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It doesn't change their minds, but it allows the temperature to go down so innocent people don't die, such as someone like you or me.

You think a civil war will be just between the Trump supporters and the Military? You think it is going to be only at the Capital? They are going to turn on every person that doesn't align them and their "beliefs" across the nation. That's why you want time for the "temperature" to come down. It won't change their thinking, but it may keep 1000's of innocent people from dying if it starts a Civil War.

Leaving Trump in office for another 10 days might start a Civil War. He has a LOT of powers as president. Get him the F out of there before he causes any more harm.
 

Pohemi

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Look past your own feelings. There is a right way to handle this and a wrong way. There is only one right way that will be beneficial for the country.. one will lead to a war that may last for decades, and it may not be a war that is on the streets.
Stop your fearmongering bullshit, pussy.
I never said anything about NOT wanting to do it, so stop making shit up. This is about impeaching him now or in 100 days. I am just voicing why waiting 100 days would be the best path. Doing it now will escalate the current situation, waiting 100 days won't. Plain and simple.
And you keep stating it as fact, and I think you are full of shit and an enabler with that attitude.
So you agree we should escalate it, which will most likely result in a full blown civil war? That is really what impeaching him immediately will do, guarantee a civil war. waiting the 100 days may prevent a civil war.
It's about the reaction of the citizens and what will take place.
...Waiting will make a difference between Having a Civil war and not having a civil war.
I am worried about a Civil War breaking out, which can be avoided by waiting the 100 days.. I'm not saying Don't impeach him. Just agree that we should wait 100 days.
I don't fear aggression.
What I suggest isn't making concessions, has nothing to do with appeasing anyone. You don't understand the situation if you think it's making concessions or to appease anyone to wait the 100 days.
You are more contradictory than @s0me0nesRetarded, what the fuck is wrong with you?!?
 

NWRMidnight

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Take your cowardly whining and stuff it. The appeasement, excuses, and enablement must end.

It is time to stop empowering traitors. It is time to start sending traitors to prison to rot their lives away.

If that causes the Nazis to revolt and start a civil war, that will make cleansing the Nazi filth that much easier. The right to due process is forfeited when shooting at the National Guard.

I'm willing to die peotecting my family and my country right now if needed. Are you? Because if Things go south due to the immediate impeachment, that is just might be the decision you and everyone else may need to make. Because it won't be just the Trump supporters and the military in the fight So if you call supporting a delay to prevent that from happening, cowardness then I so be it.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Stop your fearmongering bullshit, pussy.

And you keep stating it as fact, and I think you are full of shit and an enabler with that attitude.




You are more contradictory than @s0me0nesRetarded, what the fuck is wrong with you?!?
What have I contradicted?

Fear mongering? They already went after congress with the plan to either take hostages and/or kill them. They where chanting "hang Pence" so I am sure it's the later. It's not fear, it's already started right in front of you, and you call me a pussy for supporting not escalating it further and wait the 100 days.. you're a fucking idiot.
 
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I'm willing to die peotecting my family and my country right now if needed. Are you? Because if Things go south due to the immediate impeachment, that is just might be the decision you and everyone else may need to make. Because it won't be just the Trump supporters and the military in the fight So if you call supporting a delay to prevent that from happening, cowardness then I so be it.

The delay won't prevent any such action, (if any) it will only postpone it.
Line Pennsylvania Avenue and the main streets of all American cities with gallows and publicly hang any such treasonous bastards.
 

NWRMidnight

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We've been having people claim this for over a decade, how's that turning out?

We had people like you saying this stupid shit 4 years ago when Turmp said it about the election that he supposedly legit won (the fact that even he wasn't actually convinced about that should be telling...). Then we had people like you say that after white supremacists marched and then murdered a woman. Then we had people like you saying that when Turmp was having families separated and put in concentration camps. Then we had people like you say that when several people got murdered by police with no repercussions. Then we had people like you saying that when Turmp started alleging fraud before he even started campaigning for the 2020 election. Then we had people like you say that when he massively fucked up the pandemic, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths. Then we had people like you say that leading up to the election. Then we had people like you say that when he lost the election. Then we had people like you say that when he started calling for open violence to overturn the election. Then we had people like you after he incited violence to try and overthrow the election. Now we have you saying that when they're saying they're going to do more violence to overthrow the election during the inauguration. And I'm guessing when that happens we'll have you saying how we need to wait 100 more days before doing anything because it might escalate things.

We have multiple historic records for why doing what you want is the wrong path. A particularly notable example was literally the almost exact same situation that happened with Germany and the Nazis.

Stop being a fucking dipshit. Or don't and then act surprised when you're being marched into a concentration camp because you willfully chose to ignore the 1000 situations that preceded that where you chose to tell people to wait 100 days.

