Inside Russia's Nuclear-powered Typhoon-class Submarine

[adlep]

I am not willing to get into a pissing contest with you but my experience says differently. With my 2.5 years on a Los Angeles fast attack, you certainly have more time and may even be a sonar operator. My time standing the Auxiliaryman of the Watch got me around the whole ship, so when things were happening I was one of the few enlisted watchstanders able to see how the whole ship was reacting to the situation.

I signed some legal form that mentioned something about not talking about things and mentioned 10 years about something. I do not remember whether that was 10 years in jail or 10 years until I could talk about what happened, and they did not give me a copy of that security form for my own records. So I am leery to discuss more.

I may have seen a Russian sub, may have circled it like a shark while they were having swimcall, and may watched the team in the control room attempt to track one or more subs. Maybe the older Russian subs made a lot of noise but my ship was not able to reliably keep track of the subs we may have followed.

It may have taken underwater microphones, one or more civilian surface ships with a towed sonar array several miles long, and one or more surface combatant ships from navies belonging to more than one country to communicate with us and even then our tracking was unreliable. Those opposing subs would get lost. Nobody could find them for several hours at a time until half a day later they somehow got behind us.

Russian engineers are just as good, if not better, than American engineers. They place a higher value on math and science education and more prestige is provided the profession. Their people are good. We just have more money.

Their subs are very capable at what they do, and they were better than my boat.



Thank you for rephrasing, it is appreciated.
From what I remember, the fresh milk was finished after a week and the fresh vegetables were gone after the second week. We would be eating canned food after a month at sea.

I never saw any MRE's onboard. The food was good but not excellent.

For those without experience, we would pack as much food as we could possibly pack when we went underway. When going on a deployment, we would pack one gallon cans of food two levels high in the birthing compartments, the heads, and the showers. We even put food in the back space of the Auxiliary Machinery Room behind the oxygen generator.

Good post !

 

[gevorg]

Russian military philosophy of high simplicity and durability really fools some people into underestimating the sophistication of those weapons.

 

[adlep]

Russian military philosophy of high simplicity and durability really fools some people into underestimating the sophistication of those weapons.

The best example of Soviet/Russina tech that works is their space program. It works very well considering the budget constrains. The ISS for example is essentially a MIR2 with Western enhancements.

 

[Spike]

Thanks!!

 

[pcgeek11]

I am not willing to get into a pissing contest with you but my experience says differently. With my 2.5 years on a Los Angeles fast attack, you certainly have more time and may even be a sonar operator.

I may have seen a Russian sub, may have circled it like a shark while they were having swimcall, and may watched the team in the control room attempt to track one or more subs. Maybe the older Russian subs made a lot of noise but my ship was not able to reliably keep track of the subs we may have followed.

It may have taken underwater microphones, one or more civilian surface ships with a towed sonar array several miles long, and one or more surface combatant ships from navies belonging to more than one country to communicate with us and even then our tracking was unreliable. Those opposing subs would get lost. Nobody could find them for several hours at a time until half a day later they somehow got behind us.


Their subs are very capable at what they do, and they were better than my boat.


From what I remember, the fresh milk was finished after a week and the fresh vegetables were gone after the second week. We would be eating canned food after a month at sea.

I never saw any MRE's onboard. The food was good but not excellent.

For those without experience, we would pack as much food as we could possibly pack when we went underway. When going on a deployment, we would pack one gallon cans of food two levels high in the birthing compartments, the heads, and the showers. We even put food in the back space of the Auxiliary Machinery Room behind the oxygen generator.

Well you obviously haven't seen much in 2.5 years. I'n not trying to start a pissing contest either. But saying they are not loud ( speaking with respect to other submarines ) is laughable. I'n not saying that you don't loose track occasionally though. esp in high traffic areas as in the med. The quietest boats in the world are the newer diesel/electric boats.

I May have done a lot of things also...

If they were better than your boat you must have had a really poorly trained crew. Our newer boats are even better.

We would have milk for about three weeks, the eggs would sometimes last a month and 1/2. We always carried lots of fresh potatoes cabbage carrots onions etc hanging in net bags on the trolley rails. Every boat I was on had excellent cooks. I am sorry you didn't have a good crew or cooks during your 2.5 years. You really missed out on a lot.