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keichan82

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I'm tired of waiting for the OCZ EB to be in stock. I got all my parts except my MoBo and Memory.

I can probably get DFI Expert, but am debating whether or not to get the ASUS A8N32 SLI instead. I read that the Expert either come working fine or bugged. ASUS seems to be more stable. They are hard to get as well. What you guys think?

As for the memory, I was going to get 2 x 1GB OCZ EB PC4000 but they have been OOS everywhere for the past week. Newegg posted ETA to be 8am this morning so I woke up early and its still OOS. Please help me pick out good memory. Price can be around 300's for 2 X 1GB preferbly > or = PC4000

I have the Opteron 175 0543 and want to know how it will OC.
Will post results. I'm tired of just starring at my Opty. Please help me pick parts!!!
 
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The thing is, there are only 2 types of ICs being used for these 1G modules, which are Infineon or Micron. Micron chips are used for Ballistix, and the rest of them are Infineons. I've heard about Samsung UCCC being used for 1G modules, but do not know any brand or product. It must be very rare. So, it's either Ballistix or the rest. The rest basically are just binned/labeled differently. I'd go with a known quality company's cheapest modules.

 
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kaishaku72

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I thought I could do my mobo and cpu justice with good PC4000 or something.

I had this lined up in my cart for now... PC3200 OCZ 2x1024:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210

I am willing to spend more money for something better and perhaps
even wait a week or three... I can borrow some PC3200 from other
systems for my new machine until I decide on the perfect PC4000.

EDIT: I have a DFI nf4 Ultra and San Diego 3700+
 
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i bought the Asus (from a guy on this very board lol) they are a bitch to find for sure. I can say this about it: It's rock stable and overclocks like a dream. My Opteron 148 is running @ 2.9 on stock voltage with no issues at all.
 
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Bobthelost

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I've got everything i need to build my computer except the CPU, which is, yep, you guessed it, out of stock!
 
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Just get 2GB of Ballistix.
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Seriously. Several people are selling theirs for $275 in FS/FT. Most of these are known to hit 300MHz 3-3-3; 250MHz 2-2-2 YMMV
 
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Skott

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Buying anything this time of year is a pain. Its why I wait till after all the winter holidays (Thanksgiving - New Years) are over before trying to buy anything. This holiday year there are alot of paper launches from the various manufacturers. They say its availble but supplies are extremely low to nonexistant.
 
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kaishaku72

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I am not sure about the Ballistix, given the great number of newegg reviews mentioning RMA.

I would be especially concerned to see many people selling theirs in a tech-savvy forum.
 
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kaishaku72

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Do any of these run those "stock" timings at 1T?

What about these G.Skills:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820231021

Are all these using the same chips?

An OCZ rep told me this a few months back:
Since Samsung TCC5/TCCD is an x32MB IC, it would be impossible to make a 1GB TCC5/TCCD-based module that would do 2-2-2 timings. Our 512MB and 1GB DIMMS are Double Sided. In the case of the 512MB, it's a 32x8 Double-Sided Arrangement, with the 1GB modules it's a 64x8 arrangement.
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So, what chips are all these current 1GB modules?

Maybe this also explains the shortage on the OCZ EB 4000.
They are Infineon chips according to dfi-street.

EDIT: bad
tag.
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kaishaku72

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The Ballistix you mention uses Micron 5B-D chips.
The OCZ you mention uses Samsung UCCC chips. (same as the G.Skill I linked)

The Mushkin, not sure... maybe Hynix D43, whatever that is.

Still, no Samsung TCCD... So what's the next best thing?

You might do well to pick from your remaining choices based
on the chips used and your desired use of those chips...

The Micron 5B-D seems ok. Can't find any info on the UCCC,
but I might get those in the G.Skills kit since they're so cheap.

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24719
 
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kaishaku72

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After reading techpowerup.com reviews and much more I think 2x1GB
preference as it stands in the near future will go down something like this...

1. Infineon CE-6 modules, OCZ EB 4000 && Mushkin Redline XP4000 2GB
2. UCCC modules, Linked OCZ 4000 && G.Skills 4000
3. Crucial/Micron modules, as in Ballistix

You can order the Mushkin Redline from their site.
PCB is BrainPower, same as OCZ, supposedly the best.

For over $100 cheaper you can go with UCCC modules.

The G.Skills PCB is also BrainPower. With all this in mind, I think it is
easy to see why the G.Skills 4000 for $217 is so well rated on Newegg.
It went up in price since I started asking about it in here...

Crucial/Micron seem to suffer from quality issues as noted
in newegg reviews, and some think they are overworked.

I will go with cheap UCCC and leave the Infineon waiting to others.

Will Samsung make TCCD chips for 1GB dimms?
 
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keichan82

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Thanks for the replies. i am down to 2:
Mushkin Extreme 3-4-3-8 for $240
or
Mushkin Redline 3-3-2-8 for $305
 
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I love my G.Skill, runs 24/7 at 265mhz, will go to 275+ when I push it. Cheap too. :thumbsup:
 
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kaishaku72

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If it's the XP 4000 Redline 2GB kit with Infineon chips then it's
probably the best choice and should do as well as the OCZ EB.

http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/memory_detail.asp?ID=273

As far as I remember Mushkin was well known before OCZ so
it may even be better, plus they seem to have a better supply
of the Infineon chips? ie. The modules are actually available.

I opted for the 2nd choice, UCCC modules, G.Skill specifically.
The OCZ with UCCC has a heavy rebate and comes to about
just $20 more than the G.Skill so that is an option for those
unwilling to "risk" the new name G.Skill.
 
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Meh, just as a head's up, G.Skill isn't really "new"

They've been around for a while, & they mainly specialize in high end RAM.
Hang around XS.org forums...there's a guy or two there who works for G.Skill...lots of good stuff they have.
That being said, i still prefer Mushkin.

Right now, they really seem to have the best high end price/performance 2x1024 MB kits out there :)
 
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kaishaku72

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Meh, it isn't "really" new. But it isn't "really" not new. :p

It is popular and well known outside the US.

Now that is changing. If I am wrong, that could not be and there would be less
Newegg reviews advocating trust in this "not-really-new-but-unknown" brand.
It is also noted, presumably due to the "not-really-new-but-unknown" status,
that Newegg is (or was recently) one of two carriers of this ram in the US.

Anyway, I said "new name".
 
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lopri

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With so many 1G DIMMs coming out @stock 2-3-2-5, why go with CAS 3? :confused:
I have 2 x 1G OCZ Titanium modules, and despite that they are not advertised as OC-friendly, mines do 2-3-2-5 up to 220MHz, and 2.5-3-2-5 up to 250MHz.
 
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