Inside Russia's Nuclear-powered Typhoon-class Submarine

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Brovane

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they get wine, chocolate, and tvs in their submarines? sounds like 5 star accomidations compared to what ive seen of us subs...

What US subs have you been looking at? US Subs have some of the best food in the navy. The key difference is that all US navy ships are dry so there is no alcohol. There are also TV's on the US subs.
 

LegendKiller

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What US subs have you been looking at? US Subs have some of the best food in the navy. The key difference is that all US navy ships are dry so there is no alcohol. There are also TV's on the US subs.

I'm not quite sure what he's talking about either. Chocolate? Does he really think that only Russian subs get chocolate? TV? Really?
 

HybridSquirrel

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What US subs have you been looking at? US Subs have some of the best food in the navy. The key difference is that all US navy ships are dry so there is no alcohol. There are also TV's on the US subs.

when i went to rimpac 2004, we toured a sub (i cant remember the name). and they basically ate MRE's and had to read books for entertainment, they had cd players. certainly not caviar, chocolate, wine and tvs.. i remember because i was on the same tour as that douchebag jay mohr and he was passing out his cds and wondering what the hell me and my family were doing on the same tour as him.


edit: i think it was the uss pennsylvania.....we also toured the uss enterprise with jay mohr -_-
 
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LegendKiller

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when i went to rimpac 2004, we toured a sub (i cant remember the name). and they basically ate MRE's and had to read books for entertainment, they had cd players. certainly not caviar, chocolate, wine and tvs.. i remember because i was on the same tour as that douchebag jay mohr and he was passing out his cds and wondering what the hell me and my family were doing on the same tour as him.


edit: i think it was the uss pennsylvania.....we also toured the uss enterprise with jay mohr -_-

There is no fucking way a submarine crew eats MREs on deployment. That is NOT how a sub deploys and hasn't been that way since WW1. Even then they had meat and rudementary bread and kitchens. Modern submarines have full kitchens, freezers, and refrigerators.

It's amazing to think anybody would have this opinion of US subs. There isn't a navy on the planet that can compete with our subs on technology, crew training, or tactics. Yet, somehow, you'd walk away with the opinion they eat MREs?

Wow.
 

xanis

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Holy shitballs, that is one gigantic submarine. :eek:

Awesome videos, thanks OP.
 

Brovane

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when i went to rimpac 2004, we toured a sub (i cant remember the name). and they basically ate MRE's and had to read books for entertainment, they had cd players. certainly not caviar, chocolate, wine and tvs.. i remember because i was on the same tour as that douchebag jay mohr and he was passing out his cds and wondering what the hell me and my family were doing on the same tour as him.


edit: i think it was the uss pennsylvania.....we also toured the uss enterprise with jay mohr -_-

The USS Pennsylvania is a SSBN-735 that is a Ohio class submarine. There is no way they ate MRE's. The US Navy specifically makes sure that US submarines have some of the best food in the US navy.

http://www.queenfish.org/noframes/subfood.html

Sorry I really don't buy what you are saying.
 

alkemyst

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Hybrid Squirrel, when you say you and your family...were you just a child then? I think the sailors were just fucking with you.

lolz.
 

HybridSquirrel

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Hybrid Squirrel, when you say you and your family...were you just a child then? I think the sailors were just fucking with you.

lolz.

i was 18, they probably were. all the aussie sailors were wearing bermuda shorts and hawaiian t-shirts. but it still didn't look nearly as enjoyable to be on that sub as the russians.
 

Brovane

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OK I just watched part 3 with the naked guys in the Sauna together and jumping in the pool. I really didn't need to see that.

It is amazing to see how far the Russian submarine force has gone down since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
 

Brovane

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A couple years ago there was a show Submarines: Life on a Boomer which followeed a US Ohio class submarine on a 90-day patrol. It was amazing seeing the differences between the US Boomer and the Russian Boomer. Just a couple of quick things that I did see.

#1- The US Boomer was extremely quiet. Basically even the crew was quiet in everything they did. Compared to even the background noise on the Russian Boomer. I suspect that Submarine would stick out like a beacon to a US attack submarine.

#2- The tempo of operations. The US Boomers use two crews so basically the boomer comes back to port for only a couple of weeks for the next crew to take over and it goes back out on a 90-day patrol.

#3- The level of training and sophistication of the equipment on the US Boomers compared to the Russian boomers. It seems the Russians are just luckly to get out of port. The US Boomers spend more time on patrol than setting in port. The crew on US Submarines are extremely well trained.

#4- The level of electronics. The Russian boomer looks like it is stuck in the 70's versus the US boomer which is constantly getting updated and has all sorts of modern electronics.

That being said. US Boomers don't have a smoking room, Sauana, pool or a emergency escape vehicle for that matter.

The Tyhpoon is amazing for just its sure size, but that is about it.
 

adlep

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A couple years ago there was a show Submarines: Life on a Boomer which followeed a US Ohio class submarine on a 90-day patrol. It was amazing seeing the differences between the US Boomer and the Russian Boomer. Just a couple of quick things that I did see.

#1- The US Boomer was extremely quiet. Basically even the crew was quiet in everything they did. Compared to even the background noise on the Russian Boomer. I suspect that Submarine would stick out like a beacon to a US attack submarine.

#2- The tempo of operations. The US Boomers use two crews so basically the boomer comes back to port for only a couple of weeks for the next crew to take over and it goes back out on a 90-day patrol.

#3- The level of training and sophistication of the equipment on the US Boomers compared to the Russian boomers. It seems the Russians are just luckly to get out of port. The US Boomers spend more time on patrol than setting in port. The crew on US Submarines are extremely well trained.

