I'm so fscking sick of computer crap

[kukyfrope]

FOUR hard drives
TWO optical drives
and a top of the line video card

and you want to put a 430W on that? Excuse me if I may pull a Dane Cook but "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKIN MIND?"

In all honesty, a good power source is vital to every new computer being built and I've seen SO MANY people put ****** PSUs in their computers and have them 1) Huge crashing problems or 2) Blown up PSUs. I recently built a new comp for a friend with a no-name 500W PSU. He had 4400 X2,7800GT, 2 Optical drives, 1 IDE hard drive. It blew up within 48hrs of me assembling it.

Granted I run an overclocked 3000 Athlon64/DFI/6600GT/2 SATA/1 Optical but I still built with a 520 OCZ and was glad I didn't skimp as I've had no crashing problems like you said.

Try a different, more powerful PSU and see if it remedies your problems. Crashing during games is usually power problems or overheating, as it puts more load on your system as a whole than memtest or prime95 since neither of those use the graphics card.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
FOUR hard drives
TWO optical drives
and a top of the line video card

and you want to put a 430W on that? Excuse me if I may pull a Dane Cook but "ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKIN MIND?"

In all honesty, a good power source is vital to every new computer being built and I've seen SO MANY people put ****** PSUs in their computers and have them 1) Huge crashing problems or 2) Blown up PSUs. I recently built a new comp for a friend with a no-name 500W PSU. He had 4400 X2,7800GT, 2 Optical drives, 1 IDE hard drive. It blew up within 48hrs of me assembling it.

Granted I run an overclocked 3000 Athlon64/DFI/6600GT/2 SATA/1 Optical but I still built with a 520 OCZ and was glad I didn't skimp as I've had no crashing problems like you said.

Try a different, more powerful PSU and see if it remedies your problems. Crashing during games is usually power problems or overheating, as it puts more load on your system as a whole than memtest or prime95 since neither of those use the graphics card.

wtf fine. I just bought this damn thing.



arg. anyone wanna buy a good psu? lol

 

[zixxer]

ok I bought it at case-mod.com 33 days ago. I emaild them... maybe they'll let me trade up to a 500w... is that enough?

 

[kukyfrope]

Don't count on any old PSU with a wattage rating you're looking for. A good PSU needs to be a proven good PSU like:

OCZ Powerstream (520W, as suggested already)
PC Power & Cooling (any of their PSUs are great)

A good place to start researching is (although you may not be overclocking): Power Supply Forum on OCForums.com

 

[Goosemaster]

sorry to hear man...hav you tried running any benchmarks?

I agree with the PS diag as well. I am runnign WAY to much on my antec430w

 

[BurnItDwn]

Seasonic makes good power supplies.
Hard drives don't use any more then about 10-20 watts tops.
The video card will use around 100 watts MAX

I have no idea what CPU he has ... but even if it's a Dual Core CPU, a GOOD 430 watt power supply should be just fine.

You might want to check your voltage levels with something like motherboard monitor ... and see if anything dips too low when your system is under heavy stress.

If you see anything that is off by more then about a 10% margain of error ... then you should definatly consider swapping the power supply.

However, again I state that a quality 430 watt power supply should be perfectly capable of running that rig.



I don't trust OCZ (because of shoddy "PC3000" ram that couldn't even run stable at PC2700 speeds (back when PC2100 was king...)
I am also biased against Cyrix CPUs because they are garbage
And I do not like Hitachi or IBM hard drives due to a bitter experience I had with my 75GXP raid 0 array years back.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

I hate computers. I used to be obsessed with them, and I loved Apple.

I hate Apple and PC's or whatever. I'm happy with my outdated XP 2600+

I'll never upgrade again.

 

[So]

Ignore the power freaks. If you're concerned, get an actual multimter and check line voltages. I have 4hds, 2 optical drives and a 6800 GT along with 3 or 4 PCI cards running on a @ y/o 350W enermax rock stable.

Edit: forgot power rating

 

[slpaulson]

See if underclocking your processor helps. I've heard some of those EVGA cards are pre-overclocked a bit too far.

