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HomerJS

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Careful on calling this evidence, would be real easy for Russia to troll a Democrat too.
For example: Warren says I’d like to see Trumps tax returns, then Trumps accountant gets hacked.
My guess Trump's accountants are better with their security then the Dems
 
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Interesting thing I heard from some former Intel guy was this is the first time gathered political info was weaponized.
He said it’s normal order to gather intelligence it’s not normal to gather intelligence and release it after finding what would have the best results.
 

sactoking

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Careful on calling this evidence, would be real easy for Russia to troll a Democrat too.
For example: Warren says I’d like to see Trumps tax returns, then Trumps accountant gets hacked.

Isn't the collusion issue here not that he suggested the hack and it was done but instead that he suggested the hack, it was done, THEN THE SPOILS WERE OFFERED TO HIS REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY WERE EAGER TO RECEIVE THEM?
 
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Isn't the collusion issue here not that he suggested the hack and it was done but instead that he suggested the hack, it was done, THEN THE SPOILS WERE OFFERED TO HIS REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY WERE EAGER TO RECEIVE THEM?

Just saying everything goes in a circle regarding Politics.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Two twitter threads I'd suggest everyone read (non-twitter links for easier reading):

Seth Abramson's live reading of the indictments (does a good job connecting the dots to various dates and events):
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1017807929045635072.html

Judd Legum's indictments thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1017808130900680704.html

Also, this Fox News flake is the reporter from the indictment--my guess is he's one of Hannity's underlings:

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Jhhnn

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Careful on calling this evidence, would be real easy for Russia to troll a Democrat too.
For example: Warren says I’d like to see Trumps tax returns, then Trumps accountant gets hacked.

And if agents of a foreign govt approach the Warren camp offering gifts they decline & report it to the FBI. Easy-peasy, right?
 

vi edit

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As I suspected, media is already starting to connect the chronology of the dates to other things we knew about. Also, confirmed some of the messages transcribed in the indictment are from Roger Stone. We're on the roller coaster as it's slowly clickity clacking up to the top of major slope. Soon we'll be throwing our arms up in the air screaming Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
 

Younigue

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And Mueller shit all over Trumps meet up with Putin that he’s been furiously fapping over.
People are saying Trump May cancel the scheduled BJ he planned to give.
But what's a greased & ready to go cock holster ta do when it's only purpose is rendered useless? Poor cock holster... just kidding Trump will dawn you and still meet with the little big guy!
 

sportage

Lifer
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Now we know why this is taking Mueller so long.
Lots of collusion going on.... Collusion that runs quite deep. Tip of the ice berg.
No wonder Trump republicans want this ended immediately.
And if they got their way, just imagine what we'd never find out.
And how deep into our elections process Putin would eventually plant himself. Permanently!
After all, we are talking about a KGB agent. One of the best if not the best.
Someone who poisons people, mastered cyber hacking, blackmails an American president, and probably is watching everything you do right now.
And... has successfully convince an entire American congress to look the other way.
Now THAT is some damn smart KGB-ing if you ask me.

And Donald Trump's involvement with all of this?
Just imagine if a child molester kidnapped your child, and you later discovered that your spouse was engaged in collusion with the kidnapper. Wouldn't that raise a few red flags as it were? And raise the question.... WTF?
 

Ackmed

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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
 
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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
Lets post the quote shall we?

"That is an accurate rendering of the conversation at the staff meeting but the larger context is something that we can discuss in the classified session," Daniel said. "But I can say there were many concerns about how many people were involved in the development of the options so the decision at that point was to neck down the number of people that were involved in our ongoing response options. It's not accurate to say all activities ceased at that point.

Now. You were saying?

Oh and Twitter cleared out a lot of locked accounts. It wasn't just Obama. He just happens to have over 100M followers so it's a larger number.

Katy Perry lost over 2 million as well. Why? Because she is one of only two people with more followers than Obama.
 