#4- The level of electronics. The Russian boomer looks like it is stuck in the 70's versus the US boomer which is constantly getting updated and has all sorts of modern electronics.

That being said. US Boomers don't have a smoking room, Sauana, pool or a emergency escape vehicle for that matter.

The Tyhpoon is amazing for just its sure size, but that is about it.

US Navy is actually second to none.
However, the Akua (Shark class) atack sub is one sexy object...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akula_class_submarine
 

pcgeek11

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Ask anyone that has ever been in submarines... The russians have the easiest to locate boats in the world. They sound like a model T with half the bolts missing going down a dirt road, loaded with tin cans with rocks in them.

Oh yeah HybridSquirrel you are full of shit. I did 20+ years in US Submarines. Nothing of what you stated is even remotely true.
 

chusteczka

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Ask anyone that has ever been in submarines... The russians have the easiest to locate boats in the world. They sound like a model T with half the bolts missing going down a dirt road, loaded with tin cans with rocks in them.
This is propaganda. Definitely not true.


Oh yeah HybridSquirrel you are full of shit. I did 20+ years in US Submarines. Nothing of what you stated is even remotely true.
There is no need to be so mean. All you have to say is that in your 20+ years of experience, you never ate an MRE.
 

pcgeek11

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Originally Posted by pcgeek11
Ask anyone that has ever been in submarines... The russians have the easiest to locate boats in the world. They sound like a model T with half the bolts missing going down a dirt road, loaded with tin cans with rocks in them.


This is propaganda. Definitely not true.

Sorry, but I have heard way too many of them. It is true. You long have you spent on Subs?


Originally Posted by pcgeek11
Oh yeah HybridSquirrel you are full of shit. I did 20+ years in US Submarines. Nothing of what you stated is even remotely true.

There is no need to be so mean. All you have to say is that in your 20+ years of experience, you never ate an MRE.

I guess I am just a big old mean bastard. :) Hows this; In my 20 years on US Submarines they have never had MREs on them. The closest thing was powdered milk and eggs. Which were only used after the fresh milk and eggs went bad after a month or so.
 

chusteczka

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This is propaganda. Definitely not true.

Sorry, but I have heard way too many of them. It is true. You long have you spent on Subs?




There is no need to be so mean. All you have to say is that in your 20+ years of experience, you never ate an MRE.

I guess I am just a big old mean bastard. :) Hows this; In my 20 years on US Submarines they have never had MREs on them. The closest thing was powdered milk and eggs. Which were only used after the fresh milk and eggs went bad after a month or so.


I am not willing to get into a pissing contest with you but my experience says differently. With my 2.5 years on a Los Angeles fast attack, you certainly have more time and may even be a sonar operator. My time standing the Auxiliaryman of the Watch got me around the whole ship, so when things were happening I was one of the few enlisted watchstanders able to see how the whole ship was reacting to the situation.

I signed some legal form that mentioned something about not talking about things and mentioned 10 years about something. I do not remember whether that was 10 years in jail or 10 years until I could talk about what happened, and they did not give me a copy of that security form for my own records. So I am leery to discuss more.

I may have seen a Russian sub, may have circled it like a shark while they were having swimcall, and may watched the team in the control room attempt to track one or more subs. Maybe the older Russian subs made a lot of noise but my ship was not able to reliably keep track of the subs we may have followed.

It may have taken underwater microphones, one or more civilian surface ships with a towed sonar array several miles long, and one or more surface combatant ships from navies belonging to more than one country to communicate with us and even then our tracking was unreliable. Those opposing subs would get lost. Nobody could find them for several hours at a time until half a day later they somehow got behind us.

Russian engineers are just as good, if not better, than American engineers. They place a higher value on math and science education and more prestige is provided the profession. Their people are good. We just have more money.

Their subs are very capable at what they do, and they were better than my boat.



Thank you for rephrasing, it is appreciated. :)
From what I remember, the fresh milk was finished after a week and the fresh vegetables were gone after the second week. We would be eating canned food after a month at sea.

I never saw any MRE's onboard. The food was good but not excellent.

For those without experience, we would pack as much food as we could possibly pack when we went underway. When going on a deployment, we would pack one gallon cans of food two levels high in the birthing compartments, the heads, and the showers. We even put food in the back space of the Auxiliary Machinery Room behind the oxygen generator.
 

velillen

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All i know from working on submarines is those guys know how to use space! I've crawled in to work on something and there will be a slightly bigger space and BAM locker to use that space. Every free area gets something stored.

Heck i remember when the Connecticut was here and getting ready to go out. They were almost full on food and i remember going ot the lower level engine room and there were just can after can (like 1 gallon cans) of flour, tomatoes, veggies, and other crap in every walkway from the rear to the front in that lower level. You literally just walked on top of the cans.
 

chusteczka

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All i know from working on submarines is those guys know how to use space! I've crawled in to work on something and there will be a slightly bigger space and BAM locker to use that space. Every free area gets something stored.

Heck i remember when the Connecticut was here and getting ready to go out. They were almost full on food and i remember going ot the lower level engine room and there were just can after can (like 1 gallon cans) of flour, tomatoes, veggies, and other crap in every walkway from the rear to the front in that lower level. You literally just walked on top of the cans.

Yep! That is the way it is. :)

The bad thing about it is walking on the cans throws off our feeling for the walkway, so we end up hitting our head on all the machinery, valves, and piping that we had previously learned to avoid. Hitting your head on the sharp corner of a hydraulic control valve hurts real bad. Hitting it again because of walking on cans is extremely frustrating and even angering.