I'm sorry Mrs. Jones, your son Timmy failed math

[imported_Lothar]

I had an uncle give me $20 for every A I got, $10 for every B I got, and $1 for every C I got on my middle school report card.
I don't see how this is any different. :roll:

 

[Linflas]

I don't understand being upset with McDonalds. If they want to get upset with anyone it should be the school board, they are the ones that approved and allowed this.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Linflas
I don't understand being upset with McDonalds. If they want to get upset with anyone it should be the school board, they are the ones that approved and allowed this.

Yup.

I don't think it should have gone on the report cards.

Actual incentive would not having the crap beaten out of you for getting piss poor grades. Fear is an excellent motivator.

edit: and I had a reading program at my school also. Some sort of book reading thing, except the coupon was for a personal pizza at round table. I loved reading so I was always able to go out with the family to round table every week while the program was on.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: skace
Book It worked well. But it was a really small pizza for a real ton of reading. I mean you'd have to be an exceptionally motivated fat person to gain weight off that plan.

just read dr seuss books

I did...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Back in the day, a local arcade gave out tokens for games based on grades. It seems like an A = 2 tokens, B = 1 token.

I miss the golden age of arcades.

Arcades may be more or less dead in much of the country, but the ones that still exist are freakin sweet. I went to on in Vegas that's owned by Sega called GameWorks (Sega still makes a lot of arcade machines), and almost all of the machines were full-body interactive machines, like racing games where you sit in a car (some of which tilt and shake and stuff), skiing games where you stand on skis, even a hang gliding game where you hold onto a bar to control yourself. Hell of a fun time.

At Cedar Point in Ohio they have an arcade that has a ton of really old games - like from the 70s. And even older pinball machines. Unfortunately a lot of them were non-functional or semi-functional.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BlinderBomber

2 or less absences

FEWER! We can't even get it right on report cards, jesus christ.

Heh... after years of seeing express aisles at grocery stores that say "10 items or less" I was really impressed to see one that said "10 items or fewer." I forget what store it was at... might have been Target.

 

[sdifox]

A literate fatass is better than a skinny ignoramus.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

My 5th grade daughter just meet her advanced reading goals and as a reward the school is taking her and the other kids who met their AR goals to a Nuggets game next week. if they meet their goals for the next go around they get a trip to 6 flags (late spring trip before school ends). I see absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

My 5th grade daughter just meet her advanced reading goals and as a reward the school is taking her and the other kids who met their AR goals to a Nuggets game next week. if they meet their goals for the next go around they get a trip to 6 flags. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

That is part of what is wrong with a lot of kids today. They think they need to be rewarded for every little thing they do and that by the very fact that they exist the world owes them something.

They are already, for most kids, getting a free education that will help them later in life if they take it seriously.

One question I have is how are the schools paying for these trips?

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

My 5th grade daughter just meet her advanced reading goals and as a reward the school is taking her and the other kids who met their AR goals to a Nuggets game next week. if they meet their goals for the next go around they get a trip to 6 flags. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

That is part of what is wrong with a lot of kids today. They think they need to be rewarded for every little thing they do and that by the very fact that they exist the world owes them something.

They are already, for most kids, getting a free education that will help them later in life if they take it seriously.

One question I have is how are the schools paying for these trips?

wow, just wow. the kids are getting rewarded for working hard and meeting goals. a additude like yours would kill any kids desire to work hard.

lets put this into prospective. say you work hard at your job, are the best in your dept and when your review comes around you get no raise, no bonus, not even a thank you. how would that make you feel? would you be motivated to continue to work hard? i dont think so.

numerous PTO fund raisers is how the trips are being paid for.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

My 5th grade daughter just meet her advanced reading goals and as a reward the school is taking her and the other kids who met their AR goals to a Nuggets game next week. if they meet their goals for the next go around they get a trip to 6 flags. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

That is part of what is wrong with a lot of kids today. They think they need to be rewarded for every little thing they do and that by the very fact that they exist the world owes them something.

They are already, for most kids, getting a free education that will help them later in life if they take it seriously.

One question I have is how are the schools paying for these trips?

wow, just wow. the kids are getting rewarded for working hard and meeting goals. a additude like yours would kill any kids desire to work hard.

lets put this into prospective. say you work hard at your job, are the best in your dept and when your review comes around you get no raise, no bonus, not even a thank you. how would that make you feel? would you be motivated to continue to work hard? i dont think so.

numerous PTO fund raisers is how the trips are being paid for.

:thumbsup:

The days when a kid's reward for doing well is that they don't get beat with a belt are gone. Positive reinforcement FTW.

 

[Whisper]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

My 5th grade daughter just meet her advanced reading goals and as a reward the school is taking her and the other kids who met their AR goals to a Nuggets game next week. if they meet their goals for the next go around they get a trip to 6 flags. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

That is part of what is wrong with a lot of kids today. They think they need to be rewarded for every little thing they do and that by the very fact that they exist the world owes them something.

They are already, for most kids, getting a free education that will help them later in life if they take it seriously.

