I'm so fscking sick of computer crap

[acemcmac]

1) COOLING COOLING COOLING

even my 9800 AIW crashed with the stock cooler from overheating!!! you NEED AN ARTIC COOLER! for $20 you'd be a nut not to get one

2) Power... I know there's some disagreement here... but I'd really reccomend a better PSU to go with that expensive rig there...

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
1) COOLING COOLING COOLING

even my 9800 AIW crashed with the stock cooler from overheating!!! you NEED AN ARTIC COOLER! for $20 you'd be a nut not to get one

2) Power... I know there's some disagreement here... but I'd really reccomend a better PSU to go with that expensive rig there...

You shouldn't NEED any aftermarket cooling. If you do the card should be RMAed.

 

[Schfifty Five]

For those talking about the power supply...everyone is correct in a way. 430watts should be enough, then again it might not be. It's not really the max wattage you need to worry about, but rather how much current you are getting for all your voltage lines. I forgot the numbers, but it is recommended to have a certain amp going to your 12V line (you could probably search an OC forum for the right numbers).

I am using DFI Lan party 4 Ultra D w/ AMD 64 3000+ OCed and 6600GT, 2HDs, 1GB ram and the recommended PSU was 480watts. I'm using a 450watt cooler master and it runs fine. I'm not even getting the recommended amount of current supplied to the 12V line (DFI recommends 26A, I have like 22A) and I have a solid computer.

But a few things to check:

1. Make sure your mobo has all the power supply connectors connected. My DFI board requires the 24 pin connecter, 12V connector (a square cpu 4 pin), and another 2x 5V (molex 4 pin connector and 3 pin fan connector). Actually, I probably have the 12V or 5V mislabeled, but the point is my MOBO is power hungry and requires all those connectors plugged in. So make sure you have all power connectors plugged into your mobo that you can.

2. RAM settings. Make sure you are running at the recommended timing settings/voltages and you could always have looser timings which would allow more stability. If you are OCing, then you really need to make sure your RAM settings are well tweaked.

3. CPU settings. Again, like RAM, make sure your settings are on the recommended settings. If you aren't OCing, make sure you have enough voltage, your LDT/HTT stuff is all correct, etc. Underclocking should be a last resort.

I recommend first above all other things, to get an OCZ powerstream 520Watt ATX 2.0 PSU. It might be pricy, but buy it from Fry's or something to test it out and if ti don't work, return it

 

[kukyfrope]

Sometimes the newest drivers aren't the best for your motherboard (not to mention I wouldn't wish an Epox board on anybody from what I've experienced with them in the past).
Use the drivers that came with your motherboard and graphics card then later, if everything is ok, after making a backup of your Windows install, install newer versions of drivers.

My advice on which PSU may be a bit dated as it's been 9 months since I built my computer. My way of doing power is making sure I have well over what I plan to use.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
seasonic 430w

THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM
A 430W PSU on a 7800GT? It's crashing because your computer isn't getting enough power. You should have AT LEAST a 520W OCZ Powerstream or equivilant in there, not a cheap-ass $50 PSU.

Were you born stupid, or did you have to work on it?

Originally posted by: DurocShark
Just try a better psu. You might be pleasantly surprised.

Another one! You really don't recognize the brand Seasonic?

 

[pontifex]

i run 3 hard drives, amd athlon 64 3700+, 7800GT, audigy 2, dvd rom, dvd burner on a 480w fine.

 

[bugle25]

Originally posted by: zixxer
in general. I wish it was cheaper to have an xbox 360 or something.

I have an epox 9npa+ultra, 7800gt, seasonic 430w, 1gb of kingston hyperx

ALL newest drivers (nf4 mobo from nvidia, video from nvidia, etc etc) and I STILL get crashes during half life 2. ALL I WANT TO DO IS PLAY MY FREAKING GAME!!!!!! I'm so freaking sick of this ARG. blue screens about nf4_disp.dll, arg arg arg


EDIT:

I've run memtest for 14 hours (search for threads about this crap) as well as prime95 on both cores, and the vid card (according to vid properties nvidia crap) is nowhere near overheating

Tell me about it, I have problems running WW2 FPS games on my Athlon XP rig, but no problems on my P4 Dell.

 

[rodneykm]

Ehh...macs...gross.

 

[Gerbil333]

I hate computers too. They're never fast or quiet enough, and they're never reliable.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Koing
Fresh install.

I wrestled with my PC for 8hrs yesterday to get the dam thing to work with 6HD's connected to it...I got it working finally though :thumbsup:

Koing

lol a guy here in the comp-soc bough 8 500Gig drives lol!

i know what your all thinking..................thatsa lotta p00n!

