I'm straight but find myself almost preferring the company of...

[K1052]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont have any gay friends, but I have no problem hanging out with them. A couple years ago, I went out to a gay bar/club with a few straight friends and a few gay friends. I had a decent time.

Hrmm, you don't have any gay friends, but you went to a bar/club with a few gay friends.

Ok, which is it?

It's ok, you can come out of the closet now. We won't bite, well, not too hard.

lolz

 

[dougp]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
If you think about it, being gay might be the way to go! It would be like hanging out if the guys---watching sports, drinking beers, playing foozball, watching action movies...plus men buying you dinner and gifts on dates. I could handle that.

Now, if only we could get rid of that buttsecks issue. Maybe I could be a gay guy that doesn't put out?

haha - you only care about the buttsecks ... what about oral? You want to go down on another guy?

/skeered. :Q

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: UncleWai
You are a switch-hitter, it's ok.

I question bisexuality, does it exist really?

Yes.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: dreadpiratedoug

Originally posted by: Fritzo
If you think about it, being gay might be the way to go! It would be like hanging out if the guys---watching sports, drinking beers, playing foozball, watching action movies...plus men buying you dinner and gifts on dates. I could handle that.

Now, if only we could get rid of that buttsecks issue. Maybe I could be a gay guy that doesn't put out?

haha - you only care about the buttsecks ... what about oral? You want to go down on another guy?

/skeered. :Q

it's just a brojob

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: UncleWai
You are a switch-hitter, it's ok.

I question bisexuality, does it exist really?

I'd actually question straights or gays, and wonder if that really exists. I bet there is at least one person every man or woman would go "gay" for (or go "straight" for), they probably just never meet that person.

I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing, but it's not that far fetched.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: UncleWai
You are a switch-hitter, it's ok.

I question bisexuality, does it exist really?

everyone is to a degree. .

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
If you think about it, being gay might be the way to go! It would be like hanging out if the guys---watching sports, drinking beers, playing foozball, watching action movies...plus men buying you dinner and gifts on dates. I could handle that.

Now, if only we could get rid of that buttsecks issue. Maybe I could be a gay guy that doesn't put out?

Hey there, Peaches :lips:

 

[Platypus]

I'm not surprised, gay guys are just more fun to hang out with for the most part.

 

[seemingly random]

OP: could it be that you are an intellectual stimulation junky? Most but not all gays (non-bisexual) I've met are very smart, over-achievers since they feel they have something to prove.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

Get out into the real world and experience some life, then get back to us with a theory not based on myspace blog theorists

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
My friends are almost all women...probably a 5:1 ratio. I've always gotten along better with women.

right now, that seems to be the way I am. I would I say I get a long better with the women I work with than the guys. Not that there's a problem with the guys, its just that I don't have that much in common with them. They always talk about sports and I couldn't care less about sports.

then again, i don't really have all that much in common with the women either, but for some reason i find hanging out with them is easier.

It might be because one of my previous jobs was working with an almost all female staff.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
gay guys as friends. I've never had a homophobic thought that I can recall and get a hard on as fast as the next guy when I spy a sexy woman. But I find gay men make better friends on average. Strange or what?

It's probably the same dynamic of straight girls enjoying straight guys as friends, even ones they aren't looking to date. Women as friends (to a straight guy) are often easier to get along with, appreciative of the relationship, and not competitive with guy friend like they would be with another woman. They also often feel affirmed by having guy friends, and in turn, reciprocate with more positive energy in the relationship.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

This is sooooooo wrong. Gays (in general) imo have more self esteem issues than straights because of the internal and external conflicts experienced of being gay, often since youth. Not being accepted by their family (or simply the fear of it) can compound the issue greatly. And as for competing with male friends for manliness-ratings, no they probably don't much, but they often do compete among gay friends for gayness ratings (just like women can compete among women as well.)

In general it would be naive imo to say gays are healthier emotionally than straights.

 

[piasabird]

Interesting. Gives more meaning to the term Male Bonding.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

This is sooooooo wrong. Gays (in general) imo have more self esteem issues than straights because of the internal and external conflicts experienced of being gay, often since youth. Not being accepted by their family (or simply the fear of it) can compound the issue greatly. And as for competing with male friends for manliness-ratings, no they probably don't much, but they often do compete among gay friends for gayness ratings (just like women can compete among women as well.)

In general it would be naive imo to say gays are healthier emotionally than straights.

Truth.

However, the latter statement about competition is not always true though does happen.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

Get out into the real world and experience some life, then get back to us with a theory not based on myspace blog theorists

By all means, I will let you continue with your important work researching myspace theorists. It is rather comical how you would infer that because you do not agree with an opinion, it must automatically be wrong and some how based on some myspace presumption of error. If myspace is an accurate indicator of a large cross section of public opinion, then it must not be wrong, making your failed presumption of my opinion flawed in its conception, professor.

 

[seemingly random]

Opinion - a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter - can be right or wrong.

 

[seemingly random]

Personal attacks are usually an indication of weak arguments when debating an issue.