Non of that applies to me or what I said, don't compare me with that shit. You all act like I am saying don't hold him accountable.. I am not saying that at all. A delay of 100 days doesn't equal don't do it. But if you want to run into a burning house, go for it. I'd rather wait till the fire dies down a little.
 
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Pipeline 1010

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If Dems want to expedite things they can, this isn't a valid argument. The bills you have as priorities are pretty much already written or even passed by the house.

Make sure to let the important dems in congress know this, because apparently they seem to not understand how things work. Leadership is literally saying impeachment takes time and we need to prioritize some other stuff first but we can still do both so don't worry. I think it is going to work out.
 

NWRMidnight

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Leaving Trump in office for another 10 days might start a Civil War. He has a LOT of powers as president. Get him the F out of there before he causes any more harm.
There is no path other than him resigning that will get him out before the 20th, not the 25th amendment, not impeachment (senate won't be back till the 19th). That's another reason why even attempting the impeachment now will just be throwing fuel on the fire.
 

Pohemi

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What have I contradicted?
You claiming your appeasement isn't indeed appeasement but rationality. It's contradictory bullshit.
Fear mongering? They already went after congress with the plan to either take hostages and/or kill them. They where chanting "hang Pence" so I am sure it's the later. It's not fear, it's already started right in front of you, and you call me a pussy for supporting not escalating it further and wait the 100 days.. you're a fucking idiot.
You are afraid of "the other side" escalating violence and agression under the theoretical threat of legal action. It IS fear, and you are wanting to allow an escape for the man responsible. Whose the fucking idiot, here?
Non of that applies to me or what I said, don't compare me with that shit. You all act like I am saying don't hold him accountable.. I am not saying that at all. A delay of 100 days doesn't equal don't do it. But if you want to run into a burning house, go for it. I'd rather wait till the fire dies down a little.
Yeah, we get it. You're a pussy apologist. Now fuck off.
 
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NWRMidnight

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You claiming your appeasement isn't indeed appeasement but rationality. It's contradictory bullshit.

You are afraid of "the other side" escalating violence and agression under the theoretical threat of legal action. It IS fear, and you are wanting to allow an escape for the man responsible. Whose the fucking idiot, here?

Yeah, we get it. You're a pussy apologist. Now fuck off.
It's already happening right in front of you. Supporting steps to preventing it from escalate further, and explaining what that escalation could lead to is not fear. I am sorry you are to stupid to understand that, and can't see past the here and now.

Where am I giving him an escape? He will be impeached in 100 days if they decide to delay it till then. The only difference if it is done now or then, will be the level the violence reaches. It will be so much worse if done now. But the outcome lf the impeachment will be the same.
 
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I'm wondering if Trump gets impeached by the House would it trigger him to do something even more stupid than inciting a riot/insurrection? It seems well within his spiteful childish nature and the willingness of his supporters to go there.
 

Pohemi

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It's already happening right in front of you. Supporting steps to preventing it from escalate further, and explaining what that escalation could lead to is not fear. I am sorry you are to stupid to understand that, and can't see past the here and now.

Where am I giving him an escape? He will be impeached in 100 days if they decide to delay it till then. The only difference if it is done now or then, will be the level the violence reaches. It will be so much worse if done now. But the outcome lf the impeachment will be the same.
You're a fucking idiot (and a fearmonger) for continually stating that this civil war fantasy of yours is GUARAN-FUCKING-TEED if they persue the impeachment now. You have no idea if it will matter or make a difference, or if the time will soften the blow and make it harder to convict him. You have no fucking idea.

THAT is why you come off like a scared little appeasement bitch.
 

NWRMidnight

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You're a fucking idiot (and a fearmonger) for continually stating that this civil war fantasy of yours is GUARAN-FUCKING-TEED if they persue the impeachment now. You have no idea if it will matter or make a difference, or if the time will soften the blow and make it harder to convict him. You have no fucking idea.

THAT is why you come off like a scared little appeasement bitch.
It was considered fear mongering when people said there would be violence on January 6th.. look what happened. It was taken farther than even those "fearmongers" thought it would go. You label it fearmongering because you don't see it happening.

Did you see January 6th playing out as it did? Do you seriously think that is the worse it is going to be?
 

NWRMidnight

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The purpose of terrorism is to intimidate your rivals into doing what you want them to.

If you don't impeach because you are afraid of them, terrorism worked.
He will be impeached, that's what people don't seem to understand. They just believe it has to be done immediately, which will only fuel the violence. It will do nothing more, and it Trump still won't be held accountable till long after the 20th, even if the house impeaches him tomorrow.
 

Pohemi

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It was considered fear mongering when people said there would be violence on January 6th.. look what happened. It was taken farther than even those "fearmongers" thought it would go. You label it fearmongering because you don't see it happening.

