Inkjet Ink

[SirChadwick]

Select USPS shipping and it's super cheap. $3.95 for me for all of this (10 cartridges).
2for1imaging.com


Name Code Qty Each Options
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Canon® BCI-6C (BCI-6, BCI-6C 2 0.99
BCI6, BCI6C0 Cyan
Compatible ink tank for
PIXMA iP6000D, iP8500,
iP5000, iP4000R, iP3000,
iP4000, i560, i860, i950,
i9100, S820, S830D, and
S900
Canon® BCI-6Y Yellow BCI-6Y 2 0.99
Compatible Ink Tank for
PIXMA iP6000D, iP8500,
iP5000, iP4000R, iP3000,
iP4000, i560, i860, i950,
i9100, S820, S830D, and
S900
Canon® BCI-6M (BCI-6, BCI-6M 2 0.99
BCI6) Magenta Compatible
Ink Tank for PIXMA
iP6000D, iP8500, iP5000,
iP4000R, iP3000, iP4000,
i560, i860, i950, i9100,
S820, S830D, and S900
Canon BCI-3eBK, BCI 3e, BCI-3eBK 2 0.99
BCI3, BCI-3, BCI3B,
BCI3eBk Compatible Ink
Tank for Canon PIXMA
iP3000, iP4000, iP4000R,
iP5000, i850, i550, S520
and S530D Printers
Canon® BCI-6BK (BCI-6B, BCI-6Bk 2 0.99
BCI6, BCI6B, BCI-6)
Compatible Black Ink Tank
for PIXMA iP6000D,
iP8500, i950, i960,
S830D, S800, S820, S900,
S8200, S9000: Canon
BCI-6BK (BCI-6B, BCI6,
BCI6BK) Compatible Black
Ink Tank for i950, i960,
S830D
Subtotal 9.90
Shipping 3.95
Tax 0.69
Total 14.54

 

[Ornery]

Anybody else using an iP3000? I don't print often with mine, like about twice per week, and when I do, I hold my breath that all tanks will be working. I frequently have to make a couple prints because the first one had a tank not working, or the head was misfiring.

My son's required several "Deep Cleanings" to get it working right out of the box. He used it with the original ink for a couple weeks, wondering why there were lines in his output. Don't know how his is working at this point, but mine is hit & miss.

 

[SirChadwick]

hmmm... well now you've got me worried about the order i just placed. oh well, it's only $15

 

[Ornery]

Nothing to worry about, because I haven't used any of that ink. I had it sent to my son's dorm for when his iP3000 runs out of ink, but it hasn't yet...

Having trouble believing nobody else has experience with that printer!

 

[Ornery]

I've been having a helluva time with this bulk ink I bought a while back. Everytime I go to print something, I have to make a few test prints before it starts printing right. I finally got fed up and ordered ink from 2 for 1 Imaging.

The ink took about 4 days to arrive, and was well packaged. Each tank came in a cardboard box, wrapped in a sealed plastic bag and further sealed in shrink wrap. It had the same type of "twist" cap that Canon uses on their OEM tanks. They snapped tightly into the printer, which my last tanks didn't. I think that's what caused the trouble. First test page was perfect. I tried again today, and it was flawless. I will NEVER buy bulk ink again!

Here's the order:

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  Cost Qty Item
  
  $2.97 3 Canon BCI-3eBK (BCI-3eB) Compatible Ink Tank for Canon PIXMA iP3000 Printers
  
  $2.97 3 Canon BCI-3eC, BCI-3C Compatible Cyan Ink Tank for Canon BJC-3000 Printers
  
  $2.97 3 Canon BCI-3eM, BCI-3M Compatible Magenta Ink Tank for Canon BJC-3000 Printers
  
  $2.97 3 Canon BCI-3eY, BCI-3Y Compatible Yellow Ink Tank for Canon BJC-3000 Printers
  
  $11.88 Subtotal
  $04.55 Shipping
  
  $16.43 Total (That's for 12 ink tanks!)

