Inkjet Ink

[Ornery]

My first printer was a VERY expensive BJC-4000 and it printed great... so long as I printed every few days. Let it sit too long and you were looking at clogged heads. My in-laws and I never got to use the color cartridge from that printer, because lack of use allowed the head to clog perminantly.

I went with HP after that, and never had those problems again. Naturally, the first time I give Canon another shot, more of the same. My son's iP3000 printed with minor streaking right out of the box. Several cleanings didn't help. After a few weeks, he finally did a few deep cleanings in a row, and it seems to be OK... for now. Hell, even mine is OK at the moment, using generic tanks. Damn things are too fussy. Exactly why I bailed on Canon in the first place!

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Ornery
My first printer was a VERY expensive BJC-4000 and it printed great... so long as I printed every few days. Let it sit too long and you were looking at clogged heads. My in-laws and I never got to use the color cartridge from that printer, because lack of use allowed the head to clog perminantly.

I went with HP after that, and never had those problems again. Naturally, the first time I give Canon another shot, more of the same. My son's iP3000 printed with minor streaking right out of the box. Several cleanings didn't help. After a few weeks, he finally did a few deep cleanings in a row, and it seems to be OK... for now. Hell, even mine is OK at the moment, using generic tanks. Damn things are too fussy. Exactly why I bailed on Canon in the first place!

Your full of crap, Canon printers are rock solid and have the fewest complaints agianst them. The fact your using cheap chinese carts in them might be the problem.

Mine doesn't get used for 2 weeks and then it works great.

PS: My neighbor has gone through 6 HP printers in a years time.

 

[Ornery]

Facts:

• My & my inlaw's Canon BJC-4000 had clogging issues
• My son's iP3000 had streaking right out of the box, brand new. OK now, but we're holding our breath...
• My HPs worked, and work without a hitch with bulk ink
• My iP3000 didn't!
• The only printers used all over our shop are HP, and they just NEVER screw up!

Sorry if FACTS don't sit well with you, but I'm the one coughing up the money for these fussy things.

BTW, mine just printed beautifully, and I couldn't be happier about that FACT.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Facts:

• My & my inlaw's Canon BJC-4000 had clogging issues
• My son's iP3000 had streaking right out of the box, brand new. OK now, but we're holding our breath...
• My HPs worked, and work without a hitch with bulk ink
• My iP3000 didn't!

Sorry if FACTS don't sit well with you, but I'm the one coughing up the money for these fussy things.

BTW, mine just printed beautifully, and I couldn't be happier about that FACT.

Agian, if you or your son have a defective printer return the damn thing, no need to hold your breath.


I'm going to guess the lousy carts you bought have something to do with the fact that yours doesn't work very well.

Either use Canon OEM ink or swiftink.com no reason to put up with bad quality carts bought off some flight by night website.

Remember they make 10's of thousands of printers and most work great. You apparently got the bad ones and didn't return them. Your son should have returned his right away.

 

[Ornery]

If I return my son's they'll say it's working fine. My problems didn't start till I put bulk ink in it. From the same supplier of bulk that works perfectly in my HP. Theres no way I can return mine without installing OEM cartridges, and besides, it's working now. How can you return a product that's actually working right? My luck, I'd get a refurb with the exact same sporadic trouble!

If it keeps working OK, I'll count my blessings. I'll keep poking it and coaxing it along till it won't work anymore. I've got close to $75.00 tied up in it already! :laugh:

 

[delphiboy]

I always shop on Abcink, there are many quality OEM and Remanufactured ink $ toner with cheap price.

 

[SonicIce]

someone let me know what ip4200 ink gets cheap

 

[Lemon law]

To Sonic Ice,

When you ask when ip4200 ink get cheap, its sort of a vague question----what do you mean?

Because the ip4200 is a chipped Canon, no third party prefilled cartridge will work. No chip no print.
Of course, if and when ways around the chip is found, third party cartridges should become readily available. Many good minds have been working on this for better than six months with no results so far. So anyone guess on when is a guess.

