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waggy

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Doctor Nyse
In a fight? No
While being mugged? Yes

in a fight? hell yueah.

someone picks a fight with me i will kick in the nuts, go for the eyes whatever. I want to get home unhurt.

But once you go for the balls/eyes, they're going to go for the balls/eyes. And if you were in a position where you needed to go for the balls/eyes, your opponent is most likely going to hurt you a lot worse once he does the same.

thats why you make it count.

most idiots in a fight are going to try to pose or talk shit.

In a fight i will do whatever i have to make sure i am going home unharmed. if that means talking my way out or useing dirty fighting then fine. I spent a few years in hapkido (very nasty stuff) and spent 15 years in wrestling. i know enough moves to hurt someone enough for me to walk away.

i don't mind looking like a wimp ro pussy.
 

Captante

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Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.

If i am in a actual figh ti have already done pretty much everyghing i can to avoid it.

So if someone insist on fighting me i will do whatever i have to do be the one walking away unhurt or as close as possible.

 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.

If i am in a actual figh ti have already done pretty much everyghing i can to avoid it.

So if someone insist on fighting me i will do whatever i have to do be the one walking away unhurt or as close as possible.

Exactly.

I will avoid a fight if possible, but if it goes go there I am going to do everything in my power and use anything I can to end the person I am fighting with.
 

Hyperlite

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Ask someone who practices Krav Maga if groin strikes are fair game. then promptly cover yourself. groin strikes are also useful in opening up many other points of attack. if you nail someone hard enough to make them temporarily bend over (which doesn't take much force in that area) you reveal their face to your knee and the back of their head/neck to your left elbow (assuming you strike the groin with a right backhand or similar attack).
 

Oceandevi

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Originally posted by: jjones
I usually kick to the crotch on greeting someone for the first time.

I like to murder their first born child then bring them back to life!

And there are levels to a fight.

If death/serious harm is a penalty of losing.... then wtf are you even asking for.
 

EGGO

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Take your teeth to his jugular and pull. Repeat with his windpipe and flesh. The people around you will wise up.
 

imported_Imp

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If ot's a fight among two people settling their "differences", then ball kicking is not ok.

Rapist, mugger, random attacker, anything goes. I'd have no problem stomping or ripping the aforementioned part off.
 

bonkers325

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Originally posted by: enwar3
Say you're getting mugged or something, and you are stupid enough to start a fistfight. Is hitting the other guy in the crotch fair game or a low blow?

getting mugged means your life is possibly in danger, and if thats the case then anything goes
 

Darwin333

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Dec 11, 2006
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Rule number 11 covers this nicely.

11. Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
 

pontifex

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but you know, if someone posts "Some dude picked a fight with me last night and I kicked the guy in the balls and won. Am I a pussy?" tomorrow, you know this forum would be all over him, calling him a pussy and whatever other insulting terms they can think of.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: pontifex
but you know, if someone posts "Some dude picked a fight with me last night and I kicked the guy in the balls and won. Am I a pussy?" tomorrow, you know this forum would be all over him, calling him a pussy and whatever other insulting terms they can think of.

you are right. most would call him a pussy.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.

If i am in a actual figh ti have already done pretty much everyghing i can to avoid it.

So if someone insist on fighting me i will do whatever i have to do be the one walking away unhurt or as close as possible.

yep....also given that I'm 5'5" and 145lbs chances are that I'm significantly outweighed in any fight, I'm not going to be holding anything back
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: pontifex
but you know, if someone posts "Some dude picked a fight with me last night and I kicked the guy in the balls and won. Am I a pussy?" tomorrow, you know this forum would be all over him, calling him a pussy and whatever other insulting terms they can think of.

you are right. most would call him a pussy.

but not according to the responses in this thread. most people seem to think its fine in that situation.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: KLin
If i'm getting mugged, the first i'd punch/kick is the testicles.

anything goes... and i'd pick kicking, because you have a longer reach... and there is this nagging/weird feeling about touching another guys' ballz with your fist.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: pontifex
but you know, if someone posts "Some dude picked a fight with me last night and I kicked the guy in the balls and won. Am I a pussy?" tomorrow, you know this forum would be all over him, calling him a pussy and whatever other insulting terms they can think of.

you are right. most would call him a pussy.

but not according to the responses in this thread. most people seem to think its fine in that situation.

I wouldn't call them a pussy, I'd complement them on taking a meathead douchebag (usually the sort that start crap like that) down a couple pegs.
 

Capt Caveman

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If it's a mugging, anything goes. A co-worker of mine who's a black-belt was walking home one night when a guy came out of car charging him with a hammer. He blocked the swing of the hammer and then ripped out one of the attacker's eyeballs.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.

If i am in a actual figh ti have already done pretty much everyghing i can to avoid it.

