Inception Sucked

[Farang]

I'm surprised at the agreement. I felt the need to say something because places like Rotten Tomatoes rates this thing so highly and usually I'm not this far out of step with them.

For as bad as I thought this movie was for some reason I think it will be more memorable than most. I've certainly been more interested in discussing it than most other movies I see. I think they tried something great and original and it just failed, so its a good bad movie if that makes sense.What I mean is its not Gigli.

 

[TheAdvocate]

http://www.familyguyfiles.com/peter-hates-the-godfather-video

 

[Cogman]

I didn't think it was a terrible movie.. That being said, I fell asleep both times watching it.

It was strictly an OK movie, but not something that I would put in the category of a classic.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

I'm late to say this, but Inception sucked. How all the critics loved it is beyond me.

Interesting idea, poor execution. Plot holes abound. A small example is finding a chemical engineering expert in Mombasa, who in a pinch can adjust his sedative to not affect the inner ear so that the fall can work. Why even mention this? Why introduce the plot hole to only give an unreasonable explanation to its solution?

It seems the entire film is based upon trying to justify plot holes. The whole time I'm being told why this or that is happening, according to the situation.

I like Ellen Page. But what is she doing in this movie? Is she a love interest for Cobb? No, that's sort of creepy because she looks like she's a teenager. Arthur steals a kiss but that's all there is. There was no lead up or follow through. Page's character appears out of nowhere but is given ultimate access to Cobb's mind.

The driver of the plot. Some wealthy Japanese man who apparently has the power, with his cell phone, to drop U.S. murder charges and international arrest warrants within minutes. MINUTES.

Why didn't Cobb just get plane tickets for his kids as well? He seems wealthy enough, and not tied down (obviously he couldn't be too tied down to have escaped with his wife to a dream state for 50 years).

Finally the overall premise just doesn't make sense. We're dreaming together, yet what I'm doing away from your perspective affects your dream. For example shooting guards at the compound where you can't see, or dropping chloroform on your hood in the van. In the dream state aren't we depending on psychological reactions? If you don't know I'm doing that, how does it affect you? I'm sure one of the actors gave a one-sentence explanation for this plot hole like they did all the others.

The movie was way overrate, but it didn't suck.

Also, this line is the dumbest shit I've ever read.

"(obviously he couldn't be too tied down to have escaped with his wife to a dream state for 50 years)."

He was stuck down there for 50 years, relative to him and his wife. They were only asleep for a few hours in REAL time.

I don't think you understood the film, which is really sad because the film was simple. It wasn't hard to undestand at all.

But I do agree with the Ellen Page comment, why was she in this movie?

 

[Farang]

The movie was way overrate, but it didn't suck.

Also, this line is the dumbest shit I've ever read.

"(obviously he couldn't be too tied down to have escaped with his wife to a dream state for 50 years)."

He was stuck down there for 50 years, relative to him and his wife. They were only asleep for a few hours in REAL time.

I don't think you understood the film, which is really sad because the film was simple. It wasn't hard to undestand at all.

But I do agree with the Ellen Page comment, why was she in this movie?

You're the second person to misunderstand what I'm saying there.

Regardless of whether or not it is only a few hours in real life, you are going to have to wait 50 years to return to your real life. If you are tied down to family, friends, work, etc., you will not want to put a 50 year gap between now and when you see them again. Practically speaking you are leaving them for 50 years, the only consequence removed is aging.

So obviously he didn't give a shit about anything except her, and then later their children. So why not just fly the kids out to France and live there, apparently money is not a problem.

I'm not one to nitpick but when there are so many things wrong, including basic character motivations, it makes you look at everything skeptically. I don't see any motivation for Cobb to take this mission.

 

[Hacp]

Inception is one of those movies where you shouldn't think. Just enjoy it. Let leo sell the movie to you. He's very good at making crappy plots believable. Just don't overthink it or else you'll see how bad the actual script is. Enjoy the action scenes and the twists and the turns.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

You're the second person to misunderstand what I'm saying there.

