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VRAMdemon

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Trump is weighing in on twitter that there should be no Mueller report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ort/ar-BBUOz8v

His basis is that the whole investigation is illegal. Why?.. 2 reasons...

1. When the investigation started, there was no crime! Yanno, In a system in which you are innocent until proven guilty, technically there isn't a crime until the Conclusion of the investigation. Plus, bare assertion! When the report is released we will finally see all the motives for producing it.

2. He' treating the Steele dossier as some kind of linchpin to the whole case, and since Hillary paid for it, it is automatically bogus.

It is looking like Trump has no real legal defense and instead is going to rely on enough people buying into dumb conspiracy theories to the exclusion of facts. Good luck with that!

I can't wait for.."It's not a crime if the president does it" or the president's children, or anyone the president approves of today, or when the president was a candidate...
 
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Trump has never had a real legal defense. His lawyers did until they quit. Good thing for him he's not going to be in court over this. Well, probably not for a while anyway.

It's pretty ridiculous, though. Even if you took the standpoint that there would be no investigation without the dossier and that the dossier was funded by crooked Hillary, it doesn't matter one iota. Evidence believed to be credible about major crimes against the US was legally obtained by the FBI. That then lead to more evidence. That's how investigations work.
 
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Fanatical Meat

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VRAMdemon said:
Trump is weighing in on twitter that there should be no Mueller report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ort/ar-BBUOz8v

His basis is that the whole investigation is illegal. Why?.. 2 reasons...

1. When the investigation started, there was no crime! Yanno, In a system in which you are innocent until proven guilty, technically there isn't a crime until the Conclusion of the investigation. Plus, bare assertion! When the report is released we will finally see all the motives for producing it.

2. He' treating the Steele dossier as some kind of linchpin to the whole case, and since Hillary paid for it, it is automatically bogus.

It is looking like Trump has no real legal defense and instead is going to rely on enough people buying into dumb conspiracy theories to the exclusion of facts. Good luck with that!

I can't wait for.."It's not a crime if the president does it" or the president's children, or anyone the president approves of today, or when the president was a candidate...
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Our retarded agent members should be spewing the same line tomorrow morning after watching Hanitty tonight
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
Our retarded agent members should be spewing the same line tomorrow morning after watching Hanitty tonight
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There are really 2 reports
Barr can bar Mueller's special counsel report, but oh yea, there's a counterintelligence investigation also. The counter intelligence investigation has to be reported to congress. Too bad. So sad. I guarantee that the counter intelligence report has got the bigger crimes in it.
 
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VRAMdemon said:
Trump is weighing in on twitter that there should be no Mueller report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ort/ar-BBUOz8v

His basis is that the whole investigation is illegal. Why?.. 2 reasons...

1. When the investigation started, there was no crime! Yanno, In a system in which you are innocent until proven guilty, technically there isn't a crime until the Conclusion of the investigation. Plus, bare assertion! When the report is released we will finally see all the motives for producing it.

2. He' treating the Steele dossier as some kind of linchpin to the whole case, and since Hillary paid for it, it is automatically bogus.

It is looking like Trump has no real legal defense and instead is going to rely on enough people buying into dumb conspiracy theories to the exclusion of facts. Good luck with that!

I can't wait for.."It's not a crime if the president does it" or the president's children, or anyone the president approves of today, or when the president was a candidate...
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He wants to do away with all of the RICO laws that are on the books, is what it sounds like to me.
 
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Trump has never had a real legal defense. His lawyers did until they quit. Good thing for him he's not going to be in court over this. Well, probably not for a while anyway.

It's pretty ridiculous, though. Even if you took the standpoint that there would be no investigation without the dossier and that the dossier was funded by crooked Hillary, it doesn't matter one iota. Evidence believed to be credible about major crimes against the US was legally obtained by the FBI. That then lead to more evidence. That's how investigations work.
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It's almost like his only defense comes down to - "it's not a crime if you don't get caught, and since I wasn't caught while committing it. It doesn't count. "
 
Fanatical Meat

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hal2kilo said:
There are really 2 reports
Barr can bar Mueller's special counsel report, but oh yea, there's a counterintelligence investigation also. The counter intelligence investigation has to be reported to congress. Too bad. So sad. I guarantee that the counter intelligence report has got the bigger crimes in it.
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This and the instant any Democrat Senator or Representative on any panel that may see it will leak the report immediately
I’d guess a few good Republicans would too and if it’s really damning and before the election I’d be Ted Cruz would leak it
 
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VRAMdemon said:
Trump is weighing in on twitter that there should be no Mueller report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ort/ar-BBUOz8v

His basis is that the whole investigation is illegal. Why?.. 2 reasons...