Also uninstall nvidia IDE drivers if you have them installed. Maybe up your ram voltage a notch too.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I hate computers. I used to be obsessed with them, and I loved Apple.

I hate Apple and PC's or whatever. I'm happy with my outdated XP 2600+

I'll never upgrade again.

:laugh:


It's d'em damn engineers...et's git'm boi! :|


:evil:

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I hate computers. I used to be obsessed with them, and I loved Apple.

I hate Apple and PC's or whatever. I'm happy with my outdated XP 2600+

I'll never upgrade again.

?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, computers can be a pain in the ass. I've been putting up with my unstable power supply and motherboard since 2001, but am too cheap to buy a new one. I long for the day I can play a computer game or go on the internet without everything crashing every hour.

Originally posted by: zixxer
In all honesty I have a sony laptop I'd trade for a mac in a heartbeat

And two days later you'd be saying "Why did I do that?!?! Why?! ".

 

[necine]

Have you tried reinstalling Windows. It might not even be a hardware problem.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
seasonic 430w

THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM
A 430W PSU on a 7800GT? It's crashing because your computer isn't getting enough power. You should have AT LEAST a 520W OCZ Powerstream or equivilant in there, not a cheap-ass $50 PSU.

100% bullsh!t

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: goku

Originally posted by: Lucifer
I hate computers. I used to be obsessed with them, and I loved Apple.

I hate Apple and PC's or whatever. I'm happy with my outdated XP 2600+

I'll never upgrade again.

?

What i'm saying is i'll never spend money on computers ever again. My PC isn't fast compared to others, but i'm not a gamer so it doesn't matter.

my money goes to my music equipment.

 

[Slammy1]

If you want, I'll trade my Antec Tru 480 for your "cheap" Seasonic 430. We all know that they're cheap and that it's prolly your problem :disgust:. Yeah, I ran harsher demand off a 350W Enermax, I'll trade you that for your Seasonic? Unless you have a bad one, the Seasonic should meet your demands no problem.

Been building systems for years, though the frequency is not as great as some here. My friend owns a networking business, and I've helped him put together big orders. I sell my old systems to friends and they're rock stable, so when I put this beast together and was getting reboots I was confused and frustrated. Did I ESD into the MoBo? Not research components? Forget to attach the PSU connector to the GPU? Burn out the CPU o/c'ing? No, I just had to wait out the driver manufacturers to attain stability. I think on my next system I'll do a "previous generation build" with all components from people bragging about how stable their system is.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I'd do an nVida driver cleanup (it's notorious for sh11ting all over your install and staying there, polluting the next driver rev you lay down), then put on a WHQL certified driver. When it's stable THEN you can mess with the lastest and greatest beta.

Don't RMA anything till you do this, please.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
If you want, I'll trade my Antec Tru 480 for your "cheap" Seasonic 430. We all know that they're cheap and that it's prolly your problem :disgust:. Yeah, I ran harsher demand off a 350W Enermax, I'll trade you that for your Seasonic? Unless you have a bad one, the Seasonic should meet your demands no problem.

Been building systems for years, though the frequency is not as great as some here. My friend owns a networking business, and I've helped him put together big orders. I sell my old systems to friends and they're rock stable, so when I put this beast together and was getting reboots I was confused and frustrated. Did I ESD into the MoBo? Not research components? Forget to attach the PSU connector to the GPU? Burn out the CPU o/c'ing? No, I just had to wait out the driver manufacturers to attain stability. I think on my next system I'll do a "previous generation build" with all components from people bragging about how stable their system is.

honestly I think THAT is my problem... too new of stuff and the drivers aren't stable yet




prime95 all night, no probs on either core

 

[archcommus]

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: Slammy1
If you want, I'll trade my Antec Tru 480 for your "cheap" Seasonic 430. We all know that they're cheap and that it's prolly your problem :disgust:. Yeah, I ran harsher demand off a 350W Enermax, I'll trade you that for your Seasonic? Unless you have a bad one, the Seasonic should meet your demands no problem.