 

[eflat]

I cannot imagine why anyone would waste time and money on ink with the prices laser printers sell at today.

The only good use for an inkjet printer is printing photos - which is a better value at Costco anyways.

Die inkjets, die.

 

[Lemon law]

Will note that there are web sites that review these bulk inks or non-oem cartridges.

So google "nifty stuff forums" without the quotes. Why buy pigs in a poke when others have reviewed these products
and posted their experiences.---any many of these reviews are far more scientific than what is posted here--which might be described as I have used this and it sucked or it was great.--with little in between.

As for me, I use www.bulkinkjetcarts.com for my Canon printers. But I only considered that vendor after I read a review that told me I was probably dealing with a reliable vendor and that these cartridges were very close to Canon OEM in color profile. -----what is important is not my choice but the fact that other reviewed cartridges are also rated very good.-----and that other cartridge brands have produced bad experiences.---with price being no predictor.

In terms of bulk ink vendors----mis inks get rave reviews and a new vendor hobbicolors that only vends on ebay now is worth looking at for both their inks but also their well designed blank cartridges------even though I have zero experience with these vendors I still get a good view of them because I look at forums that cover these products. And lots of good and lots of not so good inks exist.--but big hint--make sure the ink will work well in your printer even if it works well in some other person's brand of printer.

But I have only one thing to say to CitizenDoug--------my inkjet will print cheaper than your laser believe it or not. And also do color. But there is nothing wrong with a Laser either. To each their own. So get informed about what the right inkjet can do in the hands of an informed user.-------so get ye to nifty stuff forums or steves digicams. tap into the knowledge of fellow users.

 

[Ornery]

According to Nifty-Stuff.com, the ink tanks are made by "Multi Union". They cost $16.43 Total from www.2for1imaging.com.

The same order from www.bulkinkjetcarts.com would be $17.49 + $6.00 shipping. As far as I can see, they're probably from the same manufacturer.

I use my color inkjet for printing CD and DVD covers, as well as school projects and PDFs. My son uses his at college for his digital design projects. I'm certain that would all be cheaper and more convenient to do at Costco. :roll:

Edit: Oh brother, topic moved to BFE. :roll:

 

[corkyg]

Office Depot - choice of brand name or O/D generics.

 

[BespinReactorShaft]

Originally posted by: Ornery
My son's required several "Deep Cleanings" to get it working right out of the box. He used it with the original ink for a couple weeks, wondering why there were lines in his output. Don't know how his is working at this point, but mine is hit & miss.

My Canon S200spx (predecessor to iP1000) has been giving me inkless lines too. I use it maybe a few times a month. The ink is original and quite recently installed so I'm suspecting a head problem. I once tried several deep cleans in a row (major ink wastage?) to no effect, gave up, and tried it half an hour later to find it working perfectly. :disgust:

Originally posted by: CitizenDoug
I cannot imagine why anyone would waste time and money on ink with the prices laser printers sell at today.

Good point. If the above problem keeps recurring for the best part of next year, I'm definitely going for a laser printer (hopefully one that does double-sided prints AND compact enough for my cramped desk space).

 

[Ornery]

I have an update to my wondrous Pixma 3000 printing, but I doubt more than three people will see it in this waste land of a forum. :roll: (This thread was started in Off Topic)

After an initial great start with the new ink, I tried to print some DVD covers (yeah, I really want those in black & white, or go to Costco for them) and every single head was dry! Deep cleaning did almost nothing. I pulled the tanks out and "primed 'em" by squeezing them into a tissue, then reinserted them. Colors all worked, but black was still dry. Pulled it out and "primed" it some more. That did the trick. Printed perfectly.

Just did a nozzle check, and the cyan is dry! POS! :| "Primed" the cyan and the nozzle check shows streaking. Cleaned the color nozzles and... now the magenta and yellow are dry! SOB, It's going out the damn window in a minute!