1. When the investigation started, there was no crime! Yanno, In a system in which you are innocent until proven guilty, technically there isn't a crime until the Conclusion of the investigation. Plus, bare assertion! When the report is released we will finally see all the motives for producing it.

2. He' treating the Steele dossier as some kind of linchpin to the whole case, and since Hillary paid for it, it is automatically bogus.

It is looking like Trump has no real legal defense and instead is going to rely on enough people buying into dumb conspiracy theories to the exclusion of facts. Good luck with that!

I can't wait for.."It's not a crime if the president does it" or the president's children, or anyone the president approves of today, or when the president was a candidate...
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He's trying to make the " fruit of the poisonous tree" legal argument.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

Not that it applies to the Steele dossier or to his situation but it's all he's got.
 
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jackstar7

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zinfamous said:
how long before President Foreskin tweets that she used to be so hot but is now old, ugly, and bleeding from her wherevers?
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Curious if this one is actually going to hurt him. He's gotta know she's never gonna be #4 now.
 
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Fanatical Meat

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UNCjigga said:
Hope Hicks, the former White House communications director and long-time confidante of President Donald Trump, plans to turn over documents to the House Judiciary Committee as part of its investigation into potential obstruction of justice.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/20/politics/hope-hicks-house-democratic-investigation/index.html
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I’ve quoted him several times but he’s right again.
As I heard 50 cent say on a light interview last year. Only trust people from the hood. Rich people are too comfortable and have too much to lose going to jail. Dudes from the hood have nothing to lose.
 
zinfamous

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ch33zw1z said:
Great, now boomerang can come back and start asking where the indictments are
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Oh you won't be seeing him no more.

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That's very interesting, but I'm not sure what to make of it. It did also remind me that there are some sealed indictments in Washington D.C. that might be from Mueller, so no more indictments doesn't necessarily mean that we know of everyone facing charges. Regardless, I also wouldn't expect him to indict Trump himself while in office.
 
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soundforbjt

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interchange said:
That's very interesting, but I'm not sure what to make of it. It did also remind me that there are some sealed indictments in Washington D.C. that might be from Mueller, so no more indictments doesn't necessarily mean that we know of everyone facing charges. Regardless, I also wouldn't expect him to indict Trump himself while in office.
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18 sealed indictments if my memory is correct.
 
jackstar7

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zinfamous said:
Deutsche Bank?
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I thought that was already in progress and DB was cooperating... but I suppose we'll find out.

But secrets would certainly get one dipshit really anxious. I almost want to find out Mueller is just trolling Trump via moves like this to see what else spills out of the dumbshit like a crime piñata.
 
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UNCjigga

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zinfamous said:
Deutsche Bank?
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Speculation is that the mystery company is Swiss Salix Services AG, which itself is an entity of Psy Group, which was somehow linked to all of the social media operations of Trump's campaign and may have also served as a conduit for foreign entities to fund those campaign activities.

Psy Group (now defunct) may have been operated by one Joel Zamel, an Israeli intelligence officer. Could be that Israeli intelligence ultimately owned that firm (and Salix) all along, and Zamel was just the name attached to all their shell companies in the Virgin Islands.

Given our current relationship with Israel, you'd understand the veil of secrecy and SCOTUS involvement. Delicate balance between investigating a crime and pissing off our greatest intelligence ally in the Middle East.

edit: Read this for more on Salix/Psy group and how Mueller is untangling the web of companies and contacts to find ultimate ownership: https://medium.com/@ScottMStedman/a...psy-group-scrubs-online-presence-1bbe302199d3

Some speculation it could ultimately be Russia that owns Psy Group too, and not Israel.
 
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The report has been submitted. Prepare for a weekend of non-stop tweets!

Since we know Barr is going to pass on all the useful details.
 
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