One question I have is how are the schools paying for these trips?

wow, just wow. the kids are getting rewarded for working hard and meeting goals. a additude like yours would kill any kids desire to work hard.

lets put this into prospective. say you work hard at your job, are the best in your dept and when your review comes around you get no raise, no bonus, not even a thank you. how would that make you feel? would you be motivated to continue to work hard? i dont think so.

numerous PTO fund raisers is how the trips are being paid for.

Agreed. I don't work with children, but I don't know that you'd find many psychologists who would say external motivation--used appropriately--is a bad thing. You need to experience external reward before said reward can be internalized and converted to internal motivation.

Children don't think in terms of what's good in the long run; no matter how much you tell them, they cannot grasp the concept as well as adults. That's why you have to pattern in terms behaviors and consequences so that they can eventually come to appreciate the prospect of delayed rewards.

Hell, I'd argue that even if a kid actually said something along the lines of, "it's ok mommy, you don't have to give me money for my grades, I know it's for my own good," he/she would be doing it largely for the positive verbal reinforcement received from parents/other adults in response to the statement.

 

[Chryso]

I have yet to see McDonalds force feed anyone.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Chryso
I have yet to see McDonalds force feed anyone.

i have. while driving by the stoped my car. grabbed me out of my van. threw me into a chair and tied me up.

they forced me to eat 2 cheeseburgers and a order of frys

i tried to fight them off but i lost.


..oh wait maybe not.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

Wait, what?

Schools shouldn't reward kids for good behavior? Does the same apply to punishing bad behavior? That's a mind bottling concept to me.

'Splain.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Pathetic. How about the damn parents do their jobs and make sure the kids are studying, doing their homework and getting good grades instead of the schools handing out vouchers for hamburgers, pizzas, etc... to the kids in order to bride them to study?

Wait? What am I saying? Hell that would require some responsibility on the part of the parents instead of them relying on the school system to act like a nanny.

Nevermind...I guess I just lost my mind there for a minute and expected people to take an interest in their kids. What a dumbass I am.

yes you are. there is nothing wrong with providing a kid a little incentive to get a good grade. weather it be money or food or a movie, what is wrong with rewarding somebody with something of value for their hard work?

if you have kids and dont reward your kids when they do good then you are the irresponsible one.

The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

Do you have a thing against gold stars too? If anything it teaches some personal responsibility to the kids. The kids know of the reward, they know what they have to do to get it. They're even intuitive enough to blame themselves when they fall short. Combine that with encouragement ("Work a little harder and you'll get the reward next time, Billy"..."Good going, Billy, here's your reward for a job well done.") and the kids actually become motivated on their own, and taught that not everything is free.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Phoenix86

Originally posted by: shinerburke
The parents rewarding the kid is one thing. The school system doing it is quite another. The school system is there to teach, not to act as a nanny or parental replacement.

Wait, what?

Schools shouldn't reward kids for good behavior? Does the same apply to punishing bad behavior? That's a mind bottling concept to me.

'Splain.

Rewarding or punishing my kids is my responsibilty, not the school's.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
We received free Pizza Hut personal pan pizzas for good grades when I was younger. Yum.

I remember that. Good times. That always made me happy.



For those with issues on this matter, you need to ask yourself if you have witnessed this causing problems with the kids first hand or if you just believe it could potentially become a problem for whatever reason you conjure up. I don't believe it will cause any actual issues and if it does then that is bridge that should be crossed when we get there.

Seriously, who cares?

 

[Anonemous]

mmm Free Happy meals for perfect attendance... I miss those childhood years...

 

[waggy]

I have no problem with this. my daughter gets a free pizza every month for reading the book list.

Also growing up i got paid for grades. something like $50 for each A, $25 for a B nothing for a C have to pay 25 for a D and $50 for a F.

IF i got straight A's i got $200

if i got straight A's all 4 years i got a new car (wich i did not get heh)

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: waggy
I have no problem with this. my daughter gets a free pizza every month for reading the book list.

Also growing up i got paid for grades. something like $50 for each A, $25 for a B nothing for a C have to pay 25 for a D and $50 for a F.

IF i got straight A's i got $200

if i got straight A's all 4 years i got a new car (wich i did not get heh)

I got money too. If I got straight A's I was bought any video game that I wanted. Otherwise I got cash for each grade but it wasn't nearly as much as what you got.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy
I have no problem with this. my daughter gets a free pizza every month for reading the book list.

Also growing up i got paid for grades. something like $50 for each A, $25 for a B nothing for a C have to pay 25 for a D and $50 for a F.

IF i got straight A's i got $200

if i got straight A's all 4 years i got a new car (wich i did not get heh)

Holy hell, and you're an old man! I got $20 for straight As!

But wait... after you paid them for the Ds and Fs, how much did you usually end up with? I usually got straight As, so my parents didn't need to reward me much. If my brother had ever gotten straight As in one quarter, that probably would have been worthy of a car. And he still wouldn't have done it, even though he was capable of it.

 

[hypn0tik]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
We received free Pizza Hut personal pan pizzas for good grades when I was younger. Yum.

I remember that. Best incentive evar!!!!!