Incomprehensible mass shooting happens again

[Pens1566]

Good.

Uvalde ended the ridiculous "good guy with a gun" argument.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Good.

Uvalde ended the ridiculous "good guy with a gun" argument.

Uhhh, I dunno about that. I don’t see conservatives letting go of that bs argument anytime soon

 

[Pens1566]

Uhhh, I dunno about that. I don’t see conservatives letting go of that bs argument anytime soon

Of course they do. They also insist the earth is 4000 years old. They are both equally factual.

I was talking about in terms of legit debate.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Of course they do. They also insist the earth is 4000 years old. They are both equally factual.

I was talking about in terms of legit debate.

I’m waiting for the day a legitimate debate will occur. Conservatives talk is rhetorical fallacies

 

[Pens1566]

I’m waiting for the day a legitimate debate will occur. Conservatives talk is rhetorical fallacies

Right. It goes to the point about the debate last night: "how do you debate just and endless stream of lies?"

 

[ch33zw1z]

Right. It goes to the point about the debate last night: "how do you debate just and endless stream of lies?"

Yea I agree. Trump has never been anything other than that. It’s amazing to see conservatives go down this path, but historically…not surprising? Leadership has been grooming them for decades combined with their inability to separate fact from fiction, just ripe for the harvest now

 

[Brainonska511]

Good.

Uvalde ended the ridiculous "good guy with a gun" argument.

Uvalde should also be illuminating from another point of view: maybe we shouldn't have all these little pissant departments across hundreds of municipalities. Bring on the municipal consolidation, especially for some of these services. There could be some potential to be able to enforce better professionalism (lol - as if that was a possibility with police - looking at you MA State Troopers and your various scandals) and training, reduce some of the old boys clubs, and also save money for taxpayers overall.

 

[brycejones]

Uvalde should also be illuminating from another point of view: maybe we shouldn't have all these little pissant departments across hundreds of municipalities. Bring on the municipal consolidation, especially for some of these services. There could be some potential to be able to enforce better professionalism (lol - as if that was a possibility with police - looking at you MA State Troopers and your various scandals) and training, reduce some of the old boys clubs, and also save money for taxpayers overall.

Texas is so in love with law and order, you have Sheriffs, Constables, city police departments, school police departments, the Rangers, State Troopers, and I'm sure I'm missing a few.

The state of freedom sure does love authority figures.

 

[iRONic]

Texas is so in love with law and order, you have Sheriffs, Constables, city police departments, school police departments, the Rangers, State Troopers, and I'm sure I'm missing a few.

The state of freedom sure does love authority figures.

KY FoP members elbow each other out of the way so they can raise their hands to wave to you!

SMFH

And to address out of shape unable to perform their duties officers; their admins have relaxed their standards so low because they cannot fill positions.

Same reasons they don't consolidate small districts; no money! Well, that and Billie Joe Don has all of his relatives voting for him as a sheriff in East Bumfuk county.

 

[Pens1566]

Uvalde should also be illuminating from another point of view: maybe we shouldn't have all these little pissant departments across hundreds of municipalities. Bring on the municipal consolidation, especially for some of these services. There could be some potential to be able to enforce better professionalism (lol - as if that was a possibility with police - looking at you MA State Troopers and your various scandals) and training, reduce some of the old boys clubs, and also save money for taxpayers overall.

"Why are we arming the local sheriff deputies like they're the revolutionary militia in some war-torn central african country if they're not going to use it when necessary?"

 

[Brainonska511]

"Why are we arming the local sheriff deputies like they're the revolutionary militia in some war-torn central african country if they're not going to use it when necessary?"

For many local departments, "when necessary" comes up plenty of times. It just means (to them) arresting minorities and other people they don't like.

 

[Pens1566]

For many local departments, "when necessary" comes up plenty of times. It just means (to them) arresting minorities and other people they don't like.

Hey, those 103 shots into the back of someone pulled over for window tint aren't gonna get there on their own ...