 

[Looney]

I buy OEM ink. I have the old Canon printer, and i get them for about 80% off retail anyways ($3.95CDN for each cartridge for my IP5000 ... regular at Staples is $17)

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Ornery
I have an update to my wondrous Pixma 3000 printing, but I doubt more than three people will see it in this waste land of a forum. :roll: (This thread was started in Off Topic)

After an initial great start with the new ink, I tried to print some DVD covers (yeah, I really want those in black & white, or go to Costco for them) and every single head was dry! Deep cleaning did almost nothing. I pulled the tanks out and "primed 'em" by squeezing them into a tissue, then reinserted them. Colors all worked, but black was still dry. Pulled it out and "primed" it some more. That did the trick. Printed perfectly.

Just did a nozzle check, and the cyan is dry! POS! :| "Primed" the cyan and the nozzle check shows streaking. Cleaned the color nozzles and... now the magenta and yellow are dry! SOB, It's going out the damn window in a minute!

I have a IP3000 and wonder if your complaining about the printer or about the low priced ink carts you purchased ?

PS: Mine runs like a dream.

 

[13Gigatons]

For all the people saying how GREAT your carts are from whatever flight by night store you purchase them, please keep this in mind.

The only two aftermarket ink producers tested that are any good are:

1. Formulabs..............Alotofthings.com

2. ImageSpecialist......MIS

These inks and stores are tried and true and have profiles for different kinds of photo papers.

This forum: http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/index.php is completely dedicated to testing aftermarket ink and cooking up profiles for photopaper.


Some others worth mentioning are http://www.swiftink.com , don't know who makes their ink but it's claim to made in the USA and the service is good.

Hobbicolors is new and they sell kits on eBay, have no clue where they get their ink but it is pretty good. Some say it's a little weaker then Formulabs but still pretty good.

 

[Zepper]

Canon i and iP series priters: I have bought from Tyler-Martin and affiliates (their USA brand), but the quality slid so now I'm buying from swiftink.com. And so far the quality has been excellent.

.bh.

 

[Lemon law]

In regard to the post made by 13Gigatons partly regarding hobbicolors.

1. Hobbicolors does refuse to divulge the source of their ink according to some posts I have seen.
2. Hobbicolors have received some good reviews. More importantly they respond to e-mail as I can
personally attest. The vendor is responsive to concerns and questions.-----a big thing in my book.
3. One selling point for hobbicolor refill kits is their innovative unfilled cartridge design with a screw seal
refilling port.----something that may make refilling much easier.
4. I have not yet ordered from them but may in the future,-----I am still using the cartridges I ordered from
bulkinkjetcarts.com and can post I have had no such similar problems posted by Ornery.-----I always get consistant ink delivery and have not had to ever reprime a cartridge. And unlike Ornery's vendor--I have a toll free telephone number to bitch to-----thankfully I have never had to use it.

And also its spot on to post formula labs and MIS inks get rave reviews. So why buy pigs in the poke----check out other forums.------then you pays your money and takes your chances. Or stick to OEM and get ripped off. Cheer up,
all roards may lead to ruin.

 

[shortylickens]

I dont buy ink.

I bought an LaserJet 1000. It cost 150 bucks.

It came with a full toner cartridge.

That was four years ago.

Its still 1/2 full.

I'll never buy ink.
Ever.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
I dont buy ink.

I bought an LaserJet 1000. It cost 150 bucks.

It came with a full toner cartridge.

That was four years ago.

Its still 1/2 full.

I'll never buy ink.
Ever.

Sounds to me like you don't print anything either. Those toner carts are either 1500 page or 4500 page carts. People who actually print will use them.

Also unless you get a color Laser printer {which can cost $400 and toner carts range $75-150} you can't print out DVD covers and other things that need to be done in color.

