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Inside a Quad G5
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Great, I really can't wait for the benchmarks and for it to get it's ass handed to it by Opteron again. Super.
http://www.barefeats.com/mvdcpc.html
No Opteron tests yet, but the Quad completely owns all Intel and AMD (Athlon) offerings in the tests done.
Wow. Apple has done it AGAIN. That thing is going to be the fastest most innovative thing on earth seriously. This is a great example of top tier engineering. Good job once again Apple.
I'm sure the Opteron's would win. However, most people buy Apple not for performance, but for the operating system. It's hard to argue that OS X is very desirable, especially in a professional enviornment dealing with creative content creation.
You tool. They did 3 whole tests. And they are probably better suited to the Apple architecture. That and it takes Apple 4 cores to beat 2 AMD cores...and AMD's 2 cores are only 3 SECONDS behind the Apple's 4 cores in their beloved photoshop test...yeah...REALLY stomps on the AMD>
I put very little stock in those benchmarks, or more to the point the site that they are from, I've seen benchmarks from that site before and the results they have drawn have been far more than dubious.
While it's hard to say what settings or various sneeky things they have altered on the After Effects and Photoshop benchmarks to give the G5 the advantage it can easily be seen on their game benchmarks that they do not know their ass from their elbow - or rather then don't think you do. Notice how all the game benchmarks are done in a resolution of 1920x1080... Wait are these graphics card benchmarks? Oh, they're CPU benchmarks, the usual testing policy in that case is to run the game and take the GPU out of the equation by REDUCING the resolution... Hey, at least the G5 looks like it's almost as fast as the PCs there right?
Of course that's the idea, if they didn't make the GPU limit the FPS then the PCs, more to the point the Athlon 64s would be scoring around 120FPS in the DOOM3 benchmark, and wouldn't that make the G5 look bad!
So to conclude, if they can make such a hash of the game benchmarks, I really don't trust their other numbers. Not to mention benchmarking a QUAD rig against DUALs???
While it's hard to say what settings or various sneeky things they have altered on the After Effects and Photoshop benchmarks to give the G5 the advantage it can easily be seen on their game benchmarks that they do not know their ass from their elbow - or rather then don't think you do. Notice how all the game benchmarks are done in a resolution of 1920x1080... Wait are these graphics card benchmarks? Oh, they're CPU benchmarks, the usual testing policy in that case is to run the game and take the GPU out of the equation by REDUCING the resolution... Hey, at least the G5 looks like it's almost as fast as the PCs there right?
Of course that's the idea, if they didn't make the GPU limit the FPS then the PCs, more to the point the Athlon 64s would be scoring around 120FPS in the DOOM3 benchmark, and wouldn't that make the G5 look bad!
So to conclude, if they can make such a hash of the game benchmarks, I really don't trust their other numbers. Not to mention benchmarking a QUAD rig against DUALs???
Anandtech has some much less biased benchmarks, though they do test server apps mainly, it's a laugh riot!
OS X is not desireable to me and I do content creation stuff all the time on my PC. There is absolutely no reason for me to use Apple because it simply offers no advantage.
secretanchitman
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Er, if you look at Cinebench, the Quad did perform about 500 points "better" then the DC Athlon 2.2.
BTW, Barefeats has been considered one of the best, non-biased sources for comparing Apple to x86 systems.
Edit: If you look at Barefeats past test, you'll see that the PC's won most of the tests. Barefeats is NOT biased. I'm sure they will extend their testing to other platforms and tests as soon as they have the oppertunity to.
"We weren't able to match the clock speed exactly, but I'm giving you the results from those Dual-Core Macs and PCs made avaialable to us so far."
On top of that, the tests done are all programs that are widely used. AfterEffects is VERY much used, and the Quad beat all the other machines significantly.
And if you take 65% of the score in Cinebench and say that's roughly equivalent to a DC Apple...the DC AMD beats it.
They have shown their bias in that article.
If they wanted to test games, they could have easily put a 7800GT Mac Edition against a 7800GT on the PC's and run at say 1600x1200 and 1280x1024
Oh and yes the QC did beat the systems in video rendering....well big surprise it has 2 more cores to churn out frames. I could have told you the results of that test without even running it.
Except that Apple has discontinued their 7800GT card
. Regarding your dual-cord arguement, look at the scores. A Dual processor 2.7GHz Apple pretty much almost ties the Dual Core Athlon 2.2GHz, albeit losing a few points. Wheres the bias?
Thats exactly the point, the QC DID beat it. If you're a company needing the LEADING performance for an Apple platform, the QC is where to turn. We have yet to see Quad-core Opteron tests vs. a Apple QC system. I'm sure that the Opteron would stomp the Apple, but like I said, many companies need APPLE platforms.
EDIT: Notice how Barefeats tested the AMD/Intel solutions using both XP and XP-64? Real biased...
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Except that Apple has discontinued their 7800GT card
Regarding your dual-cord arguement, look at the scores. A Dual processor 2.7GHz Apple pretty much almost ties the Dual Core Athlon 2.2GHz, albeit losing a few points. Wheres the bias?
Except that they tested using a 7800GT in their benchmarks
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Except that Apple has discontinued their 7800GT card
Regarding your dual-cord arguement, look at the scores. A Dual processor 2.7GHz Apple pretty much almost ties the Dual Core Athlon 2.2GHz, albeit losing a few points. Wheres the bias?
Except that they tested using a 7800GT in their benchmarks
Eek...my mistake. However, Barefeats is a private website that doesn't have every available resource. LEts face it, GPU's aren't cheap, and they can't have all of them. They're doing their best to accurately test, and we all know that an x86 processor will whip the G5 at gaming. It's a fact. When you take into account that most games only see one core, that makes it even worse for Apple. No one is arguing that.
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