Incorrect phrases you often hear

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: Jdo

Originally posted by: Stifko
I hear a lot of ppl say "irregardless" lately even though that is not a word.

It is

thanks, I would have sworn that was not a word!

read up on it, they added it due to so many people accepting it as a real word, not because it in fact is a real word...

that is how all new words are added. it is a real word.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: mugs
And by the same token, how can you possibly think it's acceptable to refer to Saturday and Sunday as the weekend at all, when Sunday comes at the beginning of the week?

think of a week as a line.

sun-mon-tue-wed-thu-fri-sat

it has 2 ends- sun at one end and sat at the other end.

that is why sun is part of the weekend.

 

[SandEagle]

french benefits
i'm finna get my hair did (seriously heard this a few times)

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: mugs


If you're going to be pedantic and say that the approaching weekend is "next weekend," how can you possibly think it's acceptable to also call it "this weekend." By your reasoning, it would only be acceptable to refer to "this weekend" during the weekend. That's the only time the phrase makes sense if taken literally. And by the same token, how can you possibly think it's acceptable to refer to Saturday and Sunday as the weekend at all, when Sunday comes at the beginning of the week?

To the overwhelming majority of people,
Next weekend = the weekend of next week/the end of next week
This weekend = the weekend of this week/the end of this week

Absolutely. To break it down for those who disagree:

We say "this week" and "next week". Everyone agrees on what these mean.

The end of this week = this weekend.

The end of next week = next weekend.

How anyone can argue with that is madness.

 

[Asparagus]

Actually heard someone pronounce the word "compromise" as "com-prom-iss" once...couldn't believe it!

 

[LtPage1]

Originally posted by: jonks
So my bud was like "for all intensive purposes..." I'm like, what? You mean "intents and purposes"? He's like, yeah. He then reprimanded me for "towing the line" and I could hear the "tow" instead of "toe" in his voice. He was getting annoyed at me now and threatened to "duck tape" my mouth shut. I told him that wouldn't make him correct but he said he'd do it "irregardless". I was only trying to help but he said he "could care less". So I took a queue from him and segwayed to another topic.

:laugh::thumbsup:

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Muse
The ones that I notice are:

Febuary (you hear announcers use that, even).

nucular

Febuary? Are you serious? That is a perfectly acceptable pronunciation.

One that bugs me: Case and point.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Absolutely. To break it down for those who disagree:

We say "this week" and "next week". Everyone agrees on what these mean.

The end of this week = this weekend.

The end of next week = next weekend.

How anyone can argue with that is madness.

I understand what people mean when they say that, but it still doesn't make any sense.

"This weekend" is inappropriate and makes no logical sense unless it is said during the actual weekend.

I mean, what if I was eating lunch at Chipotle talking to a friend and I said "This computer is the one I'm going to rebuild.", or, "This TV is the one I'm going to buy.", while we are eating lunch, he would think I was out of my mind. "This week's end" would make logical sense and everyone would still understand what you are saying, unfortunately it's not spoken that way.

"This weekend" is the only example I can think of where you refer to something that isn't here without defining it as "this".

"Next weekend" means the *next* weekend. For example, if I was talking to a friend and daid I would buy him lunch "next lunch" it would be normal for him to assume I meant the next time we had lunch, the next day. But when people say "next weekend" they don't mean the next weekend, they mean the weekend AFTER the next weekend.


So. I fully understand how the terms are used commonly, however it doesn't change the fact that they are completely illogical and they do not follow common sense or normal grammar rules. I will never use either term myself.


Actually, even saying "this week's end" doesn't make much sense. What we call a weekend is actually half of the end of two different weeks. It is half of the last end of this week (Saturday), plus half of the beginning end of next week (Sunday). So "this week's end" or "next week's end" wouldn't make sense either, because what is commonly considered the weekend is really the ends of two different weeks.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Absolutely. To break it down for those who disagree:

We say "this week" and "next week". Everyone agrees on what these mean.

The end of this week = this weekend.

The end of next week = next weekend.

How anyone can argue with that is madness.

I understand what people mean when they say that, but it still doesn't make any sense.

"This weekend" is inappropriate and makes no logical sense unless it is said during the actual weekend.

I mean, what if I was eating lunch at Chipotle talking to a friend and I said "This computer is the one I'm going to rebuild.", or, "This TV is the one I'm going to buy.", while we are eating lunch, he would think I was out of my mind. "This week's end" would make logical sense and everyone would still understand what you are saying, unfortunately it's not spoken that way.

"This weekend" is the only example I can think of where you refer to something that isn't here without defining it as "this".

"Next weekend" means the *next* weekend. For example, if I was talking to a friend and daid I would buy him lunch "next lunch" it would be normal for him to assume I meant the next time we had lunch, the next day. But when people say "next weekend" they don't mean the next weekend, they mean the weekend AFTER the next weekend.


So. I fully understand how the terms are used commonly, however it doesn't change the fact that they are completely illogical and they do not follow common sense or normal grammar rules. I will never use either term myself.


Actually, even saying "this week's end" doesn't make much sense. What we call a weekend is actually half of the end of two different weeks. It is half of the last end of this week (Saturday), plus half of the beginning end of next week (Sunday). So "this week's end" or "next week's end" wouldn't make sense either, because what is commonly considered the weekend is really the ends of two different weeks.

You compare apples to oranges to somehow support your nonsensical argument and then praise yourself for your non sequitur conclusion and supposed elitism. Congratulations on sounding like a douche.

