I'm disqualified from the Air Force

[Yossarian]

let that be a lesson to you kids out there!

 

[kermalou]

try the navy, they will take anyone.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: clamum
Dude, if you've ever done coke or ecstasy you're a druggie piece of sh!t that can't work anyway. Why would they want you?

*taps sarcasm detector*

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: shilala

Originally posted by: Ausm
Need a Good Job and have no money...get an apprenticeship in Carpentry,Electrician or plumbing. They will pay you to work and also for your schooling and in 4 years time you will make 20-30/hr depending on where you live.


Ausm

Ausm has an excellent idea. They also could care less if you're doing x, coke and other stuff as long as you aren't stoned at work.
I'm pretty sure it's mandatory that you smoke dope if you want to be a Carpenter.

Would I need an associates from a community college first, or would they just take me in as is even though I don't know anything about carpentry or wiring?

Dude as long as you graduated high school you are qualified. If you are in a trade they are monitored by unions so your employer can't f you over.

In other words, you will get a substantial raise every 6 months and also make sure you take plenty of no dose to school.

They don't expect you to know much in the beginning it is on the job training and where you live if you choose Carpentry you can work all year.

I apprenticed as a Moldmaker(But I am a System Admin now so if you got questions feel free to ask.

Ausm

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: kermalou
try the navy, they will take anyone.

No, the French Legion will take anyone. ANYONE. Check them out.

 

[JulesMaximus]

How did they know you've used x, coke and stuff?

Edit-Why is it in your medical records?

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
How did they know you've used x, coke and stuff?

Edit-Why is it in your medical records?

It says he visited a psychologist. Probabaly reported by them, or the reason he had to visit one.

 

[Mo0o]

Um.. I thought that was all confidential? Isn't there some kind of doctor patient priviledge here ? I thought as long as it wasn't a crime that stll needed to be prosecuted or information that could lead to a crime, the doctor can't reveal anything?

 

[digitalsm]

If you want to join a military branch join the Coast Guard.

 

[gigapet]

the marines need you

 

[Ameesh]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
It shows on my medical record (I had to see a psychologist once) that I have used x, coke, other stuff. That was a while back, but the guy says that I'm still disqualified. Now I have no job (I have been looking for about a week now without any luck), no way to pay for college, parents on the brink of cutting me off (they have twice already, but always let me come back), and I dunno what to do with myself.

My life has really gone down the sh!tter in the last 2 months or so..

why dont you stop being such a stupid asshole and maybe your life will get better.

 

[Mo0o]

You can always join the army and they'll pay for you college

 

[JDub02]

don't worry .. i can't get join the military either ... my uncorrected eyesight doesn't meet the basic requirements. (-8.5 in both eyes) I believe the AF requires no greater than -7.5

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
It shows on my medical record (I had to see a psychologist once) that I have used x, coke, other stuff. That was a while back, but the guy says that I'm still disqualified. Now I have no job (I have been looking for about a week now without any luck), no way to pay for college, parents on the brink of cutting me off (they have twice already, but always let me come back), and I dunno what to do with myself.

My life has really gone down the sh!tter in the last 2 months or so..

why dont you stop being such a stupid asshole and maybe your life will get better.

Dude I think your being kind of hard on him....How many kids his age actually have their shat together?

Not very fvcking many and also he is trying to better himself so cut him some slack.

Ausm

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
It shows on my medical record (I had to see a psychologist once) that I have used x, coke, other stuff. That was a while back, but the guy says that I'm still disqualified. Now I have no job (I have been looking for about a week now without any luck), no way to pay for college, parents on the brink of cutting me off (they have twice already, but always let me come back), and I dunno what to do with myself.

My life has really gone down the sh!tter in the last 2 months or so..

why dont you stop being such a stupid asshole and maybe your life will get better.

Why are you so rough on the guy? He admitted he has done wrong in the past and is trying to get himself together again. All you're doing is knocking him right back down. Why?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

 

[whistleclient]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

yeah, i'm with you. the air force is in charge of our ballistic missiles. i don't want someone with a habit selling nuclear secrets for an eight ball.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Ameesh

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
It shows on my medical record (I had to see a psychologist once) that I have used x, coke, other stuff. That was a while back, but the guy says that I'm still disqualified. Now I have no job (I have been looking for about a week now without any luck), no way to pay for college, parents on the brink of cutting me off (they have twice already, but always let me come back), and I dunno what to do with myself.

My life has really gone down the sh!tter in the last 2 months or so..

why dont you stop being such a stupid asshole and maybe your life will get better.

Midol++ mkay?

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

Now he's their commander in chief. So you can't be a member of the armed forces if you did drugs, but you can run them.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

yeah, i'm with you. the air force is in charge of our ballistic missiles. i don't want someone with a habit selling nuclear secrets for an eight ball.

I'm not saying that they should kick him out; I'm making the point that it's the AF's right to refuse entry to people for reasons beyond that whole race, sex, blah blah blah thing. UglyCasanova might be completely clean and have been clean for decades or something. If I were the recruiter or had power over this situation, I'd want proof that he's clean for a certain period of time (years++) before I approve his entry, but I certainly wouldn't automatically shoot him down just because of drug abuse in the past.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

Now he's their commander in chief. So you can't be a member of the armed forces if you did drugs, but you can run them.

Oh stop it. You're being ridiculous and you know it.

 

[bradruth]

Well, that's what happens when you use drugs. I'm glad to see the Air Force stick to their standards.

Since you're trying to reform--good luck in the private sector.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

Now he's their commander in chief. So you can't be a member of the armed forces if you did drugs, but you can run them.

Oh stop it. You're being ridiculous and you know it.

But there is a bit of irony in there isn't there?

 

[DrumminBoy]

Originally posted by: tangent1138

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

yeah, i'm with you. the air force is in charge of our ballistic missiles. i don't want someone with a habit selling nuclear secrets for an eight ball.

Yeah...I hear they give a manila folder with all our nuclear secrets to every enlistee now...:roll:

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
the pres did coke, i dont think this is fair

Fair? The AF has the right to require anything they want barring discrimination based on that huge list of crap. If you've done drugs and they don't want people who have a history of drug abuse in the AF, it's their right to refuse entry. Just because some guy got into the AF 30 years ago and did drugs at another point in his life hardly makes this unjust or unfair. :roll:

Now he's their commander in chief. So you can't be a member of the armed forces if you did drugs, but you can run them.

Oh stop it. You're being ridiculous and you know it.

But there is a bit of irony in there isn't there?

For the sake of argument, I do see the irony; however, the rules for entry into the Whitehouse don't include a clean drug history.