondered why games require lots of cache. What is unique about games vs say encoding?

Thanks

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Too bad we all know AMD and ATI are the way to go over Intel and Nvidia.

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Too bad we all know AMD and ATI are the way to go over Intel and Nvidia.

Bountiful sarcasm spreads across the distant sky.....

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Too bad we all know AMD and ATI are the way to go over Intel and Nvidia.

Bountiful sarcasm spreads across the distant sky.....

OMG is that a UFO?

 

[Cheex]

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Too bad we all know AMD and ATI are the way to go over Intel and Nvidia.

Bountiful sarcasm spreads across the distant sky.....

OMG is that a UFO?

No.

It should be obvious anyway that you were being sarcastic.

 

[Cheex]

Here are the E8xxx CPUs listed with their specs and MSRP:
Courtesy of Wikipedia

 

[SorryImLate]

Are the C2D 6550 or 6750 going to come down in price when the 8XXX series comes out because the 8200 is cheaper then the 6750.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp

Originally posted by: Cheex

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
Too bad we all know AMD and ATI are the way to go over Intel and Nvidia.

Bountiful sarcasm spreads across the distant sky.....

OMG is that a UFO?

No.

It should be obvious anyway that you were being sarcastic.

Yes it should be, but sometimes these boards suprise even me heh.

 

[Zenoth]

I can't wait to get my hands on a E8400. I'll probably over-clock it to at least 3.6Ghz, if not more, but that'll depend on how the default cooling solution will fare. I recently went back to my "old" setup in my signature, because I was temporarily testing a E6600 setup, and already with that E6600 I could set a major difference in most of my games, and that was at default frequency. So I can't imagine how much of a difference it'll make by going from an X2 4400+ to a E8400 at 3.6Ghz+.

My GA-X38-DQ6 is eagerly waiting, and my Crucial PC2-8500 too.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I can't wait to get my hands on a E8400. I'll probably over-clock it to at least 3.6Ghz

That's only 20%, hardly worth the effort/time in my mind. Its not like the 100% OC we hear from the E2xxx crowd.

 

[Zenoth]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: Zenoth
I can't wait to get my hands on a E8400. I'll probably over-clock it to at least 3.6Ghz

That's only 20%, hardly worth the effort/time in my mind. Its not like the 100% OC we hear from the E2xxx crowd.

As I said my OC will directly depend on how the stock cooling performs.

I'll go as high as I possibly can on air for stable 24/7 operations without risking anything with over-volting.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I agree, 9x450=4050 should be very doable on these, and according to anandtechs experiences overclocking 45nm high end cooling may not be required.

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: daveybrat

Originally posted by: myocardia


Actually, you're probably more cache-bound than CPU-bound. That's why I keep telling gamers not to buy an E2160/2180, when E4500's aren't much more expensive.

Yeah, it's not just the Megahertz, it's that 1MB of cache on the budget cpu's as opposed to those using the 2 and 4MB cache Core2 cpu's.

While that's true, overclocking can do a LOT of good. A lot of MHz + a little cache = medium MHz + higher cache

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=653&p=4

I'm in the market for a new CPU and have decided to switch over to intel. Still not sure if I want a 2160 or if I want to spring for a 4500.