In response to some *assertions*....

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard
Oh, I was mistaken when I thought you were just uninformed on those issues. It didn't dawn on me that your responses..."Do you have anything besides rhetoric?"...weren't really asking for information, but rather denying all of the points raised.

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

Maybe people just understanding things...

DM - no - I started this thread because Junkie plopped that big turd of a rant in the middle of a different thread and then proceeded to whine about me not addressing those points. I repeatedly told him that those "issues" have been discussed in various threads but he doesn't seem to want to discuss the actual "issues" he brought up. I put this thread here so I could "respond" to his rant and to show how his rant was full of rhetoric and few details and if he really wanted to discuss those items to again find the appropriate threads for such things but if he wanted to continue to rant or play the rhetoric game - this is the thread for it.

If you don't understand then maybe it should be you, DM, who "should probably run along now"

conjur - yes - you threw links at them. IF you want to discuss the items - find the damn threads like I've been saying since junkie plopped that turd in you religious envirnmentalist thread.

Meh - I'm done with my kitchen repairs/painting. Anyone want to see pics?

CkG

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

face it CAD your wrong and you know it. There are links that provide PROOF to the statements that everyone is making. The links provide everything that you need. Just click them and read, simple as that. Then you'll see how wrong you are.

 

[Moonbeam]

My dad explained schmos to me when I was a kid. It's was a rubbery vinyl thingi that maybe looked like clown a you punched with sand in the bottom. So you punched it and it went down, but popped right back up. That's Caddy, I'm afraid. He just pops back up like a collapsed marionette martinet, or schmo. It has to do with having a light head and a lead bottom. You can punch it again and again, but it always just pots back up cause you're basically punching air.

 

[Gaard]

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why you went to the trouble of agreeing or else offering a rebuttal to some of the points raised, but those others you simply call worthless rhetoric. Why is that CAD?

Why am I not suprised this drivel came from her She is just another one of those people who never accept that they are wrong(or even could possibly be wrong).

"Whoops. My bad."
It neither hurts nor makes you any less of a man. Really.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
face it CAD your wrong and you know it. There are links that provide PROOF to the statements that everyone is making. The links provide everything that you need. Just click them and read, simple as that. Then you'll see how wrong you are.

Face it Sudheer Anne - your reading and comprehension skills need help or you are chosing to not pay attention. Hooked on phonics or this might help.

Do you not follow the point of this thread? Or are you just purposefully ignoring that?

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why you went to the trouble of agreeing or else offering a rebuttal to some of the points raised, but those others you simply call worthless rhetoric. Why is that CAD?

Why am I not suprised this drivel came from her She is just another one of those people who never accept that they are wrong(or even could possibly be wrong).

"Whoops. My bad."
It neither hurts nor makes you any less of a man. Really.

Ah yes -another one who doesn't seem to understand even though I've spelled it out from the start. My responses we because bleater boy Junkie was whining in the other thread about me not responsding to his turd. Now the point of this thread was to show bleater boy that his post was a bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread which nothing to do with those supposed issues.
Now again - if people want to actually discuss the supposed "issues" there are plenty of threads dealing with those specific topics. But if you wish to spew rhetoric and general accusations then this is your thread

Got it yet gaard?
Oh and that quote wasn't directed toward Sudheer Anne(nor conjur, junkie, DM, and etc ), it was made towards Pelosi i believe(i'd have to check the archives to make sure it was her).

CkG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
My dad explained schmos to me when I was a kid. It's was a rubbery vinyl thingi that maybe looked like clown a you punched with sand in the bottom. So you punched it and it went down, but popped right back up. That's Caddy, I'm afraid. He just pops back up like a collapsed marionette martinet, or schmo. It has to do with having a light head and a lead bottom. You can punch it again and again, but it always just pots back up cause you're basically punching air.

Actually moonie, I never returned the mirror when I borrowed it the other day. So what you were actually looking at was you Ofcourse you won't understand that because you seem to think you are invisible or don't "cast" a reflection but alas it is true. It was you looking at yourself all along...

CkG

 

[Gaard]

No, I don't get it yet. Why did you take the time, in your first post, to offer a rebuttal to some of his craps, but others you just called rhetoric? If we followed the logic/reasoning that you've just stated was your purpose for this thread, why not just call it all rhetoric?

Oh, and I know that quote wasn't pointed at anyone in this thread. I just find it ironic that you said this about anybody...so I like to post it in appropiate threads.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard
No, I don't get it yet. Why did you take the time, in your first post, to offer a rebuttal to some of his craps, but others you just called rhetoric? If we followed the logic/reasoning that you've just stated was your purpose for this thread, why not just call it all rhetoric?

I told you - he was whining about it in the other thread

Now just imagine what you, DM, conjur, junkie, et al. would be ranting about if I didn't address each supposed point he ranted about? That's right...the accusations would be flying "why can't you address his points?" :roll: Well I did broadly address(in approx the same detail as he used) the points he thinks are "issues".

Got it yet mr.questions?