If you are talking about merely refilling empty chipped Canon cartridges and using any third party ink, this is already possible. You have to navigate numerous nag screens, lose ink monitoring, but many users are doing this already in the ip4200 and other chipped Canons. See numerous posts on
Steves Digicams and nifty stuff forums for user reviews of which ink matches the slightly altered
chromalife100 color profile and how to navigate nag screen instructions.

 

[SonicIce]

Yeah i knew about the chip Lemon. I was hoping there was a way around it sooner rather than later because the ip4200 was cheaper than the 4000 when i bought it and i hate buyers remorse . hope they crack the chips soon because 4 bucks for a cartridge is alot more appealing than 12 bucks.

 

[Lemon law]

The real bright side will be when they crack the chip, the ip4200 will be better technology than the
ip4000 I have.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
The real bright side will be when they crack the chip, the ip4200 will be better technology than the
ip4000 I have.

The IP5200 is the printer to own for refillers, with 3600 nozzles and photo quality on par with the i9900 it's a steal. To bad it can't do pictures bigger then 8x11.

 

[imported_DarkPenguin]

I like www.atlex.com. OEM ink.

For the record my Canon BJC-4000 used to clog every now and again. Also for the record my S-750 lived a long and happy life only showing signs of one clogged print nozzle at the very end.

Also, for the record, my Epson 1280 is only unclogged every now and again. (And clogged so bad right now I almost threw it into the snow last night.) Edit: Same situation with my 780. That one took a tumble down the stairs into my basement.

My HPs all worked perfectly. Except they were slow. They couldn't use heavy paper because of how they fed it. (Really, who thought "Hey! Lets make the paper go 180! That will be great!"?) And their ink was insanely priced unless you got it in serious bulk. (Like enough to fill lake Ontario.) But other than that they were great.

 

[theslickvik]

costco is the place to go!!!!!

 

[Wuzup101]

I've been using OEM ink in my canon i950 for the last few years (bought it summer of 2003). I think the next ink carts that I buy are going to come from swiftink or another online retailer. I can't pass up those prices!

 

[Lemon law]

To Wuzup 101,

Your i950 is just one of a large number of Canon printer using the BCI-3&6 cartridges. This family of printers offers the best economy of any ink jet printer when paired with OEM cartridges. The new chipped Canons using the BCI-5 and CLI-8 colors are almost as good using OEM ink.---except the new chipped Canons make using third party cartridges currently impossible and refilling difficult.

Since you have one of the the old style Canons using the BCI-3&6 family of cartridges. So using third party cartridges------and depending on the vendor will offer consumable cost savings in the range of 2x to 9x.------------swiftink, from what I have seen of their pricing offer a three fold reduction in price over OEM--------the vendor I use about a 7x reduction in price. ( with the price not being a good predictor of color balance, risk of problems, or value in most cases--which is why its important to check which vendors have satisfied users on this and other forums---but th one place where OEM ink is superior is in the area of fade resistance)

But the learned refiller can get up to a 30x reduction by buying ink in very large quanities----and there is a learning curve associated.--------and most home refillers don't buy ink in large enough quanities to get the huge 30x savings-----you have to cost it out to really see----but my guess would be only 10-15x for most.

In the end, each user has to decide based on their printing volume, what savings are enough to say I am happy-----no point in looking for further savings.

This is especially true when one considers that the photopaper is as much of a factor as the ink. Some ink do well with one photopaper and poorly with another. So once you hit a happy point where the output is excellent with the paper you use-----don't change anything.

With the joker in the deck being your cartridge vendor can change their supplier or your photopaper vendor can bring out that new improved paper that suddenly gives you lousy results where you had excellent results before.

So in the end you pays your mony and takes your chances-----even with OEM cartridges.

But you are right-----those savings are hard to pass up if you do much printing.-------and especially satisfying given most HP's and Lexmarks are in the range of 2.5x to 6+x times more expensive to use over than the i950 you have.