Did you see January 6th playing out as it did? Do you seriously think that is the worse it is going to be?
Yes. I did. If you didn't, that's on you. I can't help that it was intentionally understaffed and the rioters were practically assisted. Not my fault. Maybe they should improve security for Jan 20th, no?

Does that equate to a full-blown civil war of fucktard rednecks? Hardly.
 
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The purpose of terrorism is to intimidate your rivals into doing what you want them to.

If you don't impeach because you are afraid of them, terrorism worked.
They can take up the articles right away in the new congress. It can be done before the end of Jan.
If they fail to convict with 2/3 vote, they can still prevent him from ever holding public office with a
simple majority votes if that provision is filed with the articles of impeachment.


Judgment of the Senate
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NWRMidnight

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Yes. I did. If you didn't, that's on you. I can't help that it was intentionally understaffed and the rioters were practically assisted. Not my fault. Maybe they should improve security for Jan 20th, no?

Does that equate to a full-blown civil war of fucktard rednecks? Hardly.
You expected them to attack the capitol with the intentions of taking congress hostage or killing them? Bullshit. You are lying lying out your ass.


Many expected rioting, and some violence, but not insurrection on Congress. it would have played out much worse with a lot more dead had they been fully staffed. Or dis you miss the weapons and bombs they found afterwards?
 
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Make sure to let the important dems in congress know this, because apparently they seem to not understand how things work. Leadership is literally saying impeachment takes time and we need to prioritize some other stuff first but we can still do both so don't worry. I think it is going to work out.

They seem to be aware, some of them at least.
https://nadler.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=394491

"No one feels worse than I do that those efforts did not result in President Trump’s removal from office. But I have not given up. I have called upon the Vice President to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove the President from office because he is unfit to serve. And now, I am once again urging that the President be impeached and removed from office. We have a limited period of time in which to act. The nation cannot afford a lengthy, drawn out process, and I support bringing articles of impeachment directly to the House floor."

You expected them to attack the capitol with the intentions of taking congress hostage or killing them? Bullshit. You are lying lying out your ass.

Uhh, yes? This shit has been all over their social media gathering spots.
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-borough...rm-the-capital--came-together-on-social-media
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/protesters-storm-capitol-hill-building.html
https://www.businessinsider.in/tech...ays-before-the-siege/articleshow/80155657.cms
 
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NWRMidnight

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So, you where a part of it? Because that is the only way you would have had such information and would be aware of the plan to attack congress, take hostages, or kill them BEFORE it happened. Articles you googled about it being on social media, AFTER it happened doesn't mean shit when it comes to what those not involved expected to take place before Jan 6.

So you are saying you followed that media and knew they where planning on taking hostages and possibly killing congress members and that's why you expected it was going to happen?
 
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ecogen

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So, you where a part of it? Because that is the only way you would have had such information and would be aware of the plan to attack congress, take hostages, or kill them BEFORE it happened. Articles you googled about it being on social media, AFTER it happened doesn't mean shit when it comes to what those not involved expected to take place before Jan 6.

So you are saying you followed that media and knew they where planning on taking hostages and possibly killing congress members and that's why you expected it to happen?

Man you really suck at reasoning. I knew about it because I follow subs like ParlerWatch on reddit, there are communities dedicated to checking what these fucking wackos are planning. I knew it beforehand, journalists knew it beforehand and you can be pretty damn sure authorities knew it beforehand.

Here's an article written before the events.
https://www.adl.org/blog/extremists...lan-to-protest-congressional-certification-of
 

NWRMidnight

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Man you really suck at reasoning. I knew about it because I follow subs like ParlerWatch on reddit, there are communities dedicated to checking what these fucking wackos are planning. I knew it beforehand, journalists knew it beforehand and you can be pretty damn sure authorities knew it beforehand.

Here's an article written before the events.
https://www.adl.org/blog/extremists...lan-to-protest-congressional-certification-of


So your reasoning/conclusion before Jan 6th, by visiting all these sites, was that they where going to attack congress, breach it, attempt to take congress hostage and possibly kill them? Or was your real expectation (before the 6th) was that there would be violance and rioting outside of the congress building? The latter is what was expected by the majority of NON Trump Supporters, journalists, most likely the authorities, and I am betting you as well. Which is also what that blog supports. It doesn't support anything about it going as far as it did. That's the point you missed, is it went farther than anyone imagined, and it's most likely not over.

Or maybe you only read/cherry picked part of my comments and only saw what you wanted to see and didn't realize I already said people, including myself, expected their to be rioting and some violance, but it went farther than anyone imagined (the farther than anyone imagined is what you are arguing about that you are trying to say you knew)
 
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