 

[Rhaze]

Originally posted by: daveymark
super nintendo chalmers

This.

Win.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
You compare apples to oranges to somehow support your nonsensical argument and then praise yourself for your non sequitur conclusion and supposed elitism. Congratulations on sounding like a douche.

Wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning? I don't see how it is apples to oranges.

Saying "this weekend" when it's not the weekend is the exact same as saying "this [anything]" when the anything isn't here and obvious. The only difference is that saying "this weekend" is in common usage so people know what you are talking about, even though it's completely illogical.

 

[Poulsonator]

'This Tuesday I'm going to the ball game.'

'Next Friday I'm going to the concert.'

To me, this phrasing works because you're talking about time/dates/things that aren't tangible.

 

[Chiropteran]

"Next rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

Am I talking about the next time I rebuild my computer, or am I talking about the time *after* the next time I rebuild my computer?

So why does "next weekend" follow different rules?


----


"This rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

"Oh, so you are rebuilding your PC now?"

"No, I mean this coming rebuild... uh when I decide to rebuild my computer next time.."

"So you mean your next rebuild"

"Yes"

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Absolutely. To break it down for those who disagree:

We say "this week" and "next week". Everyone agrees on what these mean.

The end of this week = this weekend.

The end of next week = next weekend.

How anyone can argue with that is madness.

I understand what people mean when they say that, but it still doesn't make any sense.

"This weekend" is inappropriate and makes no logical sense unless it is said during the actual weekend.

I mean, what if I was eating lunch at Chipotle talking to a friend and I said "This computer is the one I'm going to rebuild.", or, "This TV is the one I'm going to buy.", while we are eating lunch, he would think I was out of my mind. "This week's end" would make logical sense and everyone would still understand what you are saying, unfortunately it's not spoken that way.

"This weekend" is the only example I can think of where you refer to something that isn't here without defining it as "this".

"Next weekend" means the *next* weekend. For example, if I was talking to a friend and daid I would buy him lunch "next lunch" it would be normal for him to assume I meant the next time we had lunch, the next day. But when people say "next weekend" they don't mean the next weekend, they mean the weekend AFTER the next weekend.


So. I fully understand how the terms are used commonly, however it doesn't change the fact that they are completely illogical and they do not follow common sense or normal grammar rules. I will never use either term myself.


Actually, even saying "this week's end" doesn't make much sense. What we call a weekend is actually half of the end of two different weeks. It is half of the last end of this week (Saturday), plus half of the beginning end of next week (Sunday). So "this week's end" or "next week's end" wouldn't make sense either, because what is commonly considered the weekend is really the ends of two different weeks.

grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
that is how all new words are added. it is a real word.

Still doesn't mean that irregardless is a worthwhile word as it literally means the same as regardless. In this day where people are lazy enough to shorten "you" to 'u', I'm amazed that they'd want to type two more characters.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

Yes it is. And just like there are people who dislike the use of words like "sucks" and "gay" in the newer alternative meanings, there are people like me who dislike the use of old phrases that are completely illogical but have been in common use so long that most people understand them anyway.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Turin39789
grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

Yes it is. And just like there are people who dislike the use of words like "sucks" and "gay" in the newer alternative meanings, there are people like me who dislike the use of old phrases that are completely illogical but have been in common use so long that most people understand them anyway.

But you will lose, just like the split infinitive people.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
that is how all new words are added. it is a real word.

Still doesn't mean that irregardless is a worthwhile word as it literally means the same as regardless. In this day where people are lazy enough to shorten "you" to 'u', I'm amazed that they'd want to type two more characters.

It sounds like a more robust word and makes the speaker sound more intelligent in his own mind.

I never use the word myself, and I think it sounds stupid unless used properly for comedic reasons, but this is exactly how new words come about. They start out as "not a word" and after being used for years they are eventually put into the dictionary and come into common usage. Dictionaries in 50 years will probably have words like "pwn" "n00b" "roflcopter", and there will be people complaining that they aren't words.

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Turin39789
grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

Yes it is. And just like there are people who dislike the use of words like "sucks" and "gay" in the newer alternative meanings, there are people like me who dislike the use of old phrases that are completely illogical but have been in common use so long that most people understand them anyway.

But you will lose, just like the split infinitive people.

Nonsense.

This isn't an MMO where the person who spends the most time talking wins.

If I never want to use those phrases, guess what? I never use them.

I win.

 

[Scarpozzi]

"It's a mute point." - I heard my supervisor say this in about 5 meetings....I realized it would never end, so I pulled him aside and schooled him. "MOOT"

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Turin39789
grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

Yes it is. And just like there are people who dislike the use of words like "sucks" and "gay" in the newer alternative meanings, there are people like me who dislike the use of old phrases that are completely illogical but have been in common use so long that most people understand them anyway.

But you will lose, just like the split infinitive people.

Nonsense.

This isn't an MMO where the person who spends the most time talking wins.

If I never want to use those phrases, guess what? I never use them.

I win.

Irregardless, I'm carving the word 'irregardless' on your tombstone.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Joemonkey
Just FYI, duck tape does exist as a brand name duct tape

http://www.duckproducts.com/pr...catid=1&subid=1&plid=4

The original name is "Duck Tape" because it was a waterproof tape developed for the military around WW2. It's actually a very poor tape to use for duct work.

 

[jonks]

The irony of "your stupid"

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: jonks
The irony of "your stupid"

um...'ironing'

 

[Scarpozzi]

"greetings and salad dressings"