I'm on a tech forum and can't believe that

[arcenite]

2500k@4.7 w/ 780GTX... I've had the itch for a long time but can't justify it yet.

 

[Platypus]

I'm on a "tech" forum and I cannot believe it's almost 2016 and there's still no transport security provided by this website that's running an abandoned, out of date alpha forum software package.

 

[FelixDeCat]

...and 1080p monitors still suck

1200p will make a comeback one day.

 

[DrPizza]

I have a bunch of laptops and tablets that I use, but my desktop computer is from 2007, and still chugs along just fine (with some upgrades, of course.)

 

[MongGrel]

...and 1080p monitors still suck

I don't know, I still kinda like my 29" Dell 2560 X 1080 IPS.

 

[Paratus]

Rig in the sig

I7 920 from 2010

Coolermaster case from 2004 and a 1920x1200 ips display.

 

[lxskllr]

Still using a C2D with leaking caps I built in 06. Works fine; mostly. The leaking caps(I think) make it flake out occasionally. I have a new Abit mb I can use, but then I'd be doing work to get what I already have. I'm still considering the options between that, and building a modern machine. I haven't been in a hurry since the old board is stumbling along.

 

[Kaido]

...and 1080p monitors still suck

1200p will make a comeback one day.

hear hear

 

[stargazr]

Intel i3-530 from 2010.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Most of my upgrades in the past years have been changing my environment around, rather than full upgrades. Did lot of work on my server room, also moved my PCs to my server room and ran long USB, audio and video cables to my office. No more dust, noise, and heat. I used to dual boot Linux and Windows but sucks having to close everything I'm working on if I want to game, so I built a separate lower end machine for Linux/every day use and the i7 is for Windows so I'm not constantly rebooting. I can also turn off the i7 machine when not in use as it uses a lot of power. Even my servers don't use that much because they just have on board video.

Next step is doing hvac for my server room so I can drywall it, but I'm also saving up to insulate the basement, probably do all that at same time.

 

[OverVolt]

Circa '09 and Circa '12 here. There is no need for speed. Microsoft word can only get so bloated.

Faster, smaller, cheaper. Pick 2.

Thats computers in the future and over the last few years as they get close to running up against a wall in Moore's law.

Desktops are faster & cheaper. Phones are either small and fast (but not cheap) or small and cheap, etc.

 

[destrekor]

Because Intel sucks and hasn't made a new chip in 5 years. RIP Gordon Moore.

It's not that they suck... they have great designs and ideas, but they have ZERO pressure to invest tremendous resources into developing a radically new chip design, because the competition is not there.

For the markets Intel has dominated, they just don't have competition. In the server industry, they do have competition in certain specific markets, or have been completely run out of other market segments.

In their current dominant spaces, all they are focusing on these days is incremental performance gains while striving to bring great power efficiency. Which is nice to have that, and hopefully their understanding of power efficiency means that, in time, once they are challenged, they can bring about a brand new chip design that is still quite efficient.

I very much hope AMD's Zen chips bring them back into actual competition for the performance crown. Intel only makes radical moves where they seriously rethink their designs when AMD makes a better chip.

Once they do that, then they have a few generations of large performance increases as they improve upon the new design. But now, we're at a point where they are really just increasing efficiency, and adding more capabilities or enhancing various bus speeds and bandwidth. Which alone can make it worth it.

I'm debating if I want to do a new build with Skylake or the chip after that. I'd like to have the improvements that platform brings to the table, but certainly it wouldn't be for a major gain in CPU performance, not for my uses.
But if you are a gamer, it is nice to upgrade from the Sandy Bridge platform, because that means moving from PCIe 2.0 to 3.0, and with current GPUs and games, it can make a difference. It's finally getting to the point that that is becoming an issue on PCIe 2.0 boards. Of course, that's only when the resolution is pushed and/or it is a multi-GPU setup.


I've been on my i7 2600K since it was relatively new (after the SATA issue was resolved).
But I have upgraded once on the GPU front (from 560 Ti in SLI to 290X in CF), added RAM (from 8GB to 16GB), and upgraded to a larger SSD to hold all my games.


The leap Intel made from Pentium 4 (oh what junk) was an interesting evolution, taking a more efficient and shrunken Pentium 3 design, enhanced a little bit, and released that for laptops. Pentium M was a major advance. They made a few iterations, improving upon the Pentium 3 essentially, scrapping the entire Pentium 4 design library, and then the Core was born, and then the Core2Duo took the world by storm. That lasted for awhile, but then they continued to run with that design as a base, and brought out first of the new Core series with the i7-XXX series. That brought a pretty big gain in performance. And then Sandy Bridge came out... and they wiped the floor, destroying the 3-digit chips. And they were cheap in comparison, more efficient, etc.

No chip has brought such an evolution in performance since Sandy Bridge.

And I guess I'm kind of hoping such a leap happens sometime soon, and I think a lot of people are sort of holding off until the next Sandy Bridge.

I just hope Zen isn't a let down.

 

[Zodiark1593]

I have an Athlon XP Barton 2500+ w/ ATI 9800 that plays games fine.

Serious question. Can a Barton (3000+) and a Radeon 9800 run Minecraft?

 

[OverVolt]

It's not that they suck... they have great designs and ideas, but they have ZERO pressure to invest tremendous resources into developing a radically new chip design, because the competition is not there.