Regardless of whether or not it is only a few hours in real life, you are going to have to wait 50 years to return to your real life. If you are tied down to family, friends, work, etc., you will not want to put a 50 year gap between now and when you see them again. Practically speaking you are leaving them for 50 years, the only consequence removed is aging.

So obviously he didn't give a shit about anything except her, and then later their children. So why not just fly the kids out to France and live there, apparently money is not a problem.

I'm not one to nitpick but when there are so many things wrong, including basic character motivations, it makes you look at everything skeptically. I don't see any motivation for Cobb to take this mission.

He didn't want to be down there for 50 years! Why do you think he did inception on his wife to get out?

And after they wake up, it wouldn't feel like 50 years have passed, it would just seem like a dream. Which it was.

 

[WildHorse]

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[Fingolfin269]

This is an old thread but still... Inception did not suck.

 

[OutHouse]

i fell asleep both times i tried to watch it.

 

[foghorn67]

His Australian accent was just fine in BD.

His Bahstan accent was spot on in The Departed.

are you confusing him with Cameron Diaz's groan-worthy attempts at an Irish accent in Gangs of New York?

Great Afrikaner accent in Blood Diamond as well.

 

[0roo0roo]

I dunno man, I thought it was a pretty good movie.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Man you really missed it.
What you mis-label "plot holes" are intentional CLUES for we-the- audience to the fact that he's lost in a dream but doesn't realize it.
Lots of implausible stuff like when that guy buys a whole airline company overnight, etc.

In the movie his wife realized their true circumstance and tried to tell him, but he refused to listen to her good advice.

That's NOT bad writing, it's GOOD writing intentionally giving many obvious clues (which are the implausible things) to the fact that he's lost inside a dream, probably several levels down. We the audience realize it but he doesn't.

lol.

 

[evident]

inception was more enjoyable than dark knight.

 

[Gibson486]

Man you really missed it.
What you mis-label "plot holes" are intentional CLUES for we-the- audience to the fact that he's lost in a dream but doesn't realize it.
Lots of implausible stuff like when that guy buys a whole airline company overnight, etc.

In the movie his wife realized their true circumstance and tried to tell him, but he refused to listen to her good advice.

That's NOT bad writing, it's GOOD writing intentionally giving many obvious clues (which are the implausible things) to the fact that he's lost inside a dream, probably several levels down. We the audience realize it but he doesn't.

really? I thought it was that the wife did not realize the reality...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I thought it was decent but disappointing. I've loved pretty much all of Christopher Nolen's other movies (Following, Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige, Dark Knight), and had high hopes for Inception, which has a great cast and apparently a fairly large budget. Ultimately I found it a little dull since I didn't care much about any of the characters - it just felt like a slightly interesting idea drawn out into an overblown, overlong feature.

My feeling is that the reason many people said they loved Inception is that they felt they would sound dumb if they didn't like it. For what it's worth I had no difficulty processing and following the movie (something some viewers seem to take unwarranted pride in), I just didn't really care about it.

 

[mugs]

I thought it was decent but disappointing. I've loved pretty much all of Christopher Nolen's other movies (Following, Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige, Dark Knight), and had high hopes for Inception, which has a great cast and apparently a fairly large budget. Ultimately I found it a little dull since I didn't care much about any of the characters - it just felt like a slightly interesting idea drawn out into an overblown, overlong feature.

My feeling is that the reason many people said they loved Inception is that they felt they would sound dumb if they didn't like it. For what it's worth I had no difficulty processing and following the movie (something some viewers seem to take unwarranted pride in), I just didn't really care about it.

Nailed it.

 

[gorcorps]

I'm late to say this, but Inception sucked. How all the critics loved it is beyond me.

Interesting idea, poor execution. Plot holes abound. A small example is finding a chemical engineering expert in Mombasa, who in a pinch can adjust his sedative to not affect the inner ear so that the fall can work. Why even mention this? Why introduce the plot hole to only give an unreasonable explanation to its solution?

