I'm surprised they still make cars without push button start

[imagoon]

My Ducati has an RFID chip in the key as well. You cannot hotwire the bike without that chip. A thief would need a complete ECU to hotwire my bike and ride it away.

That is exactly what they do also.

 

[Fenixgoon]

i still like turning a key better. i love hearing my engine come to life as i turn the key. pushing a button is just...so much less interesting.

 

[JulesMaximus]

i still like turning a key better. i love hearing my engine come to life as i turn the key. pushing a button is just...so much less interesting.

See, I love not hearing anything when I push the start button. I also love driving down residential streets and through parking lots on pure electric making no noise at all. Getting 600 miles out of a tank of gas is pretty cool too! :biggrin:

 

[gorcorps]

i still like turning a key better. i love hearing my engine come to life as i turn the key. pushing a button is just...so much less interesting.

Then you might like what my Rogue has. It's still a smart key but instead of a push button you turn the key assembly like normal. You just don't need to actually put a key in the ignition.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

There are a lot of really odd compromises that manufacturers make on the lower end cars. I picked up a 2013 Fiesta and realized that none of the following are even available options:
-Automatic headlights
-Push button start
-Rear camera (or any parking assist)

 

[Zenmervolt]

There are a lot of really odd compromises that manufacturers make on the lower end cars. I picked up a 2013 Fiesta and realized that none of the following are even available options:
-Automatic headlights
-Push button start
-Rear camera (or any parking assist)

Automatic headlights are less than worthless. They respond purely to ambient light and not to actual visibility conditions and the end result is that on foggy days or days with overcast grey sky where contrast is significantly reduced a bunch of idiots are driving around without their lights on because the automatic system isn't smart enough to know that even though fog may be bright, the headlights are still necessary for other cars to be able to see you. Automatic headlights are more of a hazard than a help.

And if you need a rear camera to help you park a car as small as the Fiesta, you need to get the eff off the road because you're obviously not capable of driving safely.

ZV

 

[waggy]

-Rear camera (or any parking assist)

whaaA? ia fiesta? lol

 

[NutBucket]

Do you really need a rear camera on such a tiny car? Its a lifesaver for our SUV but if you can't park a Fiesta you probably shouldn't be driving.

 

[pauldun170]

I prefer a simple piece of metal that I can go ahead replicate for $2.
As much as I enjoy spending $200-$400 to replace a "key" or transmitter at the dealer, I've come to appreciate my antiquated vehicles.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Automatic headlights are less than worthless. They respond purely to ambient light and not to actual visibility conditions and the end result is that on foggy days or days with overcast grey sky where contrast is significantly reduced a bunch of idiots are driving around without their lights on because the automatic system isn't smart enough to know that even though fog may be bright, the headlights are still necessary for other cars to be able to see you. Automatic headlights are more of a hazard than a help.

And if you need a rear camera to help you park a car as small as the Fiesta, you need to get the eff off the road because you're obviously not capable of driving safely.

ZV

My primary vehicle has been a truck for the past 10 years, so I am used to manual headlights. That said, the somewhat hidden (below and to the left of the steering wheel) location of the switch and lack of a dash indicator is somewhat odd. Most of the newer cars I have driven have a similar switch location, but use dash indicators and have automatic headlight options so it is not much of an issue.

And hey, the Fiesta is a small car, but the cameras are rather nice to have in any vehicle just to be able to tell whether you have 8 inches or 3 inches of space left.

I am not saying that it is in any way needed, just that it is rather odd that these things are not even an option at any trim level.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

i've unlocked my car with the mechanical key only once, when the battery in the remote was dead, so keyless entry isn't a big deal to me. i would rather not have my keys swinging around from the ignition, however.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I prefer a simple piece of metal that I can go ahead replicate for $2.
As much as I enjoy spending $200-$400 to replace a "key" or transmitter at the dealer, I've come to appreciate my antiquated vehicles.

replicating ignition keys for $2? your cars must be pushing 30 years

 

[Greenman]

My bike is key-less, it sucks when your two hundred miles away from home and the battery in the fob goes dead. First you have to figure out that the problem is the key fob, then you have try to remember the override code you made 4 years ago to get the thing to start.
I stood next to my bike waving that stupid little keyfob around like Hitler at a youth rally for half an hour before I could remember that damn code.

