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Enough of the Bernie shit. He wasn't cheated. He lost by more regular votes than Clinton did in '08. It's just a tired narrative. Not to mention, he's not even a member of the party he was trying to get the nomination of. In reality, it's the fault of everyone that didn't vote for HRC. Regardless of reason. You see a possible outcome in the form of Trump as president. If you don't do everything within your power to prevent it, it's your fault. Bottom line. And now we're all suffering because of it. And it's only 110-ish days in. Thanks. Now go fuck yourself.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Allow me to point out the error in your response. Not all Trump voters were conservatives. The Dems pissed off the Bernie-bros. And plenty of libertarians didn't care for Hilary either. Enough of those were put off to hold their nose and vote for the orange dude and turn the tide. The left/Dems hold the blame. Ignore reality if you want but facts are facts.
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The fact is Trump won because some people chose to vote for him. That's how elections work. Those people are 100% to blame for his election. If you voted for him, own it.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Thank the Dems for allowing the dipshit to be elected in the first place and for all this to be put in motion. Ignore the facts all you want and try to pretend the GOP is the problem but ultimately it's on everyone that calls themselves a Dem. Congrats. Accept the blame and move on.

Now all of you..piss off yourself. Stop making lame excuses for your poor decisions.
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Wait... did he win the Dem primary? I forget...
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Allow me to point out the error in your response. Not all Trump voters were conservatives. The Dems pissed off the Bernie-bros. And plenty of libertarians didn't care for Hilary either. Enough of those were put off to hold their nose and vote for the orange dude and turn the tide. The left/Dems hold the blame. Ignore reality if you want but facts are facts.
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I've seen enough on this forum to know that most Dems know there is a problem within the party. In fact most people distrust politicians in general. Your point is tedious.

I don't think Dems are unwilling to require more of their representatives but this Trump shiite must be fixed and until then you're damn straight we're going to vent and talk and talk and talk. Talking and venting are an important part of forming or expressing one's opinions and beliefs as well as possibly educating the uninformed.

If you don't like the processes with which others (using this forum) are utilizing to endure this President by all means stop subjecting yourself to it.

You clearly have all the answers. Go now, sit by yourself and know it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Whatever you are trying to do or trying to teach the Dems you are being rejected on every level, it's not just your rampaging through a thread that is repugnant. You say nothing...

Except... Hey Dems, hate yourselves! The End.

Save yourself the trouble because even if by some chickenlickin miracle you get through to those of us you consider to be numbskulls and we agree to hate ourselves Trump will still be the President, his followers by and large will still be hate filled, selfish, greedy assh****. Trump will still need to be removed... I think hating ourselves would make that harder than it has to be.

Suggesting: Ya know, you're one person... you hate you. So much more attainable. Your goal is too lofty. So start with self-loathing then sort you out. Sound like a plan? Certainly i It's more of a solution then anything you've suggested.

Psst... If you're going to go the self-loathing route remember to come out the other side loving yourself and being a better person for it. Come on, try it. It'll so be worth it.
 
The Democratic party has problems like every other political party on earth.

Strongman Trump and the Republican party are batshit insane, have lost touch with all of reality, and are slowly destroying everything they touch.

Which is why it's the Democratic party's fault.

Brilliant logic, yet again, imbecile.

Keep on keepin' on.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Allow me to point out the error in your response. Not all Trump voters were conservatives. The Dems pissed off the Bernie-bros. And plenty of libertarians didn't care for Hilary either. Enough of those were put off to hold their nose and vote for the orange dude and turn the tide. The left/Dems hold the blame. Ignore reality if you want but facts are facts.
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That is some epic rationalization right there.
With that kind of skills you could set out on a serial killer murder spree on kids and 5$ junkie prostitutes while blaming it all on the pope.
 
ch33zw1z said:
I literally discuss personal responsibility with my kids a couple times a week. TLC must need the lecture as well.
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I only have one, but same, the message goes like; own your sh*, your sh* is your sh*. And the upside of owning your own sh* is that you can demand of the people you interact with do the same. Own your own and dont take others on, you will be happier for it.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
To start with, they fucked Bernie over. That doesn't account for all that voted for Trump, but it accounts for enough to explain the Hildabeast losing.

Do you have anything else, Jhhnn?
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Desperate, huh? You merely parrot the right wing agitprop mentioned earlier. Republican voters suffer from Munchausen by proxy perpetrated by their leadership. The rest of us suffer from it as well, just to a lesser degree & in different ways. Your headset is an excellent example.
 