Been building systems for years, though the frequency is not as great as some here. My friend owns a networking business, and I've helped him put together big orders. I sell my old systems to friends and they're rock stable, so when I put this beast together and was getting reboots I was confused and frustrated. Did I ESD into the MoBo? Not research components? Forget to attach the PSU connector to the GPU? Burn out the CPU o/c'ing? No, I just had to wait out the driver manufacturers to attain stability. I think on my next system I'll do a "previous generation build" with all components from people bragging about how stable their system is.

honestly I think THAT is my problem... too new of stuff and the drivers aren't stable yet




prime95 all night, no probs on either core

If that's fine then try 3dmark loops.

 

[zixxer]

Originally posted by: archcommus

Originally posted by: zixxer

Originally posted by: Slammy1
If you want, I'll trade my Antec Tru 480 for your "cheap" Seasonic 430. We all know that they're cheap and that it's prolly your problem :disgust:. Yeah, I ran harsher demand off a 350W Enermax, I'll trade you that for your Seasonic? Unless you have a bad one, the Seasonic should meet your demands no problem.

Been building systems for years, though the frequency is not as great as some here. My friend owns a networking business, and I've helped him put together big orders. I sell my old systems to friends and they're rock stable, so when I put this beast together and was getting reboots I was confused and frustrated. Did I ESD into the MoBo? Not research components? Forget to attach the PSU connector to the GPU? Burn out the CPU o/c'ing? No, I just had to wait out the driver manufacturers to attain stability. I think on my next system I'll do a "previous generation build" with all components from people bragging about how stable their system is.

honestly I think THAT is my problem... too new of stuff and the drivers aren't stable yet




prime95 all night, no probs on either core

If that's fine then try 3dmark loops.

ok.. I'll try that next. I've ran it twice back to back and it was fine.

Also note that while the games are working (before they crash) there are 0 artifacts or other issues.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Koing
Fresh install.

I wrestled with my PC for 8hrs yesterday to get the dam thing to work with 6HD's connected to it...I got it working finally though :thumbsup:

Koing

lol a guy here in the comp-soc bough 8 500Gig drives lol!

i know what your all thinking..................thatsa lotta p00n!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: kukyfrope
seasonic 430w

THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM
A 430W PSU on a 7800GT? It's crashing because your computer isn't getting enough power. You should have AT LEAST a 520W OCZ Powerstream or equivilant in there, not a cheap-ass $50 PSU.

balls

i have TWO yes TWO 7800GT OC's, 2 HDD's, Tv card, sound card, and an A64 clocked to 2.5Ghz, with some extra volts pumped in the ram.........PSU is a Seasonic S12 500watt....doesnt even get luke warm

this seasonic PSU is the best ive ever owned.....and i used to be an Enermax man...

 

[Slammy1]

Well, if it's a key MoBo driver that's flakey you're SOL, but you can try removing cards and disabling devices (sound, NIC, extraneous RAID). Keep track of the error codes, if it's always the video drivers that are messing up you'll prolly just need to wait it out or bite the bullet. Does the card work on a different system? Looping 3dMark is an indication of stability, not proof, and the same could be said for all synthetic stress tests.

I often find my point of stability just a bit below what's stable in testing, but I usually tweak until crash, back off, stress, then back off a bit (more onmem timing than CPU, but a couple of FSB points don't hurt at all). Interestingly, a slight o/c (I run 220MHz on a 1:1) gives me more stability, but then again it's probably just my arrangement.

 

[Acanthus]

nf4_disp.dll is part of the forceware for NForce 4 drivers.

I would uninstall the chipset drivers, install them again, DO NOT INSTALL THE SW_IDE DRIVERS!!!

If you are still having issues after that, id blame the power supply, you can try disconnecting all of the non-critical drives (if youre not running them all in raid of course).

A 430w PSU, even a quality 430w, is under heavy load with overclocked opteron, high end video card, and 6 drives.

 

[enyce2k9]

Originally posted by: ISAslot
Dude, time to get a Dell.

man do you get paid to say that?