So if someone insist on fighting me i will do whatever i have to do be the one walking away unhurt or as close as possible.

yep....also given that I'm 5'5" and 145lbs chances are that I'm significantly outweighed in any fight, I'm not going to be holding anything back




hahah same here!

wich is why i do my best ot NOT get into a fight. hell last fight i got in was in highschool.

its just not worth it.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
If it's a mugging, anything goes. A co-worker of mine who's a black-belt was walking home one night when a guy came out of car charging him with a hammer. He blocked the swing of the hammer and then ripped out one of the attacker's eyeballs.

woah, does he know the Five-Point-Palm Exploding Heart Technique?
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
If it's a mugging, anything goes. A co-worker of mine who's a black-belt was walking home one night when a guy came out of car charging him with a hammer. He blocked the swing of the hammer and then ripped out one of the attacker's eyeballs.

woah, does he know the Five-Point-Palm Exploding Heart Technique?

Haha, no but he knows a number of pressure points that he says can take down people. Bastard won't show any of them to me.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Captante
Theres no such thing as a "fair fight" outside of a boxing ring (or similar) so it follows there is no such thing as "dirty" fighting.

Not true. There's a big difference between fighting someone and trying to gouge their eyes out/kill them.

If i am in a actual figh ti have already done pretty much everyghing i can to avoid it.

So if someone insist on fighting me i will do whatever i have to do be the one walking away unhurt or as close as possible.

yep....also given that I'm 5'5" and 145lbs chances are that I'm significantly outweighed in any fight, I'm not going to be holding anything back



hahah same here!

wich is why i do my best ot NOT get into a fight. hell last fight i got in was in highschool.

its just not worth it.

my last one was in grade school (actually won that one against a bigger kid, lol), I figured out early that using the brain was a lot more effective and less painful
 
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SlitheryDee

First off I don't fight. It follows that I'd stand a fair chance of getting my ass beat by someone who DOES fight regularly and enjoys it. With that in mind I would not have any illusions about fighting fair against someone who is probably a superior fighter than me. A potentially disabling blow to the nuts is something I'd be looking for an opportunity to do among other ungentlemanly or otherwise underhanded tactics. Whether I win or lose I hope that I can make my opponent never EVER want to mess with me again at least.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Doctor Nyse
In a fight? No
While being mugged? Yes

in a fight? hell yueah.

someone picks a fight with me i will kick in the nuts, go for the eyes whatever. I want to get home unhurt.

But once you go for the balls/eyes, they're going to go for the balls/eyes. And if you were in a position where you needed to go for the balls/eyes, your opponent is most likely going to hurt you a lot worse once he does the same.

Yeah...you have to know WTF you are doing. I love the big fat dudes that think they can just crush anyone as well as the little wirey guys that think they are too quick for a larger opponent and then all the people in between that think since they have these awesome moves in their mind they can simply execute them in real life.

The fights these types end up in are funny to watch in a bar as more often than not these guys are the actual ones to start a fight where just some joking / busting chops is happening. Like someone tripping or dropping their drink...of course someone is going to rib you for it...next thing you know Neopolian Dynamite is throws a kick at Joe Goldengloves for laughing at him. The results are hilarious.

In a real fight you want to shut it down asap, there is a high level of chance that even if you win it you are going to wind up pretty hurt yourself. I have always gone quickly inside and went for a subdue, if I think there is a chance the guy is going to keep coming I will put him close to unconscious. Dancing around and holding back is just going to open one up for injury. That said, there are a lot more people taking these UFC type classes...there is a world of difference fighting the average dude vs someone that trains even once per week.

There is also a huge danger of buddies jumping in though so unless you have back up with you as well it's best to just go for a spectacular crippling blow (not neccessarily permanently maiming someone, but that's always a risk)...it's going to suck to be the antagonist, but chances are his buddies are not going to want to risk the same injury. You do have to realize that you better make it work the first time or they may try it to you.

Strikes to the crotch are problematic though, for one most people can't throw a kick properly even if they think they are Bruce Lee at home....and second it's a natural reaction for a male to cover their crotch when a strike is coming in. Pepper spray is also a problem unless you have it already out. If I were a mugger, as soon as someone went into their purse or worse trying to dig into one of their pockets I'd knock them the f' out. I'd have no idea if it were your wallet, pepper spray or a freaking hammerless taurus you were going for...either way it'd be safer for me to find out myself. To a pro, most pepper sprays are inadequate...these guys purposely expose themselves to it...in quite a few martial arts dojos they do the same thing. A taser is a much better choice today, but still not 100%

It's hard to call the shots in an unseen fight, but I knew I couldn't get them to the ground and under control I'd feign some obvious attacks to get them to open up some pressure points that I could hit...an open handed stike to the ear is extremely effective as is a hard strike behnd the ear/jaw and under the nose. You really don't want to target the throat as you can kill someone and more than likely a manslaughter charge would stick against you. I'd try to stay as close inside as I could making their punches not so effective. If I ended up against a guy that knew how to use elbows and knees well, I'd probably be outmatched right now.

All that said, my first action is to avoid the fight. Someone can call me names or whatever the fvck problem they have. Chances are the reason behind it is they are jealous of something going on in my area of the place. Me fighting them is just going to take me away from the fun I am having as well as set me up for a potential life changing injury. You can walk away from a fight a far bigger man than fighting in one if you chose your words correctly.