Immigration, Explained with Gumballs

[sdifox]

http://powersource.post-gazette.com...pecialty-pizza-oven-fuel/stories/201509240170

Wtf...

 

[brycejones]

Wtf...

Coal fired pizza is a very old thing. There might be enough demand to keep 1 small mine active 20 years from now.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Wtf...

Yeah this is an old old thing. The oven pictured is a "black" oven where anthracite is in the baking chamber. In NYC and perhaps elsewhere there are "white" ovens where heat is convected and refracted from an external chamber to heat up a separate baking oven. This is how bread was baked.

When people think coal they imagine great belching clouds of smoke and sulfur, but that's not an issue here. Anthracite burns clean and provides extreme heat, higher than wood, for fast cooking of pizza.

 

[Jaskalas]

Here in important message that I think should be understood by everyone.

Immigration is not unlimited and always positive. Even disregarding the terrorist angle, there are limits to how many people we can or should take in.

I'm fairly adamant with stopping US population growth where it's at now. Reducing immigration to thousands, not millions.
And that's purely from a stability and sustainment factor. I do not think we have the room or resources to rapidly expand anymore.

 

[Chiropteran]

I'm fairly adamant with stopping US population growth where it's at now. Reducing immigration to thousands, not millions.
And that's purely from a stability and sustainment factor. I do not think we have the room or resources to rapidly expand anymore.

Another thing is the whole environment argument.

More people = more pollution. While immigration arguably just means moving people around, it enables population growth because people moving out of crowded or bad areas where they won't have children to an area of peace and stability where they will have kids leads to net growth.

 

[Amused]

 

[Amused]

I'm fairly adamant with stopping US population growth where it's at now. Reducing immigration to thousands, not millions.
And that's purely from a stability and sustainment factor. I do not think we have the room or resources to rapidly expand anymore.

See us way, way down at 176? We are no where near the population density level where we have to even begin to worry. Get out of the city for a minute.

