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sao123

Lifer
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Originally posted by: enwar3
Say you're getting mugged or something, and you are stupid enough to start a fistfight. Is hitting the other guy in the crotch fair game or a low blow?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 (New International Version)

11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.


well I guess... no!
 
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I don't know. I feel that if I'm going to die either way, I'd kick the crotch. Like if 5 guys are about to kill you, I'd kick as many crotches as I could before they slice me up.

If you know it's your only chance of making it out alive, go for it. If you know it's going to be a pretty even fight, I'd say no because if you're going to go dirty, they're going to go dirty. It's a matter of life or death. It's not like I haven't been in fights either. You keep it clean, your chances of walking away bruised like the other guy are just fine. If you are in a Jack Bauer vs. Terrorist situation, yeah I can see why you need to aim to disable very quickly.
 

OS

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if someone is just trying to rob or jump you on the street, anything goes. Even if the guy after you isn't fighting sh*t dirty, if you get your face broken badly enough, you will be disfigured anyways, don't hold back. He is already not interested in your well being so feel free to return the favor.

i've learned my lesson now, if anyone swings at you for no reason on the street, don't hold back. I bought a $150 hawkbill knife after my little fall and it is coming out and dragged across whatever I can touch next time someone tries to swing at me. After all my BS is taken care of, I will buy a handgun and CWL. Too much hoop jumping in CA or else I would already have one.

if someone wants to call me out, atleast i know first hand how it goes, i was jumped for my car by some punk kid 2 or 3 months ago.

as for jail time or whatever, another thing i learned from my fall, if you are a first time offender for felony assault, you just get a month or two slap on the wrist, no matter how bad the victim is hurt, atleast in CA.
The whole system is bullsh*t and gives perpetrators and criminals lots of play and little recourse besides civil damages for the victim.

 

Captante

Lifer
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: pontifex
but you know, if someone posts "Some dude picked a fight with me last night and I kicked the guy in the balls and won. Am I a pussy?" tomorrow, you know this forum would be all over him, calling him a pussy and whatever other insulting terms they can think of.

you are right. most would call him a pussy.

but not according to the responses in this thread. most people seem to think its fine in that situation.



I avoid violence at all costs and the rare fights I've been in have all been serious situations ... under those conditions just like they teach in the Marines, all that matters is being the one that walks away so if some asshole picks a fight with me in a bar I'll use whatever means available to be certain I'm the one walking away!

What doesn't matter at all (to me at least) is being called a pussy by ATOT! ;)


 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
Ask someone who practices Krav Maga if groin strikes are fair game. then promptly cover yourself. groin strikes are also useful in opening up many other points of attack. if you nail someone hard enough to make them temporarily bend over (which doesn't take much force in that area) you reveal their face to your knee and the back of their head/neck to your left elbow (assuming you strike the groin with a right backhand or similar attack).

Unless you are already mugging me when asking that there is no need to cover your groin ;)

If you are attacked/mugged you can either make sure you (and anyone with you) escapes unharmed, or sit back and hope they don't decide to do harm. When someone points a knife at you and decides to strike you are too late. So always look at the situation and the risk, but do not hesitate to do something if you know what you are doing.
When in a fight (assuming it is not a friendly fight) your first priority is to make sure that your opponent does not get a chance to take you out, and the best way to do that is to take him out instead. If you hit someone in the balls you do not inflict permanent damage, but 'ignoring the pain' as a few said is not an option unless they really are very heavily drugged. Even a heavily trained marine will go down when hit hard in the balls. If it takes hitting someone there to get away unharmed I will do so. If it takes hitting someone in the throat to protect someone else I will do so. The 'disadvantage' of the throat though is that a good strike is lethal.

If you are uncertain of your survival options when attacked on the street I can recomment taking Krav Maga. I have taken Karate in the past, but that was not based on realistic attacks as you can encounter them on the street. KM does teach you that.
 

Anghang

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if you're getting mugged and a fight ensues, the mugger has put the value of your belongings over your physical well being, it's only fair that you do the same to him.
so yes, crotch shot is fair game if it's an open target, so is gouging of his eyes, biting, pulling ears in a ripping manner (earring too if he's got one) and pinching his face hard to the point of digging your nails into his face to rip it off (same goes for the throat)...as well as anything else you can think of...
 

Xavier434

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Is this thread for real? If you are being attacked then the only rules you should be worried about are the ones which cross the line that goes beyond self defense and could get you in trouble in court. This is why I really like Judo. Every move in Judo is considered an act of self defense when being attacked.
 

Turin39789

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If you have reason enough to fight someone, you fight like only one of you is going to walk away. That's the only way to fight, because that is what a fight is. If you're not willing to fight like that, the other person probably is, and you obviously don't have a good enough reaon to fight. Just go ahead, kick them in the balls, then sit on top of them and punch them in the face until they stop moving.


Thankfully, I've never had a good enough reason to fight someone, so I haven't been pummeled unconscious.

 

nick1985

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I would take my giant hands and grab the back of his head then drive my INSANELY long thumbs through his eyes and into his brain.





Then kick him in the nuts.