Intel 45nm OC Result Thread (Wolfdale E8400/E8500/E3110)

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Avalon

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Well, I had thought I had 1.31V stable at 3.9Ghz, but it got an error in Orthos after a few hours priming, so I bumped the voltage up by one notch, which would have been 1.315, and my system just completely stopped booting. Usually the Gigabyte BIOS recovers from a bad setting, but not this time. I had to remove the CMOS battery and put it back to get my system back on.

Now I'm wondering what that was all about. I don't think it was the chip, and I know it's not my memory, which is good to 450FSB stock 1.8V... I have a feeling it was my northbridge, which was running at 433FSB at that point without any additional cooling or voltage bumps. Either it was overheating or needed more voltage.
 

jiffylube1024

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q754A553
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 12/27/07
Place and Date of Purchase: 1/29/08 Liata.com (Canadian B&M store)
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Motherboard: ASUS P5B-E
CPU Volt: 1.300V (BIOS) 1.25V idle, 1.22V load
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 9X400 = 3.8 GHz
MCP Volt: default
NB Volt: 1.25V
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Memory: OCZ DDR2 PC6400 Platinum (800 MHz)
Speed: 420 (840 MHz DDR)
Volt: 2.05V
Timing(x/x/x/x): 5/5/5/12
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HSF: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
Lapped: no
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX2

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PSU is an Enermax Liberty 500W.

I initially popped in the CPU and ran it the CPU voltage at "Auto." A word to the wise: avoid "Auto" like the plague on P5B boards, especially on 45nm CPU's. It was running the CPU at 1.288V at stock 3 GHz with the Auto setting; when I set clockspeed to 3.6 GHz by upping the FSB to 400, Voltage read as 1.55V in Windows!!! Setting voltage to 1.300V in BIOS got Vcore down to a reasonable ~1.25V idle, 1.22V load.

Temperatures are as follows:

3 GHz (333X9)
idle: 1.288Vcore 38C idle
load: 1.26Vcore 46C (peak temp)

3.8 GHz (400X9)
idle: 1.26Vcore 39C
load: 1.22Vcore 57C (peak temp)


^ these readings are with ASUS PC Probe, which concurs with the BIOS readings. Load = double Prime95, 100% CPU usage.

That is not a typo on the voltages.
I'm sure it can go higher but I'm comfy at 3.8 for now. When I have more time I'll try pushing it into the 4 GHz range.
 

Xvys

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q740A555T
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 12/20/07
Place and Date of Purchase: 1/19/08 A-Power, Richmond
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Motherboard: ASUS P5K-Deluxe
CPU Volt: 1.365V (BIOS) 1.34V idle, 1.32V load
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 9X445 = 4.005 GHz
MCP Volt: default
NB Volt: 1.25V
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Memory: 2G Crucial 10th Anniversary DDR2-5300 (Handpicked D9GMH)
Speed: 445 MHz (890 MHz DDR-2)
Volt: 2.10V
Timing: 4/4/4/12
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HSF: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
Lapped: no
Thermal Compound: Sunbeam Tuniq T-2
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PSU is an Fortron FX-600-E

The above setup is Prime95 stable. I have done a SP1M of 10.2 sec @ 4.6 GHz (512 x 9) @ 1.56v., but not P95 stable for more than 2 min.
 

Apocalypse23

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So I tried pushing the chip further, went to 4200mhz stable (didn't check prime long enough) , @ 9 x 467 = 4203Mhz , ram was @ 5-5-5-12 @ 1.9V or so , got it stable @ 1.400 cpu Volts however. Temperatures went up for core loads to 64-67C, idle cores were at 51 - 49C , CPU temp was 31C idle and 52C load. Then tried hitting 489 x 9 @ 5-5-5-12, cpu voltage @ 1.46 V and dram @ 2.2V almost went to load windows when it froze, so I probably need to loosen my timings to 5-5-5-15 perhaps? anyways i tried to hit 489x9 but all thise extra chip voltage requirement makes this whole process pointless to me as a few extra mhz aren't worth it with all that hassle, so i am sticking happily to my 4 ghz 9x445 and 5-5-5-12 ram timings.

