In case you were wondering what the left really thinks about Katrina.

[Lanyap]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Katrina: Yes, You CAN Blame Bush

I'm still not sure why New Orleans, which pulls in a *lot* of money during events such as Mardi Gras, just sat around collectively wringing their hands when the Corps of Engineers budget was reduced. Why not add an extra tax for hotel rooms, and dump that money into repairing / extending the levees?

Interesting that the new leeves are the ones that failed. More money wouldn't have helped. A good disaster plan from the Mayor and the Govenor would have!

I was watching an interview with the Governor of TX tonight and the news person asked how they were able to provide the outstanding assistance for the NOLA refugees. He explained that after 9/11 they did a lot of extensive planning for disasters including weather related. I'm watching TV now and they just asked one of the TX disaster planners when they started planning this particular effort. They started Weds at 4am. TX has their disaster stuff together.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Lanyap

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Katrina: Yes, You CAN Blame Bush

I'm still not sure why New Orleans, which pulls in a *lot* of money during events such as Mardi Gras, just sat around collectively wringing their hands when the Corps of Engineers budget was reduced. Why not add an extra tax for hotel rooms, and dump that money into repairing / extending the levees?

Interesting that the new leeves are the ones that failed. More money wouldn't have helped. A good disaster plan from the Mayor and the Govenor would have!

I was watching an interview with the Governor of TX tonight and the news person asked how they were able to provide the outstanding assistance for the NOLA refugees. He explained that after 9/11 they did a lot of extensive planning for disasters including weather related. I'm watching TV now and they just asked one of the TX disaster planners when they started planning this particular effort. They started Weds at 4am. TX has their disaster stuff together.

That's why the Astrodome is turning into the Superdome all over again? Toilets not flushing, fights over cots, people being turned away as it's filled up sooner than expected?

 

[Lanyap]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Lanyap

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Katrina: Yes, You CAN Blame Bush

I'm still not sure why New Orleans, which pulls in a *lot* of money during events such as Mardi Gras, just sat around collectively wringing their hands when the Corps of Engineers budget was reduced. Why not add an extra tax for hotel rooms, and dump that money into repairing / extending the levees?

Interesting that the new leeves are the ones that failed. More money wouldn't have helped. A good disaster plan from the Mayor and the Govenor would have!

I was watching an interview with the Governor of TX tonight and the news person asked how they were able to provide the outstanding assistance for the NOLA refugees. He explained that after 9/11 they did a lot of extensive planning for disasters including weather related. I'm watching TV now and they just asked one of the TX disaster planners when they started planning this particular effort. They started Weds at 4am. TX has their disaster stuff together.

That's why the Astrodome is turning into the Superdome all over again? Toilets not flushing, fights over cots, people being turned away as it's filled up sooner than expected?

You're always going to have some problems like that in this type of situation no matter where you send a large number of people but it's a hell of a lot better than being in the Superdome. Astrodome has maintenance people on site, lot's of volunteers, security, food and medical assistance to handle these issues. You're really stretching here...

 

[klah]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca...y?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Thursday that a lack of funding for hurricane-protection projects around New Orleans did not contribute to the disastrous flooding that followed Hurricane Katrina.

In a telephone interview with reporters, corps officials said that although portions of the flood-protection levees remain incomplete, the levees near Lake Pontchartrain that gave way?inundating much of the city?were completed and in good condition before the hurricane.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How come nobody ever blames the hurricane?

I quit actively participating in this particular forum for several reasons. One of which was an apparent lack of people who were interested in or equipped to engage in lively and thoughtful debate. Therein lies the answer to your query Moonie.

That is why you don't blame the Hurricane?

No Moonie, for the sake of clarity, I bolded why I believe some people didn't blame the hurricane.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
The idiotic comment the guy made about global warming and the hurricane deserved the bashing, and far more than that for its breathless ignorance.

First, there has been a lot of technical discussion in the media about the effects of global warming on the strength and path of hurricanes, past, present and future.

Media discussion? Who gives a crap what the media says about it? How about scientific discussion by climatologists and meteorologists who have said there is no proven link between global warming on the strength of hurricanes. One MIT scientist claims that hurricanes are lasting longer, but his data does not even apply to Atlantic Basin hurricanes.

Second, you said nothing to refute that, or even comment about it. All you did was fart out more gas about "the left."

And ironically enough, you complain about my bashing...and then proceed to bash me?

You earned every bit of it with your vapid, meaningless post. That is a fact. Keep it up, and I'll continue to call you on it. :frown:

Call me on it? Aren't you the deluded one. All you've attemtped to do is apologize for your looper buddies making moronic and uninformed statements about glocal warming.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: yllus
I'm sure the right would attack a Democrat president for percieved inaction/incompetence just like the left is right now.

About the only useful thing to come out of the entire disaster is that we know a little more clearly who the complete retards are here on AT.

Well I wouldn't say you were a complete retard. Your spelling is very good!😉

And no one is perfect!

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How come nobody ever blames the hurricane?