Younigue

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Now we know why this is taking Mueller so long.
Lots of collusion going on.... Collusion that runs quite deep. Tip of the ice berg.
No wonder Trump republicans want this ended immediately.
And if they got their way, just imagine what we'd never find out.
And how deep into our elections process Putin would eventually plant himself. Permanently!
After all, we are talking about a KGB agent. One of the best if not the best.
Someone who poisons people, mastered cyber hacking, blackmails an American president, and probably is watching everything you do right now.
And... has successfully convince an entire American congress to look the other way.
Now THAT is some damn smart KGB-ing if you ask me.

And Donald Trump's involvement with all of this?
Just imagine if a child molester kidnapped your child, and you later discovered that your spouse was engaged in collusion with the kidnapper. Wouldn't that raise a few red flags as it were? And raise the question.... WTF?
By "smart" I assume you also mean evil.
 

zinfamous

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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.

Obama also has something like 10 times the followers that Trump has, so a 10-fold difference in purged fake accounts is, well, what you expect from math.

That damn math, though.
 

Younigue

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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
Traitor.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
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Apparently the attacks (spear phishing) started on the same day trump publicly asked Russia to find those missing Hillary emails.

Yes, I read that too. It's hard to say which way that cuts. A colluder doesn't collude with his co-conspirators in public. It makes Trump look like more of a useful idiot. It does solidify the notion that they were clearly trying to help Trump though.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
Try again.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/0...against-publicizing-the-russian-meddling.html
 
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dank69

Lifer
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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
Keep regurgitating the talking points your masters provide for you.
 

Jhhnn

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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.

Blame Obama & the evil DNC for being chumped by Trump & his Russian pals. How quaint. How utterly predictable.

I'm sure it's perfectly clear to you that the Russians were in it for the MAGA, right?
 

Maxima1

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Yes, I read that too. It's hard to say which way that cuts. A colluder doesn't collude with his co-conspirators in public. It makes Trump look like more of a useful idiot. It does solidify the notion that they were clearly trying to help Trump though.

This is just one event in a point of time. There are many interactions Trump plausibly had with the Russians or those connected to them. For example, Trump was apparently A-OK with Papadopoulous outing that he was an intermediary of the Kremlin. It's quite a coincidence that after that March 31st National Sec meeting, much of what Russia did to further their attack happened in the succeeding month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/trump-russia-mueller-indictment.html

"On March 31, back in Washington, Mr. Papadopoulos met Mr. Trump for the first time at a gathering of his new foreign policy team at the candidate’s Washington hotel. According to the former Trump adviser who was there, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid offending former colleagues, Mr. Papadopoulos spoke for a few minutes about his Russian contacts and the prospects for a meeting with the Russian president."
 
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Damn Mueller for ruining that joint cyber defense agreement Trump wanted to talk to Puti about
Now our elections won’t be safe and they’re probably rigged if Trump loses.
 

woolfe9998

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This is just one event in a point of time. There are many interactions Trump plausibly had with the Russians or those connected to them. For example, Trump was apparently A-OK with Papadopoulous outing that he was an intermediary of the Kremlin. It's quite a coincidence that after that March 31st National Sec meeting, much of what Russia did to further their attack happened in the succeeding month.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/trump-russia-mueller-indictment.html

"On March 31, back in Washington, Mr. Papadopoulos met Mr. Trump for the first time at a gathering of his new foreign policy team at the candidate’s Washington hotel. According to the former Trump adviser who was there, and who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid offending former colleagues, Mr. Papadopoulos spoke for a few minutes about his Russian contacts and the prospects for a meeting with the Russian president."

I've well read on all of it. I was addressing how to interpret this particular new piece of information.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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Kind of hard to complain about this if you're a Democrat. Obama gave the order to stand down to his top cyber chief when our own government was trying to investigate the at the time alleged meddling by Russia Then the DNC refused to give the FBI the sever in question.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-down-order-against-russian-cyberattacks.html

I don't like meddling by anyone in an election. Little hypocritical as we've done it ourselves as a country though. If it never happened we'd never know what the DNC was up to though. If found guilty, hopefully they get serious consequences.

Twitter just purged over 2 million bots from the Obama account though. Kinda interesting when comparing.
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