TastesLikeChicken said:
Allow me to point out the error in your response. Not all Trump voters were conservatives. The Dems pissed off the Bernie-bros. And plenty of libertarians didn't care for Hilary either. Enough of those were put off to hold their nose and vote for the orange dude and turn the tide. The left/Dems hold the blame. Ignore reality if you want but facts are facts.
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Obviously it is Democrats' fault. Simple logic dictates that if multiple anonymous sources tell you that Hillary is corrupt on millions of conservative-leaning web pages, it must be true and thus voting for a lying, incompetent, reality TV star is the better option. Also, don't forget that all the fact-checking websites that showed Trump lying more than any other candidate in all of human history is just more proof of how uppity those damn liberals are.
 
It's funny and increasingly tragic how each side wants to blame the other while totally absolving themselves of any accountability whatsoever. If we can't come together, the system will stay just the way it is, which no doubt suits those whom it serves. I'm betting on more of the same, guys.
 
crashtech said:
It's funny and increasingly tragic how each side wants to blame the other while totally absolving themselves of any accountability whatsoever. If we can't come together, the system will stay just the way it is, which no doubt suits those whom it serves. I'm betting on more of the same, guys.
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The whole 'both sides' nonsense is one of the biggest problems facing our political system today. Until people can finally admit that both parties aren't equal, mirror images of one another, we'll never be able to get to the root of the problem.

No party is innocent, but one party is much, much guiltier than the other. It's long past time people had the courage to admit it.
 
crashtech said:
It's funny and increasingly tragic how each side wants to blame the other while totally absolving themselves of any accountability whatsoever. If we can't come together, the system will stay just the way it is, which no doubt suits those whom it serves. I'm betting on more of the same, guys.
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I agree in principle that both sides are shit, but right now only one side is trying to set the house on fire, so I think it's prudent it gets the focus/scrutiny right now.
 
fskimospy said:
The whole 'both sides' nonsense is one of the biggest problems facing our political system today. Until people can finally admit that both parties aren't equal, mirror images of one another, we'll never be able to get to the root of the problem.

No party is innocent, but one party is much, much guiltier than the other. It's long past time people had the courage to admit it.
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The nonsense is failure to realize that we're all part of a whole, and that no individual (nor group of individuals, for that matter) has a foolproof grip on objective truth.
 
crashtech said:
The nonsense is failure to realize that we're all part of a whole, and that no individual (nor group of individuals, for that matter) has a foolproof grip on objective truth.
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So fucking what? Putting positive/negative spin on a story isn't remotely the same thing as lying to your fucking face.
 
dank69 said:
So fucking what? Putting positive/negative spin on a story isn't remotely the same thing as lying to your fucking face.
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Other than swearing at me, what are you trying to say? That the wrongs you agree with are better than the wrongs you don't?
 
crashtech said:
"Literally" is so overused as to have become meaningless. I believe that a people faced with an existential crisis, for example, can easily put aside what are in actuality rather superficial differences.
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You literally cannot find a single post on this forum where someone claims that the Democrats have a foolproof grip on objective truth.
 
crashtech said:
"Literally" is so overused as to have become meaningless. I believe that a people faced with an existential crisis, for example, can easily put aside what are in actuality rather superficial differences.
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I meant it as the word is defined. I do not believe even a single human being on planet earth holds an opinion as you described it.
 
dank69 said:
You literally cannot find a single post on this forum where someone claims that the Democrats have a foolproof grip on objective truth.
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It doesn't have to be said. The overall condescension is palpable. I might provide examples if I had the time and thought it would change anything.
 
fskimospy said:
I meant it as the word is defined. I do not believe even a single human being on planet earth holds an opinion as you described it.
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Seriously? That's a pretty dark view of humanity. I want to see us all as a whole of sorts, we "literally" are that, a race of people that hopefully will get a collective brain before we all kill each other. And certainly I'm cognizant that my truth is my own and not perfect. I wish it was, it would help my ego tremendously.
 
crashtech said:
Seriously? That's a pretty dark view of humanity. I want to see us all as a whole of sorts, we "literally" are that, a race of people that hopefully will get a collective brain before we all kill each other. And certainly I'm cognizant that my truth is my own and not perfect. I wish it was, it would help my ego tremendously.
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You literally have no idea what eskimo is talking about.
 
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