 

[Doppel]

Even some motorcycles have this now.

When I rented that Lotus years ago I got the keys, went out and folded myself into the driver's seat and proceeded to fumble about for 10 minutes trying to figure out how to start the darned thing. I gave up and walked back in to Enterprise and asked how to start the car. Turns out you have to put the key in the ignition, which I did, and turn the ignition on, which I did, then you push a button on the key fob and hold it while you push the start button on the dash. It is not intuitive at all.

That is dumb. There is/was a land rover just a few years ago I was in that required the key fob to be inserted into a hole in the dash and then a button on the dash pushed, which was idiotic. It ended up being more steps than a conventional key, just so that you could press a button.

I prefer a simple piece of metal that I can go ahead replicate for $2.
As much as I enjoy spending $200-$400 to replace a "key" or transmitter at the dealer, I've come to appreciate my antiquated vehicles.

Thing is even cars without push-button may have a very expensive replacement because it has an RFID chip in it.

 

[manimal]

See, I love not hearing anything when I push the start button. I also love driving down residential streets and through parking lots on pure electric making no noise at all. Getting 600 miles out of a tank of gas is pretty cool too! :biggrin:

One of my employees walked past my screen when that picture of your dash was up jules and he said Hey 420 mile trip!. I said bro your taking a piss test tomorrow lol

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Once you have push button start and proximity keyless entry you really have no desire to ever go back to a manual key.

Its a great feature.

 

[ViviTheMage]

my 08 135i has it ... awesome feature, but it was an add on ... $500 or so at the time.

 

[mmntech]

I've driven lots of vehicles with push starts, and I have to say I still find putting a key in the ignition and cranking it to be more satisfying.

 

[LTC8K6]

When I approach my car it gets ready for me by turning on the interior lights even before I touch the door handle.

My car has breakfast ready for me when I wake up.

 

[DominionSeraph]

How do you find your car without the ability to make it flash its lights on command?

*clunk* (flash flash)
"Ah, there it is."

 

[JulesMaximus]

My car has breakfast ready for me when I wake up.

LOL! Nice! :thumbsup:

Now that's a feature I'd pay $500 extra for!

 

[pauldun170]

replicating ignition keys for $2? your cars must be pushing 30 years

Last one left is a 20 year old Kawasaki in the Garage...rest of em are wunderkeys

 

[boomhower]

My work car has it and I love it. Jump in the car and go. Only time I touch the key fob is to open the trunk as we have the exterior trunk button disabled. I don't know the additional cost but I wouldn't think it would be more than $500 as a stand alone option.

 

[BUTCH1]

My car has the factory remote start that automatically starts the heat or AC (depending on outside temp), it's a nice feature but I'm nervous about using it because someone might think that if they gain access to the car they could drive off, (impossible, it won't shift out of P or do anything until the key is in the ignition). What would be really cool is the ability to remotely roll down the windows, even with the AC at full blast a black car in FL gets insanely hot, with the windows down it would cool so much quicker..

EDIT, shoot, I Google'd it and they do make 'em, just plugs into the OBD port and your good to go
EDIT2, shoot, it's only for Focus or late model GM..

 

[gorcorps]

My bike is key-less, it sucks when your two hundred miles away from home and the battery in the fob goes dead. First you have to figure out that the problem is the key fob, then you have try to remember the override code you made 4 years ago to get the thing to start.
I stood next to my bike waving that stupid little keyfob around like Hitler at a youth rally for half an hour before I could remember that damn code.

That's odd. There's still a key inside my fob you can pop out and use in case the battery dies.