 

[Lemon law]

Take the case of shortylickens-----he paid 15,000 pennies for a laser printer----lets be charatable and say he got a 4500 page toner cartridge with the printer. And since the cartridge is half gone he has printed 2250 pages---or thus far he has paid 6.67 cents per page.-----in another four years he may have to buy toner and will have reduced his per page cost to 3.33 cents. Assuming he goes OEM toner that costs say $80., his next 4500 pages cost only 1.777 cents per page. All the while he forgoes the ability to print in color.

Meanwhile, I buy a Canon ip4000 for $100. Assuming I only print B/W text, my first OEM cartridge
bundled with the printer craps out after 500 pages.---so I have paid 10,000 pennies to get just 500 pages. Or a whopping twenty cents per page.-------but then I get nine 500 page cartridges from my
favorite cartridge vendor for $15.-----so at the end of that order I will have printed 5000 pages for
$115.-----for a cost of 2.3 cents per page over that period.------I am beating shorty's 3.33 cents and have printed 500 more pages. My next 4500 pages costs me only a third of a cent vs. shorty's 1.77 cents.-------and I get to print in color for not much more per page while shorty can't even print green with envy.

But shorty should and could point out some distortions I am making. (1) Shorty gets a higher resolution in general---he can print smaller fonts. (2) I better print frequently or I will lose quite a bit of ink in cleaning cycles. Worse yet, if I take that five month around the world cruse with all the money I am saving, I will probably have a clogged printhead. Shorty can leave for years and have no problems with his laser. (3) After 5000 pages or so I may have to replace my printhead--not due to a clog but due to burnout.----thats $60. or so.

But the real point is that Shortylickens is happy with his choices and limitations, I am happy with my choices and limitations, and we have both examined our choices.

My greivance is with the uninformed consumers who purchase inkjet junk and send a clear message to manufacters of rip us off more please. They seem all too happy to do so. We won't get better inkjets until consumers demand better.----we could have much better at this point in technology.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
I dont buy ink.

I bought an LaserJet 1000. It cost 150 bucks.

It came with a full toner cartridge.

That was four years ago.

Its still 1/2 full.

I'll never buy ink.
Ever.

Aren't you special!

I have a laser printer too for just text... and a Canon IP5000 for colors and photos.

 

[shortylickens]

I was right about my theory in post content.

Anyway, its not being generous. HP's ship with FULL toner cartridges. Thats the standard, not a special deal. The second estimate was correct. Its good for 4500 prints. Replacements cost 40 bucks plus tax. I print for a penny per page.

And if I ever feel like illegally copying massive amounts of DVD's, I can probably settle for monochrome labels. I have no clue where anyone got the idea they NEED to be done in color. The video is on the disc itself in the form of ones and zeros. Color labels dont change the movie at all.

So far the only good argument for ink is color. Since we finally have home color lasers that can do photo quality I think my choices are looking pretty good.

I was aware you could get hi-cap cartidges for most inkjets, but 15 dollars for nine of them is definately a steal. I wish my company would use something besides crummy Lexmarks. We keep getting the $30 low-capacity carts. Those are gonna drive us into bankruptcy. I've begged them a thousand times to move over to cheap lasers or get one nice laser and network it. They say its more cost-effective to buy 2 ink cartidges PER PERSON every month than to get laser printers.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
So far the only good argument for ink is color. Since we finally have home color lasers that can do photo quality I think my choices are looking pretty good.

And how much does a good color laser that can do photo quality cost? Including toner.

I've never printed a DVD on my inkjet, but i've printed tons of photos. The vast majority of photos i need to print, i only need to print a handful at a time. So driving to Costco to print 3-4 photos is a waste of time for me. And the convenience of being able to print when i want it is important as well. When i need to print a couple of dozen, then yeah, i'll take it out and have it done.

 

[Lemon law]

I look at the arguements of shortylickens and Looney------and conclude they are both right and I can live with that. They justify their arguements with facts and figures---how they weigh the facts is their business. But I can sure see how Shortylickens could be soured in inkjets when his employer uses Lexmark.----shorty is correct---that company could save a bundle on lasers.

