Yeah wow this is a thread that I didn't expect to become as heated as it has.
India is a strange subject because its such a polarizing country. Its like a prism, you can look into it and see something different everytime you look because there are just so many people and so much history and so much everything crammed into a place that frankly has a smaller global influence than one would expect. Its also massive, borders a number of world players, and its somewhat diminished stature belies its geopolitical importance here in the west.
Frankly none of us on the outside, and likely many on the inside, of India are particularly well versed enough to discuss the topic at any sort of meaningful length.
I found the responses from (presumably) Indians living in India to be quite enlightening, important to remember as Americans that we barely can keep our domestic news straight, what hope do we have of the complex realities and internal politics of other nations, especially other large diverse parliamentary democracies.
As a descendant of Indian immigrants, India is definitely a perplexing country from my vantage point. I understand the “brain drain” theory and how my parents were supposedly among the “best and brightest” who left in the 60s/70s to pursue professional careers in the west, and how that may have put India at a slight disadvantage developmentally. But even if all those doctors and engineers had stayed, I don’t think the political situation would have changed much.
Two things stand out to me as fundamental differences between Indians in the west and well-to-do Indians in the mother country. While both put a huge emphasis on academic pursuits, getting good grades, and professional careers—the work ethic just seems different. I think those in the west put a greater emphasis on working diligently/efficiently and with a sense of urgency. When I work with teams in India, that sense of urgency just…isn’t there. I don’t understand it. It’s not that they can’t do the work or aren’t smart—it’s like they just don’t get why something has to be done *now*.
The second thing—I’m always dealing with family members or professional acquaintances in India who LOVE to tell me why India is the best at something or why the Indian Way is better than the American Way. I get it, Desi Pride and all. But the minute I point out something that contradicts their point of view, they just ignore it!
Example: someone once said something to me like “cleanliness in India is a higher standard than cleanliness in the West. The vedas had Ayurvedic recipes for soap and toothpaste and skin cream 1000s of years before Western beauty products” blah blah blah.
Me: No. Just no. India’s still working on modern sewage, basic pollution control, don’t even get me started on recycling etc.
Them: What pollution? Our homes are much cleaner!
Me: *YOUR* home is clean thanks to servants, but what about that shantytown a few miles outside city limits?
Them: Well those people are poor, what do you expect? They live filthy.
Me: Well who’s going to clean up the mess then? It clogs up the open sewers and you can smell it all the minute you go outside! Why not create civil authorities and hire people to keep these things clean?
Them: Nobody wants those jobs now because the lower caste has too much political power and they get preferred placement in all the best government jobs.
Me: So, not your problem then? Got it.