It seems the entire film is based upon trying to justify plot holes. The whole time I'm being told why this or that is happening, according to the situation.

I like Ellen Page. But what is she doing in this movie? Is she a love interest for Cobb? No, that's sort of creepy because she looks like she's a teenager. Arthur steals a kiss but that's all there is. There was no lead up or follow through. Page's character appears out of nowhere but is given ultimate access to Cobb's mind.

The driver of the plot. Some wealthy Japanese man who apparently has the power, with his cell phone, to drop U.S. murder charges and international arrest warrants within minutes. MINUTES.

Why didn't Cobb just get plane tickets for his kids as well? He seems wealthy enough, and not tied down (obviously he couldn't be too tied down to have escaped with his wife to a dream state for 50 years).

Finally the overall premise just doesn't make sense. We're dreaming together, yet what I'm doing away from your perspective affects your dream. For example shooting guards at the compound where you can't see, or dropping chloroform on your hood in the van. In the dream state aren't we depending on psychological reactions? If you don't know I'm doing that, how does it affect you? I'm sure one of the actors gave a one-sentence explanation for this plot hole like they did all the others.

This sentence right here tells me you weren't paying attention and/or didn't get it.

 

[SP33Demon]

You're the second person to misunderstand what I'm saying there.

Regardless of whether or not it is only a few hours in real life, you are going to have to wait 50 years to return to your real life. If you are tied down to family, friends, work, etc., you will not want to put a 50 year gap between now and when you see them again. Practically speaking you are leaving them for 50 years, the only consequence removed is aging.

So obviously he didn't give a shit about anything except her, and then later their children. So why not just fly the kids out to France and live there, apparently money is not a problem.

I'm not one to nitpick but when there are so many things wrong, including basic character motivations, it makes you look at everything skeptically. I don't see any motivation for Cobb to take this mission.

How the fck is Cobb going to get the grandparents agree to let the kids leave to live with their felon father? Do you really think the Feds wouldn't be wiring those kids up to catch Cobb? The only way for Cobb to see his kids is either get legally cleared, or sneak into the country to visit them in secret. Did you even watch the entire movie?

 

[Icepick]

I enjoyed inception and believe that if you don't take it too seriously and accept it for what it is (pure fantasy) then you'll like it too.

 

[andylawcc]

Anything with Tom Hardy has my stamp of approval.


I mean, seriously. Watch Bronson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKC-FKGMeCY

whao, that's a strong win.

 

[WildHorse]

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[yllus]

It was well-shot and I like many of the cast members, but I didn't really understand why it got as many plaudits as it did. Maybe the problem was I had very recently seen The Prestige for the first time, which in my opinion is the Nolan movie, and one of the best I've ever seen. In Inception it just didn't feel like the events of the movie could possibly turn out badly.

 

[HendrixFan]

A few times he did that to move up one level within the multileveled dreamscape, but he never moved all the way up and out to the plane of normal everyday reality.

His wife realized they were in a dream and jumped to her "wake-up shock" of hitting the bottom of her supposed fall. She got out that way but he refused to follow her, deluded that he knew better. But she was right and he was wrong.

All throughout the movie the really implausible things are intentional clues that he's the deluded one who's lost within the multilevel dreamscape.

Watch the movie again, that simply isn't true. The script was revised a few times before shooting after Leo was signed on to give the story more "heart". The crux of the story was a redemption for Cobb because even though he didn't kill his wife, he killed his wife. After repeated viewings the emotional bond you feel with Cobb is increased because you understand his motivations and what he is going through.

There is plenty of good analysis on the web that breaks down details in the movie that show the whole movie was not a dream.

For others in this thread, Ellen Page's character was necessary for the viewer. Her type of character is pretty standard for exposition and introducing complicated ideas to a viewer (or reader if the character is in a book). She is new to the inception deal, so everyone has to show her what is going on and explain things to her. The explanations are really for the audience though.

 

[yh125d]

whao, that's a strong win.

Yeah, it's pretty fantastic.