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

This is sooooooo wrong. Gays (in general) imo have more self esteem issues than straights because of the internal and external conflicts experienced of being gay, often since youth. Not being accepted by their family (or simply the fear of it) can compound the issue greatly. And as for competing with male friends for manliness-ratings, no they probably don't much, but they often do compete among gay friends for gayness ratings (just like women can compete among women as well.)

In general it would be naive imo to say gays are healthier emotionally than straights.

Gays, in general, because of all these conflicts you mention, are generally more laid back in a social setting, and not as up tight about sexual posturing and proving how "gay" they might be. They are conditioned, so to speak, to be more naturally laid back because of these societal pressures you mentioned. Unlike being in some macho biker bar where a simple wrong look at some skanky biker babe can end up in a bar fight. You won't find hormonal male posturing like that among gays. At least not in my experience around friends who are.

And I never meant to infer they were more emotionally healthy, just not as up tight about social posturing in a group situation.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

Get out into the real world and experience some life, then get back to us with a theory not based on myspace blog theorists

By all means, I will let you continue with your important work researching myspace theorists. It is rather comical how you would infer that because you do not agree with an opinion, it must automatically be wrong and some how based on some myspace presumption of error. If myspace is an accurate indicator of a large cross section of public opinion, then it must not be wrong, making your failed presumption of my opinion flawed in its conception, professor.

I kind of agree with you...

Can't generalize, but from what I've seen, gay males are much better dressed and groomed, and know how to take care of themselves much better than heteros. Posh clothing, good conversation, a more refined view of the world.... I am really disgusted by the North-American "guy" thing of wearing sandals, short khaki/cargo pants, T-shirt and a baseball cap, plus carrying the obligatory 341 ml piss-beer bottle.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
gay guys as friends. I've never had a homophobic thought that I can recall and get a hard on as fast as the next guy when I spy a sexy woman. But I find gay men make better friends on average. Strange or what?

What's cuddling like?

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Well, I lived in the SF Bay Area and, unless I actively sought them out, I wasn't going to have many encounters with gay men. To be exposed to a sample of any magnitutde you'd need to deliberately place yourself right in the middle of that scene.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
I dont have any gay friends, but I have no problem hanging out with them. A couple years ago, I went out to a gay bar/club with a few straight friends and a few gay friends. I had a decent time.

Hrmm, you don't have any gay friends, but you went to a bar/club with a few gay friends.

Ok, which is it?

It's ok, you can come out of the closet now. We won't bite, well, not too hard.

Sorry, let me clarify. A few years ago, I did know a few gay people who were mutual friends with other people I knew. I don't hang out with that crowd anymore, and I havent seen them for a while now.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Not strange at all. In fact, it is normal. Males spend most of their lives trying to bond with other males. Just look at adolescents. Females and males group together for support, the other sex has kooties and is to be avoided at all costs. Then, when puberty kicks in, most gravitate towards the opposite sex naturally, as hormones take over.

Now, the fact you prefer to hang out with gay men, versus straight men is not really that odd, either. Straight men are in constant mental (and physical) battles with other men over their supposed and presumed masculinity. Gay men are usually content with themselves and most others, and not in some kind of constant, fake materialistic impression mode. They are not continuously trying to be more manly than every one else, and thus competing with you in conversation and the attention of females, like in a bar scene.

And with regards to bisexuality, we are an actively bisexual species. Just look at the behaviors of the higher mammals like apes and dolphins for a good example. You can not force one preference over the other, society and religion forces this on us. And the result is a lot of screwed up people who need therapy, booze or drugs for the rest of their lives just to cope with these mixed feelings towards both sexes. I think the more repressed a society is sexually, the higher the rates of random violence, and many studies can back up this theory.

This is sooooooo wrong. Gays (in general) imo have more self esteem issues than straights because of the internal and external conflicts experienced of being gay, often since youth. Not being accepted by their family (or simply the fear of it) can compound the issue greatly. And as for competing with male friends for manliness-ratings, no they probably don't much, but they often do compete among gay friends for gayness ratings (just like women can compete among women as well.)

In general it would be naive imo to say gays are healthier emotionally than straights.

Gays, in general, because of all these conflicts you mention, are generally more laid back in a social setting, and not as up tight about sexual posturing and proving how "gay" they might be. They are conditioned, so to speak, to be more naturally laid back because of these societal pressures you mentioned. Unlike being in some macho biker bar where a simple wrong look at some skanky biker babe can end up in a bar fight. You won't find hormonal male posturing like that among gays. At least not in my experience around friends who are.

And I never meant to infer they were more emotionally healthy, just not as up tight about social posturing in a group situation.

You're inferring that 'societal pressures' lead gays to respond by laying back and chilling more. That's is by definition imo the exact opposite of human nature.

And posturing, there can be as much posturing in male gays as posturing in anyone else, except its sometimes posturing of femininity as opposed to masculinity. Among other things, that's what insecurity in people leads to, and gays are certainly no different in that regard than straights.

 

[nageov3t]

that's a shame.

I, for one, hate all my breeder frenemies and only hang out with them to make me feel better about myself