https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=21000

1 Macau 20,848.01
2 Monaco 15,254
3 Singapore 7,987.52
4 Hong Kong 6,442.65
5 Gaza Strip 5,045.5
6 Gibraltar 4,490
7 Holy See (Vatican City) 1,913.64
8 Bahrain 1,729.06
9 Maldives 1,320.79
10 Malta 1,305.87
11 Bermuda 1,293.31
12 Sint Maarten 1,167.32
13 Bangladesh 1,154.74
14 Guernsey 844.22
15 Jersey 832.01
16 Barbados 673.67
17 Mauritius 652.53
18 Taiwan 649.25
19 Aruba 614.79
20 Saint Martin 579.6
21 Lebanon 565.63
22 San Marino 536.75
23 Korea, South 491.78
24 Rwanda 468.42
25 West Bank 466.05
26 Nauru 451.81
27 Tuvalu 414.69
28 Netherlands 406.26
29 Marshall Islands 392.17
30 Israel 376.59
31 India 376.1
32 Burundi 373.55
33 Haiti 360.24
34 Philippines 358.89
35 Saint Barthelemy 346.05
36 Comoros 343.12
37 Belgium 342.29
38 Japan 336.33
39 Sri Lanka 333.28
40 Curacao 330.71
41 Grenada 320.21
42 Guam 295.96
43 El Salvador 291.12
44 Vietnam 282.06
45 American Samoa 273.95
46 Jamaica 266.59
47 Saint Lucia 265.2
48 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 264.57
49 Puerto Rico 262.57
50 United Kingdom 261.66
51 Pakistan 246.42
52 Trinidad and Tobago 238.67
53 Liechtenstein 233.21
54 Germany 226.87
55 British Virgin Islands 216.42
56 Dominican Republic 212.65
57 Nepal 210.54
58 Cayman Islands 208.01
59 Antigua and Barbuda 206.27
60 Korea, North 206.17
61 Italy 204.69
62 Seychelles 201.43
63 Luxembourg 201.34
64 Sao Tome and Principe 197.54
65 Saint Kitts and Nevis 197.46
66 Switzerland 195.3
67 Nigeria 191.78
68 Qatar 183.25
69 Andorra 182.6
70 Anguilla 176.77
71 Kosovo 170.77
72 Gambia, The 170.48
73 Kuwait 153.93
74 Isle of Man 151.86
75 Micronesia, Federated States of 150.54
76 Uganda 149.02
77 Malawi 146.67
78 Tonga 142.49
79 China 141.26
80 Czech Republic 134.75
81 Guatemala 134.51
82 Cape Verde 133.53
83 Indonesia 133.16
84 Thailand 132.02
85 Togo 129.46
86 Denmark 129.23
87 Kiribati 128.84
88 Poland 122.64
89 Portugal 117.43
90 Azerbaijan 111.85
91 Tokelau 111.42
92 Slovakia 111.01
93 Northern Mariana Islands 110.95
94 Wallis and Futuna 109.58
95 Ghana 107.99
96 Hungary 106.63
97 Moldova 105.85
98 Albania 105.06
99 Turkey 104.16
100 France 102.92
101 Armenia 102.9
102 Cuba 99.65
103 Slovenia 98.08
104 Austria 98.04
105 Dominica 97.8
106 Syria 96.94
107 Spain 94.46
108 Serbia 93.06
109 Costa Rica 93.06
110 Malaysia 91.17
111 Romania 91.15
112 Benin 90.22
113 Jordan 88.77
114 Ethiopia 87.51
115 Egypt 86.77
116 Cambodia 85.39
117 Burma 82.39
118 Swaziland 81.76
119 Greece 81.66
120 Macedonia 81.35
121 East Timor 80.78
122 Sierra Leone 80.06
123 Croatia 78.99
124 Kenya 77.55
125 Honduras 76.71
126 Bosnia and Herzegovina 75.62
127 Iraq 74.34
128 Morocco 73.87
129 Ukraine 73.38
130 Brunei 73.32
131 Cote d'Ivoire 70.86
132 Georgia 70.82
133 Samoa 69.46
134 Senegal 69.32
135 Ireland 68.77
136 United Arab Emirates 67.33
137 French Polynesia 67.2
138 Burkina Faso 66.98
139 Tunisia 66.85
140 Uzbekistan 64.66
141 Lesotho 63.98
142 Bulgaria 62.45
143 Norfolk Island 61.39
144 Mexico 61.23
145 Tajikistan 56.26
146 Ecuador 55.21
147 Virgin Islands 54.54
148 Eritrea 54.26
149 Lithuania 53.69
150 Tanzania 52.4
151 Turks and Caicos Islands 51.76
152 Montserrat 51.13
153 Fiji 49.43
154 Yemen 49.35
155 Iran 49.05
156 Afghanistan 48.79
157 Cameroon 48.65
158 Panama 47.84
159 Montenegro 47.06
160 Guinea-Bissau 46.88
161 Guinea 46.67
162 Belarus 46.28
163 Palau 46.16
164 Nicaragua 44.86
165 Cook Islands 42.94
166 Cocos (Keeling) Islands 42.57
167 Colombia 40.6
168 South Africa 39.68
169 Madagascar 39.52
170 Liberia 36.75
171 Faroe Islands 35.86
172 Zimbabwe 35.24
173 Djibouti 34.92
174 Latvia 33.52
175 Congo, Democratic Republic of the 33.02
176 United States 32.45
177 Venezuela 31.65
178 Mozambique 30.89
179 Laos 28.73
180 Kyrgyzstan 28.03
181 Estonia 27.81
182 Equatorial Guinea 25.75
183 Saint Helena 25.25
184 Brazil 23.8
185 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 23.62
186 Peru 23.46
187 Bahamas, The 23.19
188 Chile 22.97
189 Vanuatu 21.9
190 Sweden 21.59
191 Solomon Islands 21.11
192 Zambia 19.45
193 Bhutan 19.11
194 Sudan 19.06
195 Uruguay 18.91
196 South Sudan 17.95
197 Paraguay 16.48
198 New Zealand 16.44
199 Somalia 16.35
200 Algeria 16.3
201 Norway 15.9
202 Finland 15.58
203 Argentina 15.47
204 Angola 15.31
205 Belize 14.84
206 New Caledonia 14.42
207 Papua New Guinea 14.16
208 Niger 13.79
209 Congo, Republic of the 13.63
210 Mali 13.27
211 Saudi Arabia 12.72
212 Christmas Island 11.33
213 Turkmenistan 10.6
214 Oman 10.4
215 Bolivia 9.68
216 Chad 8.89
217 Central African Republic 8.47
218 Russia 8.33
219 Kazakhstan 6.59
220 Gabon 6.25
221 Niue 4.58
222 Botswana 3.71
223 Libya 3.55
224 Suriname 3.5
225 Canada 3.49
226 Guyana 3.42
227 Mauritania 3.41
228 Iceland 3.08
229 Australia 2.91
230 Namibia 2.67
231 Western Sahara 2.09
232 Mongolia 1.89
233 Pitcairn Islands 1.02
234 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) 0.23
235 Svalbard 0.03
236 Greenland 0.03
237 Palmyra Atoll 0
238 Kingman Reef 0
239 Coral Sea Islands 0
240 Antarctica 0
241 Midway Islands 0
242 Wake Island 0

 

[Puffnstuff]

I don't give a damn about a population density study. This is our country and we alone decide how many we want to grant entry to just like everyone else.

 

[Amused]

I don't give a damn about a population density study. This is our country and we alone decide how many we want to grant entry to just like everyone else.

We. And thankfully most of us are not xenophobes who use specious arguments to stop immigration.