WTF?! That is a lot of space. I have smaller sizes as I don't like to waste them

Koing

 

[Koing]

I had 6HD, DVDRW on a 300W Enermax and a 6800AGP. No problems but on advice of some AT I'm upgrading to a Seasonic S12 500W as I'd rather not gamble with my pc gear

Koing

 

[hytek369]

a string of bad luck can make anyone bitter

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: hytek369
a string of bad luck can make anyone bitter

Indeed

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
FOUR hard drives
TWO optical drives
and a top of the line video card

and you want to put a 430W on that? Excuse me if I may pull a Dane Cook but "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKIN MIND?"

In all honesty, a good power source is vital to every new computer being built and I've seen SO MANY people put ****** PSUs in their computers and have them 1) Huge crashing problems or 2) Blown up PSUs. I recently built a new comp for a friend with a no-name 500W PSU. He had 4400 X2,7800GT, 2 Optical drives, 1 IDE hard drive. It blew up within 48hrs of me assembling it.

Granted I run an overclocked 3000 Athlon64/DFI/6600GT/2 SATA/1 Optical but I still built with a 520 OCZ and was glad I didn't skimp as I've had no crashing problems like you said.

Try a different, more powerful PSU and see if it remedies your problems. Crashing during games is usually power problems or overheating, as it puts more load on your system as a whole than memtest or prime95 since neither of those use the graphics card.

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
Don't count on any old PSU with a wattage rating you're looking for. A good PSU needs to be a proven good PSU like:

OCZ Powerstream (520W, as suggested already)
PC Power & Cooling (any of their PSUs are great)

A good place to start researching is (although you may not be overclocking): Power Supply Forum on OCForums.com

both these people are moronsk, and shouldn't talk if they don't know what they're talking about, furthur spreading their moronic crap. Seasonic is an awesome brand name and they make some of the best power supplies. that power supply should be more than enought for your system. the 7800gt uses less power than its predecessor the 6800gt, and very very few systems have any real need for a 500+ watt psu, other than to furthur elongate the user's e-penis.

 

[kag]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
1) COOLING COOLING COOLING

even my 9800 AIW crashed with the stock cooler from overheating!!! you NEED AN ARTIC COOLER! for $20 you'd be a nut not to get one

Mine fvcking died on me even if I had an Artic Cooler than ran fine for a few months. I paid 250$ for a card that is not frigging dead. I'm also so sick and tired of fighting with my computer, I bought an XBox and there's no way I'm going to put "performance" parts in my future computers!

 

[Bulldog13]

To the tard sassing seasonic and praising ocz.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/11/stress_test/page24.html


k now diaf

 

[Acanthus]

I love you "electronics experts" that seem to know everything about power consumption, maybe its not the 12v rail failing, but the 5v rail or the 3.3v...

Seasonics are good, they are not some godly device with bottomless power, especially the cheaper ones.

 

[Bulldog13]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I love you "electronics experts" that seem to know everything about power consumption, maybe its not the 12v rail failing, but the 5v rail or the 3.3v...

Seasonics are good, they are not some godly device with bottomless power, especially the cheaper ones.

Prove it.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bulldog13

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I love you "electronics experts" that seem to know everything about power consumption, maybe its not the 12v rail failing, but the 5v rail or the 3.3v...

Seasonics are good, they are not some godly device with bottomless power, especially the cheaper ones.

Prove it.

Umm yeah ill get right on that, ill go build an identical system to his to prove that it could be the PSU. :roll:

Im saying the people insisting that the Seasonic cannot be the problem are wrong. It very well could be the problem, how do you know the unit isnt defective? How do you know that one of the rails isnt overtaxed?

Id format 1st and run it with less drives to see if stability improves, if it doesnt, replace the unit and see if that helps, or use a multimeter if you have one.

 

[Nocturnal]

There's something else wrong with one of your components. I can play HL2 and CS:S all day long without any crashes. My system specs are in my signature.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
Sometimes the newest drivers aren't the best for your motherboard (not to mention I wouldn't wish an Epox board on anybody from what I've experienced with them in the past).
Use the drivers that came with your motherboard and graphics card then later, if everything is ok, after making a backup of your Windows install, install newer versions of drivers.

My advice on which PSU may be a bit dated as it's been 9 months since I built my computer. My way of doing power is making sure I have well over what I plan to use.

You do realize that an X2-3800 with SLI'd 7800GTX system doesnt draw more than 250W at load?

 

[Darien]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
Sometimes the newest drivers aren't the best for your motherboard (not to mention I wouldn't wish an Epox board on anybody from what I've experienced with them in the past).
Use the drivers that came with your motherboard and graphics card then later, if everything is ok, after making a backup of your Windows install, install newer versions of drivers.

My advice on which PSU may be a bit dated as it's been 9 months since I built my computer. My way of doing power is making sure I have well over what I plan to use.

You do realize that an X2-3800 with SLI'd 7800GTX system doesnt draw more than 250W at load?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/12/09/seven_of_nvidia/page40.html

Granted they're not using a 3800+, and instead are using an FX-57, but they got >300 W (close to 350) with SLI'd 7800 gtxs.

I'm not sure if I can belive the difference between a 3800+ and a FX-57 is ~100 W.