PS - I reached 4350 MHz but it was very unstable, prime failed as soon as i started it. I think i may have reached my chip's limit, around 4350 - 4400 mhz so i am reverting back to 4000.

PS - got stable to 4200mhz.

pics: (motherboard or e8400 voltage reporting issue, windows vcore applications report temps off by .10C, actual vcore are in the bios as reported, ignore cpu-z vcore reading)

4.2ghz stable:9x467 @ 1.4 V CPU
http://aycu13.webshots.com/ima...805687325129611_rs.jpg

http://img239.imageshack.us/im...99/42ghzidlefl8.th.jpg

http://aycu36.webshots.com/ima...954825847913440_rs.jpg

4.35 ghz unstable:9x483 @1.45 - 1.46V

http://aycu22.webshots.com/ima...959240284082017_rs.jpg

http://aycu15.webshots.com/ima...938696604145036_rs.jpg

http://aycu05.webshots.com/ima...935912256598990_rs.jpg
 

dingetje

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why isn't the E8200 included in the topic title? ;)
i am very curious to see if the e8200 oc's just as well as e8400 and e8500.
 

Tempered81

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you have to be added as a collaborative user, its pretty neat because each persons cursor & data is highlighted as we enter on that page. me and some guys from XS input the data last night. there was like 6 people simultaneously changing shit. lol

We have to add your username on there, then you can edit stuff.
 

bigpow

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Mine has been running for a few days now;

CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q746A381
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 01/04/08
Place and Date of Purchase: Compsource 01/18/2008
1.225V max
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Motherboard: Abit IP35-E (BIOS #15)
CPU Volt: 1.3V (CPU-Z) 1.385V (BIOS setting)
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 9x445=4005MHz
MCP Volt: (auto)
NB Volt: (auto)
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Memory: OCZ DDR2-800 Gold XTC 2x1GB
Speed: 890MHz
Volt: 2.20V
Timing(x/x/x/x): 5/5/5/15 (2T)
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HSF: Scythe Ninja Plus + Yate Loon 120mm (12V)
Lapped: no
Thermal Compound: AS5

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=306655

Vdroop 0.024 V

Temp:
CPU Core 0 35C (idle) 55C (load)
CPU Core 1 42C (idle) 57C (load)
 

Avalon

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bigpow, is that 1.3V in BIOS, or 1.3V reported? (Via CPU-Z, Speedfan, etc)
 

bigpow

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Reported via CPU-Z.

I got all my notes on the other computer, I'll update my stats with more info. (FPO#, Vdroop, temps, etc)
 

culex

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Putting in bare minimals for now, I'm testing at the moment.

CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q746A349
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 1/04/08
Place and Date of Purchase: Antares digital 1/08
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Motherboard: ABIT IP35-Pro
CPU Volt: 1.4 in BIOS, CPUZ Reporting 1.29 - 1.31 under Orthos
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 440x9 = 3960
MCP Volt:
NB Volt: 1.55
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Memory: Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) TwinX PC6400 DHX
Speed: 1:1, 440
Volt: 1.95
Timing(x/x/x/x): 5-5-5-5-18 2T
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HSF: Ultima 90
Lapped: NO
Thermal Compound: MX-2

I'm not sure which voltage report to really trust. I've set 1.4 cpu volt on the BIOS but CPUZ and the BIOS monitor are reporting a bit low. This config here will be the highest I will go for now, I just want to find it stable near 4ghz.
 

imported_wired247

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: did not write it down :frown:
S-Spec:
Pack Date:
Place and Date of Purchase: Antares Digital 1/18
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Motherboard: ASUS P5E
CPU Volt: 1.288 V idle
(according to CPUz Shows higher on mobo than CPUz)

FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 400x9=3.6
MCP Volt: ??
NB Volt: Stock + 1 bump
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Memory: Corsair 2x2GB DDR2-800
Speed: DDR2-800 (1:1)
Volt: 1.9V --> shows as 2.05V on ASUS AIsuite ??
Timing(x/x/x/x): 5-5-5-18 2T ... slow and cheap :)
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HSF: Stock
Lapped: Negative
Thermal Compound: AS5


Edit: now 20h stable
All tested at 100% stable over 20h prime95/multicore/smallFFT
Speedstep enabled

Due to limitations of RAM, and this MOBO does not like DDR2-1066 very much, I am probably not going to OC much higher for quite some time!