We have plenty of room. Immigrants are a net asset to our country and economy. Diversity is strength, both in industry, and genetically.

 

[brycejones]

I don't give a damn about facts.

FTFY......

 

[Jaskalas]

See us way, way down at 176? We are no where near the population density level where we have to even begin to worry. Get out of the city for a minute.

You are ignoring whether we SHOULD increase the population density and merely saying others have it much worse.
Water resources are already to their limit in multiple locations, and you'll find no more people supported by the Colorado river.
The US West is largely a desert, plus the great plains lack trees and people for a reason.

My argument is our population, density, whatever you want to measure, is already more than it should be. We should let it peak here.

 

[Jhhnn]

You are ignoring whether we SHOULD increase the population density and merely saying others have it much worse.
Water resources are already to their limit in multiple locations, and you'll find no more people supported by the Colorado river.
The US West is largely a desert, plus the great plains lack trees and people for a reason.

My argument is our population, density, whatever you want to measure, is already more than it should be. We should let it peak here.

Our population growth rate is under 1% & likely to decline even further, even with immigration-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...6616a33048d_story.html?utm_term=.5175203436aa

The only way our rentier economy delivers to the little guy is through growth. As Bernie pointed out, we don't even get much out of it the way it is. W/o growth the little guy takes the high hard one because of the extractive effects of Capitalism itself.

 

[Blue_Max]

Diversity is strength, both in industry, and genetically.

No one who chants this globalist slogan is able to give a solid reason WHY/HOW diversity is such a strength - only that you're a racist/bigot/xenophobe if you don't believe it.

And not all races provide better genetics, as found in the world IQ charts.

A little more definition would also be nice for "diversity" because it currently means "anything but whites".

 

[Amused]

No one who chants this globalist slogan is able to give a solid reason WHY/HOW diversity is such a strength - only that you're a racist/bigot/xenophobe if you don't believe it.

And not all races provide better genetics, as found in the world IQ charts.

Wow...

Just wow...

We officially have a racial supremacist here folks.

I know I'm wasting my time but... IQ tests are culturally/education dependant and thus vastly inaccurate when crossing cultural lines.

But keep believing the Bell Curve all you want to support your hilarious idea that you're somehow superior to anyone.

Meanwhile, proof immigrants are an asset to our economy and country as a whole.

https://www.uschamber.com/sites/def...files/022851_mythsfacts_2016_report_final.pdf

 

[Puffnstuff]

FTFY......

Speak for yourself mr wizard.

 

[agent00f]

BLM much?

I'm sure immigrants are to blame for your disability, VA, and other assorted problems.

 

[brycejones]

Speak for yourself mr wizard.

Just shortened your post for accuracy and brevity. Maybe next time don't start off by saying how you don't care about reality.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Just shortened your post for accuracy and brevity. Maybe next time don't start off by saying how you don't care about reality.

I'm so sorry that I offended you snowflake. The reality is that your opinion is of no value to me and the same can be said of agent's blather.

 

[agent00f]

I'm so sorry that I offended you snowflake. The reality is that your opinion is of no value to me and the same can be said of agent's blather.

Guess it takes a really tough guy to prey on the most vulnerable groups in society.

 

[Amused]

I'm so sorry that I offended you snowflake. The reality is that your opinion is of no value to me and the same can be said of agent's blather.

The irony of taking to time to show you care by proclaiming you don't care? Priceless.

 

[brycejones]

I'm so sorry that I offended you snowflake.

Project much?

 

[theeedude]

The vast amount of immigrants coming in are actually better educated than the general U.S. population, so it's not a humanitarian argument to start with, as the U.S. doesn't take that many refugees. Most people come in either for work or via family reunification. You could argue high immigration levels is depressing wage levels, particularly in STEM fields, but the rules of the game in America is whoever has money gets to lobby Congress over immigration. So better start saving those pennies and start your own PAC!

That ship has sailed.

 

[First]

No one who chants this globalist slogan is able to give a solid reason WHY/HOW diversity is such a strength - only that you're a racist/bigot/xenophobe if you don't believe it.

And not all races provide better genetics, as found in the world IQ charts.

A little more definition would also be nice for "diversity" because it currently means "anything but whites".

Link please. Predictable wimp out in 3, 2, 1...

 

[ivwshane]

No one who chants this globalist slogan is able to give a solid reason WHY/HOW diversity is such a strength - only that you're a racist/bigot/xenophobe if you don't believe it.

And not all races provide better genetics, as found in the world IQ charts.

A little more definition would also be nice for "diversity" because it currently means "anything but whites".

I've got over 200 years of American history that shows diversity is a strength, you anti American piece of shit.

 

[brycejones]

I've got over 200 years of American history that shows diversity is a strength, you anti American piece of shit.

Well he is Canadian.....