For the markets Intel has dominated, they just don't have competition. In the server industry, they do have competition in certain specific markets, or have been completely run out of other market segments.

In their current dominant spaces, all they are focusing on these days is incremental performance gains while striving to bring great power efficiency. Which is nice to have that, and hopefully their understanding of power efficiency means that, in time, once they are challenged, they can bring about a brand new chip design that is still quite efficient.

I very much hope AMD's Zen chips bring them back into actual competition for the performance crown. Intel only makes radical moves where they seriously rethink their designs when AMD makes a better chip.

Once they do that, then they have a few generations of large performance increases as they improve upon the new design. But now, we're at a point where they are really just increasing efficiency, and adding more capabilities or enhancing various bus speeds and bandwidth. Which alone can make it worth it.

I'm debating if I want to do a new build with Skylake or the chip after that. I'd like to have the improvements that platform brings to the table, but certainly it wouldn't be for a major gain in CPU performance, not for my uses.
But if you are a gamer, it is nice to upgrade from the Sandy Bridge platform, because that means moving from PCIe 2.0 to 3.0, and with current GPUs and games, it can make a difference. It's finally getting to the point that that is becoming an issue on PCIe 2.0 boards. Of course, that's only when the resolution is pushed and/or it is a multi-GPU setup.


I've been on my i7 2600K since it was relatively new (after the SATA issue was resolved).
But I have upgraded once on the GPU front (from 560 Ti in SLI to 290X in CF), added RAM (from 8GB to 16GB), and upgraded to a larger SSD to hold all my games.


The leap Intel made from Pentium 4 (oh what junk) was an interesting evolution, taking a more efficient and shrunken Pentium 3 design, enhanced a little bit, and released that for laptops. Pentium M was a major advance. They made a few iterations, improving upon the Pentium 3 essentially, scrapping the entire Pentium 4 design library, and then the Core was born, and then the Core2Duo took the world by storm. That lasted for awhile, but then they continued to run with that design as a base, and brought out first of the new Core series with the i7-XXX series. That brought a pretty big gain in performance. And then Sandy Bridge came out... and they wiped the floor, destroying the 3-digit chips. And they were cheap in comparison, more efficient, etc.

No chip has brought such an evolution in performance since Sandy Bridge.

And I guess I'm kind of hoping such a leap happens sometime soon, and I think a lot of people are sort of holding off until the next Sandy Bridge.

I just hope Zen isn't a let down.

Fab costs are rising exponentially. The other side to Moore's law I guess. AMD/Qualcom and others I'm sure all share ownership of the newest fabs now. Intel is the lone wolf now with the resources for its own fab. Something along those lines. I'm not that up on the recent manufacturing deals and whom is co-op'ing with whom etc. But the bottom line is we are headed toward fewer fabs with shared ownership.

 

[brianmanahan]

all the real progress in the last 5 years has been made in mobile technology

a 2 year old phone seems old and a 4 year old phone seems ancient

 

[stormkroe]

I have an Athlon XP Barton 2500+ w/ ATI 9800 that plays games fine.

That rig will never hit its full potential until you slap it in an abit nf7-s 2.0
Ridiculous power.

 

[Iron Woode]

until a few weeks ago my main system was a 2010 AMD with a 965BE, gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3, 4 gb ddr3, GTX 650TI Boost that worked flawlessly.

Now I am using an old Q6600, 4gb ddr2 Dell setup with my GTX650 ti Boost as my main system while I await new parts to build a better system.

 

[EliteRetard]

all the real progress in the last 5 years has been made in mobile technology

a 2 year old phone seems old and a 4 year old phone seems ancient

Still kicking ass and taking calls. Yes it has internet. And GPS.

 

[EliteRetard]

That rig will never hit its full potential until you slap it in an abit nf7-s 2.0
Ridiculous power.

It's in an Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe.
Funny thing is I've built 2 of these exact systems and neither got OC'd.

Got a nice cooler on there too:

Has a ~6,000 RPM turbine fan, the motor is in the rim not the hub.
I recall this was the best cooler, and the quietest for it's performance too.

 

[HeXen]

Is this similar to one of those I have a Pentium 2 CPU and can run Crysis maxed out threads? I'm in the 60fps with maxed out visuals for every single game or no game at all section. So I update to keep it as close to that experience as possible.

 

[Humpy]

Is this similar to one of those I have a Pentium 2 CPU and can run Crysis maxed out threads? I'm in the 60fps with maxed out visuals for every single game or no game at all section. So I update to keep it as close to that experience as possible.

Nope! This is another I have a Pentium 2 CPU and can watch porn so I'm good threads.

 

[EliteRetard]

Nope! This is another I have a Pentium 2 CPU and can watch porn so I'm good threads.

I have a "Pentium 2" so I can play X-COM etc.

 

[John Connor]

Shit... I use a Q6600 still. I bought my case and CPU cooler and now I need a MOBO, RAM and CPU. I'm recycling everything else.

 

[Svnla]

My main computer is over 5 years old. Dell laptop i5 M430 2.27Ghz Studio purchased in 7/2010.

 

[destrekor]

I'm on a "tech" forum and I cannot believe it's almost 2016 and there's still no transport security provided by this website that's running an abandoned, out of date alpha forum software package.

All this time, I had no idea it was an alpha version.

What the shit mateAnandtech, what the shit?

You put an alpha release on a large website? lol