But I think Looney has a good arguement also----use a Laser when a Laser is better and use an inkjet when an inkjet is better. And color Lasers can't yet compete with inkjets on photoquality.

Since most people limit them selves to only one printer------I maintain maximum versatility is obtained with a fairly inexpensive inkjet like a ip4000. Not only is the initial purchase price lower,
using third party cartridges or refilling keeps the per page consumable costs lower than a laser. Nor is nine cartridges for $15. a super bargain-----other places pare that down to $9.----and if I buy top quality bulk ink and refill----I figure I can get my per page B/W text down to one tenth of a cent per page.

On the other hand-----if a user buys a rip off inkjet-----Lexmarks are fine examples of that species.
Then one is doomed to high per page cost city. Nor are Lexmark cartridges easy to refill---commercially refilled cartridges are not all that reliable and seldom save over 50% of OEM.
If this thread and this forum can steer users away from printers made by HP, Lexmark, and dell that are just plain hopeless in terms of per page economy, it will send a message that buyers are wising up and demanding better.-----and while we are at it--might as well boycott the new chipped Canons until a workaround is found for the chip.

 

[Ornery]

OMG, I just did a nozzle check and the damn thing is working! :Q

I will NOT go without color, and will NOT pony up the bucks for laser color. I've been waiting years for that to become more reasonably priced, and it's not there yet.

Both sons use color for school. I use color for anything my heart desires, but not photos, though I've shot about 17,000 of them. I rarely print them, but use Walmart when I do.

Whatever printer I end up with WILL be using after market ink, one way or another, from one supplier or another. I will NOT pay what OEMs want for it. I'll just keep experimenting. So far, I've spent far less than one set of OEM replacement tanks would have cost.

My first go with bulk ink was using the original ink tanks, which had been refilled. Those tanks also had problems with going dry and streaking. My Old HP 895Cxi is functioning perfectly with bulk ink, but "perfect" for that printer is not photo quality, nor is it fast. I'm curious why Canon dropped these Pixma iP3000 printers so quickly. I'm not sure they were even out a whole year! I'm just kind of worried there's an inherent problem with them. I bought them for a song, after rebates. What's the best bang for the buck replacement?

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Ornery
OMG, I just did a nozzle check and the damn thing is working! :Q

I will NOT go without color, and will NOT pony up the bucks for laser color. I've been waiting years for that to become more reasonably priced, and it's not there yet.

Both sons use color for school. I use color for anything my heart desires, but not photos, though I've shot about 17,000 of them. I rarely print them, but use Walmart when I do.

Whatever printer I end up with WILL be using after market ink, one way or another, from one supplier or another. I will NOT pay what OEMs want for it. I'll just keep experimenting. So far, I've spent far less than one set of OEM replacement tanks would have cost.

My first go with bulk ink was using the original ink tanks, which had been refilled. My Old HP 895Cxi is functioning perfectly with bulk ink, but "perfect" for that printer is not photo quality, nor is it fast. I'm curious why Canon dropped these Pixma iP3000 printers so quickly. I'm not sure they were even out a whole year! I'm just kind of worried there's an inherent problem with them. I bought them for a song, after rebates. What's the best bang for the buck replacement?

Nothing is wrong with the IP3000, it's a great printer. If you purchased a defective one then please return it and stop complaining. They come with a 1 year replacement warranty.

The reason Canon replaced them was they could make more money off the IP4200 which replaced the IP3000 and IP4000. It's priced at $80 when on sale. Then there is the awesome IP5200 which is $129 when onsale.

It also did not make sense to have three printers so closely priced together when two would do the job.

Also the IP3000, IP4000, IP5000 allowed generic carts and Canon was eager to stop production and get the 4200/5200 with microchipped carts on the market and stop people from buying those $4 carts from places like http://www.swiftink.com