CkG

PS - no one wants to see my handy work?... *sniff*

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
No, I don't get it yet. Why did you take the time, in your first post, to offer a rebuttal to some of his craps, but others you just called rhetoric? If we followed the logic/reasoning that you've just stated was your purpose for this thread, why not just call it all rhetoric?

I told you - he was whining about it in the other thread

Now just imagine what you, DM, conjur, junkie, et al. would be ranting about if I didn't address each supposed point he ranted about? That's right...the accusations would be flying "why can't you address his points?" :roll: Well I did broadly address(in approx the same detail as he used) the points he thinks are "issues".

Got it yet mr.questions?

CkG

PS - no one wants to see my handy work?... *sniff*

LOL
Sheesh, this is like Bush answering the 'Why are you and Cheney testifying together' question.

Mr. Questions wants to know..."Why did you respond/rebut/agree to some of his points, but simply called other points rhetoric?" Why not respond/rebut/agree with all of them...or simply call all of it rhetoric?

And don't give me..."Because they want to ask us questions, and I look forward to answering them."

 

[Gaard]

? When Bush first took office, he said the economy was so good we should have huge tax cuts, but now he claims we were in a recession then and that is why we now have record deficits.

Huh? During the 2000 Campaign Bush warned the economy was losing strength. Go back and educate yourself. Yes the recession hurt the economy and our fiscal health. Do you really think INCREASING the tax burden on people would have helped the economy?

quote:


? Candidate Bush was very vocal in his criticism of nation building, but now President Bush is busy building nations in Afghanistan, Iraq, and it looks like Haiti is next. These nations are being built with our soldier?s lives and our tax dollars.

And? Do you not see how our world view has changed since 9/11? I do. I don't think "Nation building" should be our goal but we have to do it when necessary. So is it your contention that we shouldn't have gone into Afghanistan and Iraq thus allowing a breeding ground of terrorism and a murderous dictator, who played the world for years, inplace?

quote:


? Bush claimed his budget plan would reduce the National Debt. Instead, the federal debt has increased to almost $7 trillion.

? Which budget? Before or after the tech bubble burst and 9/11 happened? Anyway - if you'd ever read what I've posted here you'd see that I am VERY pissed about the level of spending the FEDs do. We don't need our gov't spending 2.4+ TRILLION every year just to run but some people here think we need to and infact seem to want to increase spending.


See how you offered a response to these? Why did you take the time to do that with these points and simply call other points rhetoric and broad accussations?

 

[DealMonkey]

I think Cad's been sniffing too many paint fumes ... perhaps he needs to get outside and breathe in some fresh air. Then he can come back in and answer his questions.

[post your pix Cad - I hope you didn't go with a "country kitchen" theme w/ decorative plates on the walls. ]

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
No, I don't get it yet. Why did you take the time, in your first post, to offer a rebuttal to some of his craps, but others you just called rhetoric? If we followed the logic/reasoning that you've just stated was your purpose for this thread, why not just call it all rhetoric?

I told you - he was whining about it in the other thread

Now just imagine what you, DM, conjur, junkie, et al. would be ranting about if I didn't address each supposed point he ranted about? That's right...the accusations would be flying "why can't you address his points?" :roll: Well I did broadly address(in approx the same detail as he used) the points he thinks are "issues".

Got it yet mr.questions?

CkG

PS - no one wants to see my handy work?... *sniff*

LOL
Sheesh, this is like Bush answering the 'Why are you and Cheney testifying together' question.

Mr. Questions wants to know..."Why did you respond/rebut/agree to some of his points, but simply called other points rhetoric?" Why not respond/rebut/agree with all of them...or simply call all of it rhetoric?

And don't give me..."Because they want to ask us questions, and I look forward to answering them."

Maybe because sometimes his items actually had some detail instead of just broad based rhetoric. Like I said - I replied in approx the same detail(on the whole) as what his original rant had. Is it that hard for you to understand? sheesh

CkG

PS -start1 start2 (after removing two sections of cupboard) - drywall replaced - Finished with texture rolled over entire kitchen.. So not only can I repaint/repair my entire kitchen(with help from my father-in-law) - I can effectively keep you all at bay while doing it edit - camera timestamp is off a bit

 

[Gaard]

Maybe because sometimes his items actually had some detail instead of just broad based rhetoric. Like I said - I replied in approx the same detail(on the whole) as what his original rant had. Is it that hard for you to understand? sheesh

Well, one just has to go back and look at your first post to see if this is true or not.

Me, I think I'll stop swimming upstream for a while.

Why am I not suprised this drivel came from her She is just another one of those people who never accept that they are wrong(or even could possibly be wrong).

:beer:

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
My dad explained schmos to me when I was a kid. It's was a rubbery vinyl thingi that maybe looked like clown a you punched with sand in the bottom. So you punched it and it went down, but popped right back up. That's Caddy, I'm afraid. He just pops back up like a collapsed marionette martinet, or schmo. It has to do with having a light head and a lead bottom. You can punch it again and again, but it always just pots back up cause you're basically punching air.

