... why don't employers reduce hours? Unemployment is 5%? I don't think anyone would mind working 5% less in exchange for full employment.
Instead of laying off people...
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It won't help to work 5% less because most companies still pay the same amount for benefits. You would have to cut workers pay by around 15-20% before you would see a 5% cost reduction per worker.
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you are assuming that all unemployed people WANT TO work. You are also assuming that all unemployed people share the same skill set. There are LOTS of unemployed people who have little to no skills and would be unable to do a lot of jobs.
also employees cost companies a lot of money. Having 100 95% time workers would cost a company a lot more than having 95 100% workers.
also employees cost companies a lot of money. Having 100 95% time workers would cost a company a lot more than having 95 100% workers.
Americans have created a dog eat dog world that's turned everybody into dogs. Dogs worry about their share, not the welfare of the next guy. Any softness could be fatal. Unemploynent can be ended overnight by executing people who aren't working.
Wages are inflexible downwards. Take a look at unions. They fight if they don't get the wage increase they want, let alone a raise reduction. People simply don't want to accept a drop in their income. Also, as everyone else has stated, employees are more than simply a paycheck.
Okay I see now the other costs.
People who don't want to work aren't counted as unemployed though.
The official 5% unemployment rate does not include people that don't want to work. They are considered out of the work force. The only people that are counted in offical government data are those people actively looking for a job, those that are sending out resumes, going to interviews, etc.
Huh? Do the frenchies still go to work at all?
Last I heard they were fighting for something like a 4 day work week and overtime over six hours in one day.
There will always be some level of unemployment. It's not a bad thing, it helps create some fluidity in the workforce and provides a decent selection pool for employers to match their needs. 5% is actually on the low side of normal. Some people are moving. Some people have high paying itenerant work where they only need to work for 6 months a year. Some people have insufficient skills. There are lots of reasons for unemployment that aren't necessarily bad.
Those layoff is also a mean for management to toss out the bad apples. Sometimes, it works wonder on efficiency.
I agree, I say if you're an employer and you need to cut costs lay off your 5-10% of lazy @ss employees who are just "along for the ride". There is no point in making your high-productivity employees pay to keep the low-productivity employee's jobs.
-Spy
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I agree, bad economic times are a great way to lay off the worthless scum. Anybody with a job knows that.
Mwilding:
99.99999999999999% of the population could not care less what the unemployment rate is as long as they have a job.
And full employment is impossible. The world has a large supply of lazy people....
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Actually Mw, I've always looked at people with jobs as those from inferior blood lines who haven't got the cash to pass to their kids so they don't have to work.
99.99999999999999% of the population could not care less what the unemployment rate is as long as they have a job.
And full employment is impossible. The world has a large supply of lazy people....
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Actually Mw, I've always looked at people with jobs as those from inferior blood lines who haven't got the cash to pass to their kids so they don't have to work.
Originally posted by: tm37
HAHAHAHA That is the funniest thing I have ever read
why is that funny?
Families still care. In the olden days and still today if a family member experiences economic turbulence another member helps out. And of course charites were plentiful then.
Today you hold out your hand to the government. Now I'm not against this if it's reasonable and up to the States but the Olden Wayes brings people together and, I think, more effectively get the jobless out of depression/worry and back on track. Think Little House on the Prairie. If Albert was in dire straights Charles Ingals was always there and the ending was happy!
But healthy nuclear families and private charities are ever shrinking. Promoting either ones does not get you elected.
I think 4% unemployment is the best you can really hope for, so we're not doing that bad overall. Full employment is listed as 96%, correct? You can never have 100% employment becuase there will always be people switching jobs, on leave, etc etc. Not much of a point to this thread, but you can never really have 100% employment.
Now you've touched onto another topic alltogether, I think community support is better because people feel responsible for the money or food or whatever that they take from others. Now the government just steals from me and the rest of you who work and give it to the lazy who cant manage to take care of themselves. Damn socialists :|
The whole tax system has just become a massive legalized system to steal from those who provide for themselves.
-Spy
Jelly, you mention a time when people cared in a time when you can clearly see they do not. Then you tell me that the politicians are uninterested too. Are you trying to make me mad or do you have another intention? I was merely trying to tell those who don't care because they have jobs that there are those of us out there who could care less if they become unimployed, because we got ours through superior genetics. People who work are inferior, not much better then their lazy kin. You see that don't you?
I was merely trying to tell those who don't care because they have jobs that there are those of us out there who could care less if they become unimployed, because we got ours through superior genetics. People who work are inferior, not much better then their lazy kin. You see that don't you?Originally posted by: tm37
HAHAHAHA That is the funniest thing I have ever read
Glad to brighten your day, I guess. Now, care to tell everyone what's so funny, I want to know my great joke dammit.
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