I quit actively participating in this particular forum for several reasons. One of which was an apparent lack of people who were interested in or equipped to engage in lively and thoughtful debate. Therein lies the answer to your query Moonie.

That is why you don't blame the Hurricane?

No Moonie, for the sake of clarity, I bolded why I believe some people didn't blame the hurricane.

Yes, for the sake of honesty, I guess I knew what you implied, and I agree, generally speaking, but I had had something else in mind when I asked the question. I asked why people didn't blame the factual cause knowing that the reason was that the factual cause was an act of nature, on the one hand and not really amenable to blame, but on the other, as an inanimate object, it could feel no sense of blame and no guilt or pain. You know that I believe that people are suffering from hidden self hate and one of the expressions of that is the desire to blame, anybody out there for the pain in here, in the self. Because we suffer we want others to also. We want them to feel our pain and so we inflict our pain on them.

So when disaster strikes people are brought closer to their true state. The animals start to loot, the blamers start to blame the apologists who are expert suppressors and good at holding on to a fealingless state or who are being targeted with blame start apologizing and defending.

Once the emotional tension is bleed off a bit people will settle back to having more reason. But at the moment we are in the chimp hooping state.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

The NO disaster plan was . . . "call for help."

But I'm not sure you could expect much considering the scope of their problems.

Typical excuses of the right.

Any other Country calls for help they jump becuase of the political and profitablity, a call for help right here at home and we get bumpkus.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

The NO disaster plan was . . . "call for help."

But I'm not sure you could expect much considering the scope of their problems.

Typical excuses of the right.

Any other Country calls for help they jump becuase of the political and profitablity, a call for help right here at home and we get bumpkus.

Funny how the left can find all kinds of reasons to blame the federal response and excuse the local and state authorities.

Was FEMA responsible for not reponding properly? Sure. Fire Brown.

Was the governor of LA responsbile for not having the proper plans in place and not providing the proper evacuation and follow on response? es. Fire Blanco.

Was Nagin responsible for knowing long in advance that his disaster plan was woefully inaqequate and for not maintaining the control of his police department, for which he is directly responsbile? Yes. Fire Nagin.

See how easy it is Dave to assess blame properly up and down the line?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

The NO disaster plan was . . . "call for help."

But I'm not sure you could expect much considering the scope of their problems.

Typical excuses of the right.

Any other Country calls for help they jump becuase of the political and profitablity, a call for help right here at home and we get bumpkus.

Funny how the left can find all kinds of reasons to blame the federal response and excuse the local and state authorities.

Was FEMA responsible for not reponding properly? Sure. Fire Brown.

Was the governor of LA responsbile for not having the proper plans in place and not providing the proper evacuation and follow on response? es. Fire Blanco.

Was Nagin responsible for knowing long in advance that his disaster plan was woefully inaqequate and for not maintaining the control of his police department, for which he is directly responsbile? Yes. Fire Nagin.

See how easy it is Dave to assess blame properly up and down the line?

I didn't say anything about letting local Mayor Nagin or State Gove Blanco off any hook.

I'm talking about the magnitude was obvious and there was a many days delay of any response from Federal level which is firmly controlled by the right.

Suck it up and admit the incompetence of this administration.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I didn't say anything about letting local Mayor Nagin or State Gove Blanco off any hook.

I'm talking about the magnitude was obvious and there was a many days delay of any response from Federal level which is firmly controlled by the right.

Suck it up and admit the incompetence of this administration.

The right is following the WH's lead:

White House rejects calls for firing of FEMA director
http://www.katc.com/Global/story.asp?S=3811189


:roll:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc

The NO disaster plan was . . . "call for help."

But I'm not sure you could expect much considering the scope of their problems.

Typical excuses of the right.

Any other Country calls for help they jump becuase of the political and profitablity, a call for help right here at home and we get bumpkus.

Funny how the left can find all kinds of reasons to blame the federal response and excuse the local and state authorities.

Was FEMA responsible for not reponding properly? Sure. Fire Brown.

Was the governor of LA responsbile for not having the proper plans in place and not providing the proper evacuation and follow on response? es. Fire Blanco.

Was Nagin responsible for knowing long in advance that his disaster plan was woefully inaqequate and for not maintaining the control of his police department, for which he is directly responsbile? Yes. Fire Nagin.

See how easy it is Dave to assess blame properly up and down the line?

I didn't say anything about letting local Mayor Nagin or State Gove Blanco off any hook.

I'm talking about the magnitude was obvious and there was a many days delay of any response from Federal level which is firmly controlled by the right.

Suck it up and admit the incompetence of this administration.

We know there were delays (though the insistence by the left that the response to a disaster of this scale could have been absolutely immediate is ridiculously unrealistic). The question is what caused those delays and the answers are just beginning to trickle in. I bet the Bush bashers aren't going to like those answers either, since many of them point back to the governor being absolutely useless and failing in her duties.

Was Brown a tool? Absolutely. I hope he gets fired both for his stupid public observations downplaying the severity of the damage as well as his lack of qualifications. But there are plenty others responsible as well and Nagin and Blanco are first in line.