 

[HomerJS]

Texas is so in love with law and order, you have Sheriffs, Constables, city police departments, school police departments, the Rangers, State Troopers, and I'm sure I'm missing a few.

The state of freedom sure does love authority figures.

Didn’t help students in Uvalde

 

[brycejones]

Didn’t help students in Uvalde

Nope, nor other victims of mass shootings in Texas.

But maybe if we hire just another 10,000 police officers, then gun violence can be addressed. /s

 

[igor_kavinski]

'He did nothing wrong': Family of Texas entrepreneur fatally shot by police say he was defending his home

Austin police shot Rajan Moonesinghe on Nov. 15 as he held a rifle on his own porch. His family told NBC News he thought his home was burglarized and say police did not provide enough warning.

www.nbcnews.com

An insight into their "training" : Shout "drop the gun" and without waiting, shoot three times!

Video from Sanchez’s body camera shows the officer exiting his vehicle with what appears to be a rifle. He shouts "drop the gun" and then fires three rounds followed by two others.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Mugshot Released of Ex-Uvalde Police Chief After Arrest for Student Deaths​

Former Uvalde police chief Pete Arrendondo was arrested and charged with child endangerment/abandonment.



That's what they came up with?

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[APU_Fusion]

50% of the country’s voters don’t care about mass shooting. For them, it is a feature, not a bug. Nothing will change except the continued lessening of any regulations.

 

[soulcougher73]

Uvalde School Shooting Response Failures Will 'Set Back Law Enforcement 20 Years' - The Truth About Guns

By Lindsay Whitehurst, AP A total of 376 officers converged on Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas — more than the entire police force in a midsize American city like Fort Lauderdale, Florida, or Tempe, Arizona. But for more than 70 minutes on May 24, not one stopped the shooter. Amid the...

www.thetruthaboutguns.com

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I think that's the crux of the problem. Why have lazy people on the job if fitness is super critical to carrying out their duties? And I might catch some flak for saying this (because I don't know what a filter is because it doesn't exist in my mind), but I've noticed that fat people are more concerned about staying alive than normal people. They are more likely to visit doctors for even trivial issues. It's like they think eating is life and oh so wonderful and it can't lead to an early death because it's oh so natural to eat so they ignore that as a potential source of health issues and focus on everything else (I don't know why I keep getting fat! I only eat three times a day! <<< this from a real guy who does not exercise and has a sedentary job and who is so immobile that he will wait until the last minute to get up and go to the washroom).

Don’t need to run after a perp when you can just shoot them in the back.

 

[outriding]

"Why are we arming the local sheriff deputies like they're the revolutionary militia in some war-torn central african country if they're not going to use it when necessary?"

On the flip side we get a response like the acorn incident

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Good.

Uvalde ended the ridiculous "good guy with a gun" argument.

I'm not sure how it would end that argument when there was not in fact a good guy with a gun.

 

[Pens1566]

I'm not sure how it would end that argument when there was not in fact a good guy with a gun.

Officer Adrian Gonzalez was present, in the building, heard gunshots, and did nothing. Then another 100+ officers arrived and also did nothing for over an hour. That's plenty of "good guys with guns".

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Officer Adrian Gonzalez was present, in the building, heard gunshots, and did nothing. Then another 100+ officers arrived and also did nothing for over an hour. That's plenty of "good guys with guns".

Not a single good guy was there with a gun. Unless you feel that Officer Gonzalez is a good guy.

And I can't hold it back anymore: every time I see your name I think it is saying something different than it is. 😛

 

[igor_kavinski]

Maybe next time they should call in the SWAT team or military or marines instead of donut-loving patrol officers who would rather sit in their cars and only arrest unarmed citizens and maybe even shoot them coz they felt "threatened".

 

[Pens1566]

Not a single good guy was there with a gun. Unless you feel that Officer Gonzalez is a good guy.

And I can't hold it back anymore: every time I see your name I think it is saying something different than it is. 😛

Oh, now I get what you meant.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I'm not sure how it would end that argument when there was not in fact a good guy with a gun.

-Checkmate Atheists