Actually moonie, I never returned the mirror when I borrowed it the other day. So what you were actually looking at was you Ofcourse you won't understand that because you seem to think you are invisible or don't "cast" a reflection but alas it is true. It was you looking at yourself all along...

CkG

It would have been easier just to go "boing" You tell Caddy he's defensive and he says "I am not."

 

[TechJunkie95242]

Ok, here are my sources....

cnn.com
DNC
americanprogress

I didn't just make these up you know..
I read up on a lot of the Bush flip flops from various newspapers, magazines, and news programs on television.

But you will dismiss this as rhetoric and thats ok I know the truth

 

[chowderhead]

Kerry has changed his position on many issues. GWB and his campaign have spent millions attacking him for his "flip-flops." You (CAD) started a thread on Kerry "for/against" many things.

People are simply pointing out the MANY things that GWB was for/against and the positions that he took that changed over time. You say these are just broad accusations, and yet these are specific instances where GWB has done a flip-flop.

Kerry = flip-flopper
GWB = flip-flopper

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Oh, I was mistaken when I thought you were just uninformed on those issues. It didn't dawn on me that your responses..."Do you have anything besides rhetoric?"...weren't really asking for information, but rather denying all of the points raised.

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

Maybe people just understanding things...

I understand CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY got pwned.

 

[TechJunkie95242]

lol ldir, good one

 

[PrinceofWands]

You know, I'm so tired of the same blind devotees to both sides ignoring arguments from their opposition that I'm about ready to off the pres just to end all debate on him (no, really, that's my only reason, honest). If he ain't livin, he ain't causing grief in P&N.

*sigh* alas, my impecable moral fortitude prevents me from actually doing such a thing (unless he does something MONUMENTALLY anti-American). I can dream though. And learn to ignore these debates.

hmmmm, now that I think about it, with the secret service investigating kids drawing nicolae unflatteringly, this post should definately raise an eyebrow. Oh well.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Oh, I was mistaken when I thought you were just uninformed on those issues. It didn't dawn on me that your responses..."Do you have anything besides rhetoric?"...weren't really asking for information, but rather denying all of the points raised.

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

Maybe people just understanding things...

I understand CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY got pwned.

:roll: right :roll:

Like I said - I'll be more that happy to address the supposed "issues" junkie ranted about in their appropriate threads. So go ahead and practice your rhetorics and kiddie lingo here I don't mind

CkG

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Oh, I was mistaken when I thought you were just uninformed on those issues. It didn't dawn on me that your responses..."Do you have anything besides rhetoric?"...weren't really asking for information, but rather denying all of the points raised.

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

Maybe people just understanding things...

I understand CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY got pwned.

:roll: right :roll:

Like I said - I'll be more that happy to address the supposed "issues" junkie ranted about in their appropriate threads. So go ahead and practice your rhetorics and kiddie lingo here I don't mind

CkG

ROFL. Why do so many people poke fun at poor Cad? I think the answer may lie in this song. For some reason, it popped into mind when I read his post. It's not just the title; the lyrics seem oddly appropriate too.

(CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY! I love it. )

 

[UltraQuiet]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
You know, I'm so tired of the same blind devotees to both sides ignoring arguments from their opposition that I'm about ready to off the pres just to end all debate on him (no, really, that's my only reason, honest). If he ain't livin, he ain't causing grief in P&N.

*sigh* alas, my impecable moral fortitude prevents me from actually doing such a thing (unless he does something MONUMENTALLY anti-American). I can dream though. And learn to ignore these debates.

hmmmm, now that I think about it, with the secret service investigating kids drawing nicolae unflatteringly, this post should definately raise an eyebrow. Oh well.

Just in case anyone missed it the first time. It's her usual gem.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Ldir

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Gaard
Oh, I was mistaken when I thought you were just uninformed on those issues. It didn't dawn on me that your responses..."Do you have anything besides rhetoric?"...weren't really asking for information, but rather denying all of the points raised.

No, you see - I wasn't denying per se, just stating that those comments are worthless by themselves. You know... The point of this thread A bunch of accusations full of rhetoric put into one giant rant which was stuck in the middle of a thread that had nothing to do with those supposed issues.

Maybe people just understanding things...

I understand CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY got pwned.

:roll: right :roll:

Like I said - I'll be more that happy to address the supposed "issues" junkie ranted about in their appropriate threads. So go ahead and practice your rhetorics and kiddie lingo here I don't mind

CkG

ROFL. Why do so many people poke fun at poor Cad? I think the answer may lie in this song. For some reason, it popped into mind when I read his post. It's not just the title; the lyrics seem oddly appropriate too.

(CAD-foragainst-kindaGUY! I love it. )

YaY - Bow is practicing too! I knew the king of rhetoric would show up again. You are dangerously close to loosing your crown again Bow. Better get to work...

CkG

 

[TechJunkie95242]

In Cads mine rhetoric against Bush=truth. He just doesn't want to face up to reality so he just ignores it.