Temps: about 32C idle, about 63C full load
speedstep idle (x6 multiplier): 27C
 

Dadofamunky

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Originally posted by: Avalon
Well, I had thought I had 1.31V stable at 3.9Ghz, but it got an error in Orthos after a few hours priming, so I bumped the voltage up by one notch, which would have been 1.315, and my system just completely stopped booting. Usually the Gigabyte BIOS recovers from a bad setting, but not this time. I had to remove the CMOS battery and put it back to get my system back on.

Now I'm wondering what that was all about. I don't think it was the chip, and I know it's not my memory, which is good to 450FSB stock 1.8V... I have a feeling it was my northbridge, which was running at 433FSB at that point without any additional cooling or voltage bumps. Either it was overheating or needed more voltage.

I found my system wouldn't get stable until I bumped the NB a notch. I'm not running 45nm but the same principle probably applies.
 

Jhatfie

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q746A519
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 1/11/08
Place and Date of Purchase: Mwave on 1/21/08
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Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo2-FR
CPU Volt: 1.33
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 450
MCP Volt: 1.25
NB Volt: 1.4
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Memory: Gskill HK DDR800
Speed: 900Mhz (1:1)
Volt: 2.1
Timing(4-4-4-10):
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HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212
Lapped: No
Thermal Compound: AS5

24/7 Setting Above at 4.05Ghz. Orthos and OCCT stable. Temps Max at 49-50C via coretemp after 8+ hours of stress testing.

4.2Ghz appears to be pretty stable with short sub 2 hour runs of Orthos/OCCT at 467x9 or 525x8, but needs 1.425v and temps Shoot up 10c to 61C load. 467 FSB appears to perform better ever so slightly in superPi, maybe due to tigher memory timings?
 

Tempered81

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Originally posted by: Jhatfie

24/7 Setting Above at 4.05Ghz. Orthos and OCCT stable. Temps Max at 50-51C via coretemp after 8+ hours of stress testing.

4.2Ghz appears to be pretty stable with short sub 2 hour runs of Orthos/OCCT at 467x9 or 525x8, but needs 1.425v and temps Shoot up 10c to 61C load. 467 FSB appears to perform better ever so slightly in superPi, maybe due to tigher memory timings?

yes, superpi would take advantage of tighter timings. I can't believe you can get that 4-4-4-10 pc26400 to run at 525mhz! That's incredible! good job on the orthos stable 4200mhz.

 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: Jhatfie
CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q746A519
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 1/11/08
Place and Date of Purchase: Mwave on 1/21/08
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Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo2-FR
CPU Volt: 1.33
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 450
MCP Volt: 1.25
NB Volt: 1.4
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Memory: Gskill HK DDR800
Speed: 900Mhz (1:1)
Volt: 2.1
Timing(4-4-4-10):
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
HSF: CoolerMaster Hyper 212
Lapped: No
Thermal Compound: AS5

24/7 Setting Above at 4.05Ghz. Orthos and OCCT stable. Temps Max at 49-50C via coretemp after 8+ hours of stress testing.

4.2Ghz appears to be pretty stable with short sub 2 hour runs of Orthos/OCCT at 467x9 or 525x8, but needs 1.425v and temps Shoot up 10c to 61C load. 467 FSB appears to perform better ever so slightly in superPi, maybe due to tigher memory timings?

I'm wondering why your Coretemp loads are reporting so low compared to everyone else, but nice OC.
 

Jhatfie

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Originally posted by: jaredpace
yes, superpi would take advantage of tighter timings. I can't believe you can get that 4-4-4-10 pc26400 to run at 525mhz! That's incredible! good job on the orthos stable 4200mhz.

The 4-4-4 timings are actually at the 467 FSB, I need to loosen them to 5-5-5 to run the 525FSB, the end result is the same clock speed however of 4.2Ghz.

