I'm confused about ddr2 speeds

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lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Nacelle
I like how no one answers the question and join in a pro AMD flame war.

Get used to it.

Go with DDR2 @ 667MHz, if your board can take it. Some might take it but only run it at 533MHz so do some checking.

Regardless, the relatively slow timings (high latencies) of DDR2 make it a virtual tie with DDR performance-wise at the moment.



Why get the 667? His board isn't even close to being able to handle that speed. The only reason to get the faster ram would be to use it in a future system. Who knows whats in the future though? After a couple of years when he's ready to upgrade again that ram may be obsolete.
 

Pabster

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I always error on the side of (possible) upgradeability down the road.

If price is the concern and upgradeability isn't in the forecast, then, by all means, get the cheaper RAM.
 

imported_Nacelle

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If I did go with the x2, I would have less money to spend on a graphics card. Would it be better to go with a 6600GT and an x2 or a 6800 and a PD? I was planning on the latter.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Nacelle
I like how no one answers the question and join in a pro AMD flame war.

Get used to it.

Go with DDR2 @ 667MHz, if your board can take it. Some might take it but only run it at 533MHz so do some checking.

Regardless, the relatively slow timings (high latencies) of DDR2 make it a virtual tie with DDR performance-wise at the moment.

why is prescott bolded in your sig?
 

lxskllr

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Originally posted by: Nacelle
If I did go with the x2, I would have less money to spend on a graphics card. Would it be better to go with a 6600GT and an x2 or a 6800 and a PD? I was planning on the latter.



I'm running a P4 at the moment, but if I were to build a comp today it would be AMD all the way. I think you'd have better all around performance with AMD and the 6600gt, it doesn't fall that far behind the 6800. Maybe you could use your old gfx card for a while longer and pick up a 7800 when you have more money and prices have dropped.
 

bNeta86

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Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Pentium is terrible at gaming so you are wasting your money on it if you want good fps.

You're an idiot. It isnt terrible at anything. It simply doesnt clock quite as high as the AMD. I am still running an intel p4 3.2ghz with a 9800 pro. Wow is my comp terrible let me tell you. I can play every game out right now- most at max settings and my comp is getting quite aged.

As far as the timings questions I would recommend maybe calling crucial or one of the other memory manufactures and asking them what they would recommend.

My advice would be to go with the 533 also though. Good luck to you...
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: bNeta86
You're an idiot. It isnt terrible at anything. It simply doesnt clock quite as high as the AMD. I am still running an intel p4 3.2ghz with a 9800 pro. Wow is my comp terrible let me tell you. I can play every game out right now- most at max settings and my comp is getting quite aged.

Heh, get used to it around here. With 80% running AMD rigs you aren't going to get any unbiased opinons or honest reviews of anything. :D

It is pretty ridiculous to call the P4 "terrible" at gaming. For most people the difference between 120 and 140fps isn't even noticeable.
 

Sixtyfour

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Question was related to dual core intel and that sucks at gaming.

Im terribly sorry that you bNeta86 and Pabster are so stupid that you need someone to spell it for you.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Question was related to dual core intel and that sucks at gaming.

No, it doesn't. It is capable of playing everything just fine. And just FYI, the thread was about DDR2 speeds, not Pentium D. Thanks for playing.

Im terribly sorry that you bNeta86 and Pabster are so stupid that you need someone to spell it for you.

Back to your hole. If you don't have anything constructive to add, STFU.
 

Sixtyfour

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
Question was related to dual core intel and that sucks at gaming.

No, it doesn't. It is capable of playing everything just fine. And just FYI, the thread was about DDR2 speeds, not Pentium D. Thanks for playing.

http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentiumd-820/index.x?pg=5

This should count as constructive post.

:)

ps. thread starter is about to build a system that is also for gaming, that is the reason why i mentioned the fact that better GPU is a waste of money with Pentium D.
(yes i used different words but the facts are there.)
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
ps. thread starter is about to build a system that is also for gaming, that is the reason why i mentioned the fact that better GPU is a waste of money with Pentium D.
(yes i used different words but the facts are there.)

...And you can tell with your naked eyes the difference between ~170fps and ~200fps?

My point here is that while the AMD chips have a clear advantage in gaming -- undeniably -- the difference (with a high-end GPU) is not going to be noticeable to most people. Perhaps most people doesn't apply to AT'ers, but it does to everyone else :D

I, personally, would not put together a "D" series rig for gaming. But that doesn't mean it can't be done with satisfactory results.
 

Sixtyfour

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Difference is 20-50%, so it can be difference between playable and diashow (7800gtx is CPU limited).
 

fierydemise

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I just want to warn the OP the THG stresstest showed that the SLI boards are unstable with intel dual cores
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we arrived at the conclusion that the nForce4-SLI chipset is simply not yet ready to be used with the Intel platform.