Originally posted by: Avalon
I'm wondering why your Coretemp loads are reporting so low compared to everyone else, but nice OC.

Interesting thing is the cpu temp reported by my MSI Dual Core center is about 5-8c higher than what coretemp reports.
 

aussiestilgar

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q45axxx
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date:
Place and Date of Purchase: Mwave
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Motherboard: Gigabyte DS3R Rev 2.1
CPU Volt: 1.318 in BIOS
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 450x9
MCP Volt: stock
NB Volt: stock
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Memory: 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers DDR2-800 C4
Speed: DDR2-900
Volt: 2.2
Timing: 4/4/4/12
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HSF: Zerotherm Nirvana 120
Lapped: No
Thermal Compound: Tuniq TX-2

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Stability Testing Program: Prime95
Stability Testing Time: Small FFT 8 hours

My temp readings are whacky, even after reseating twice. I had ~40 idle ~60 load @ stock, and they didn't change when I OC'd to 3.6, 3.8, 3.9 :confused:
At 4.05 the temps read ~50 idle ~65 load after priming. Needed a lot more volts to go higher than 4.1.
 

Spook

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CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q745A551
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 12/27/07
Place and Date of Purchase: Mwave, Monday, 21 Jan
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Motherboard: P5E
CPU Volt: 1.256v (set at 1.286, but with droop)
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 9x445
MCP Volt: default
NB Volt: 1.6v
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Memory: 4x1Gb Crucial DDR2-800 Ballistic
Speed: 445Mhz 1:1
Volt: 2.26
Timing(x/x/x/x): 5 5 5 15 (for now)
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HSF: ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler
Lapped: no
Thermal Compound: AS5

So far I'm still running Orthos... but I'm up to 18hrs.. Temps seem high, at about 66c in Orthos, but like it has been pointed out, the temps seem to be flawed right now. I'll have to look into lapping this chip, and I'm thinking of another HS as well. But it is very stable at this 4Ghz level.

Edit 1: Ok, I screwed up my P5E, and bought a IP35-Pro(Abit).... This one is worse than my P5E.... I'm going to buy another P5E, and lose the Crucial Ram. Apparently neither chipset, the p35, or x38 likes the Crucial ram.... And I've seen the instability that ensues.
 

Tempered81

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I started Priming at 4.5ghz on air... I had to boot into windows at 465 x 9 and use setfsb to bump it up to 500mhz once in windows. It crashed after 15 minutes, I'm gonna give it some more Vcore and MCH. 1.54 vcore in bios, 6 9 9 25 ddr @ 1000mhz 2.3volts cpuz 1.46v actual

heres some pics so far... I hope I can get 8hrs so Aigomorla can see this:

http://picasaweb.google.com/jaredpace/45ghzPrimingOnAir
 

Apocalypse23

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UPDATED: Installed 1004 BIOS with the following settings.

CPU Name: E8400
FPO/BATCH #: Q74A553
S-Spec: SLAPL
Pack Date: 12/27/07
Place and Date of Purchase: Local PC Store, BC
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Motherboard: Asus P5K-e wifi
CPU Volt: 1.3250 V --- CPU-Z reporting idle @ 1.296V
FSBxMultiplier=Frequency: 445x9
MCP Volt: auto
NB Volt: auto
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Memory: Patriot 4GB 2X2DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 @ 5-5-5-12 OC
Speed: 445 (1:1)
Volt: 1.85
Timing(x/x/x/x):5-5-5-12
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HSF: OCZ vandetta
Lapped: NO
Thermal Compound: Stock compound from OCZ Vandetta package
 

AdamK47

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Still running at 4050MHz with 450MHz bus and 525MHz memory at 5-4-4-12 timings. It's been rock solid stable the whole week. I've been running dual Prime95 and various 3D games/apps on and off and everything has ran fine.
 

Spook

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Updated min above

Edit 1: Ok, I screwed up my P5E, and bought a IP35-Pro(Abit).... This one is worse than my P5E.... I'm going to buy another P5E, and lose the Crucial Ram. Apparently neither chipset, the p35, or x38 likes the Crucial ram.... And I've seen the instability that ensues.