I'm an idiot

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Another reason to drive manual ... you don't forget to set the handbrake unless you're a complete moron.

- M4H

QFT

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Another reason to drive manual ... you don't forget to set the handbrake unless you're a complete moron.

- M4H

Ahem. I guess I am one When I bought my car, I test drove it with the hand brake on. Was wondering why I kept stalling. I figured it was because I never drove a manual before
Then I realized the handbrake was half up.

 

[Aimster]

is the parking brake all 4 wheels?

I never changed mine.

 

[theeedude]

I thought handbrake was just mechanical override for rear hydraulic brake but still using the same shoes/pads.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: senseamp
I thought handbrake was just mechanical override for rear hydraulic brake but still using the same shoes/pads.

With drum-rear cars, it is. An engineer at GM explaind it to me once, but I cna't remember the details, basically using a disc brake as a parking break has certain inherent issues.

 

[RiverDog]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Baloo
Uhh, guys. The hand brake operates the rear brakes, the same brakes that are applied when you press the brake pedal at the floor.

Yeah, I was about to chime in and ask what car he owns that has 2 sets of rear brakes, one for the handbrake and the regular one.

2002 For F-150 for one. Mine had 4 wheel disk and seperate pads for the foot brake.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Another reason to drive manual ... you don't forget to set the handbrake unless you're a complete moron.

- M4H

QFT

Thats not a reason to drive a manual, if anything its a reason to drive an automatic. In an automatic, you rarely need the hand brake, thus you get used to simply not using it. Usually, its mechanics, who work on your car and for some reason set the hand brake even though they are working in a perfectly level shop, who cause the problem.

 

[Demo24]

my 05 wrx has a separate drum for the handbrake.

Also most cars will beep at you if you drive with it on too long. I know an accord will(wasn't engaged, just testing it). No idea if my wrx will as I haven't felt cruel enough to try it out. Manuals are more noticeable though, automatics not so much especially with the weak brake many cars seem to come with.

I've always used it though.

 

[manowar821]

I use my hand-brake all the time, so I always check it when I drive someone else's car. I use it on even SLIGHT inclines, it's just good for it.

Also, I use it in the winter, a lot...

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Another reason to drive manual ... you don't forget to set the handbrake unless you're a complete moron.

- M4H

QFT

Thats not a reason to drive a manual, if anything its a reason to drive an automatic. In an automatic, you rarely need the hand brake, thus you get used to simply not using it. Usually, its mechanics, who work on your car and for some reason set the hand brake even though they are working in a perfectly level shop, who cause the problem.

That's because it keeps the car perfectly still. It helps, I work on my auto all the time, and I set it on a flat surface so that it stays where I want it to.

 

[ATLien247]

All of the vehicles that I've owned have shown a red brake light on the dash when the parking brake is engaged. It's pretty hard to miss...

 

[BoomerD]

I'm an idiot

[/quote]

Well then, you fit right in here at ATOT...

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I just got my handbrake shoes replaced this weekend, along with my rear brakes. After a year of not having a handbrake, I forgot to release it before driving home from work.

HOW can you drive with your parking brake set? Are you so inattentive that you didn't notice the instant loss of power? OR the smell?

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Baloo
Uhh, guys. The hand brake operates the rear brakes, the same brakes that are applied when you press the brake pedal at the floor.

Uhh, not always...depends on the vehicle, and a separate braking system is pretty common for vehicles with 4 wheel disk brakes...

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I've never used a handbrake...or a parking brake. I just got my brakes done the other day, and the tech that parked the car, set the handbrake. Fortunately, I caught it right away.

Parking brakes take the pressure off the trans. Dont you notice the little wobble your car does when you park?

BTW, OP there are no "handbrake shoes." The handbrake engages your brakes manually.

 

[buzzsaw13]

Good thing my car warns me whenever I leave the hand brake on with a stupid sounding voice

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: homercles337

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I've never used a handbrake...or a parking brake. I just got my brakes done the other day, and the tech that parked the car, set the handbrake. Fortunately, I caught it right away.

Parking brakes take the pressure off the trans. Dont you notice the little wobble your car does when you park?

BTW, OP there are no "handbrake shoes." The handbrake engages your brakes manually.

Don't people get it? On cars with 4 wheel disk brakes, there ARE brake shoes for the parking brakes... USUALLY, the disk has a drum brake system built into the center of it...totally separate from the hydraulic braking system.

Rear Brake Disk:
http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/N100053379BAL.JPG

Parking Brake Shoe set:
http://www.bavauto.com/assets/imglib500/34411159468.jpg

 

[j00fek]

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: BoomerD


I'm an idiot

Well then, you fit right in here at ATOT...

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I just got my handbrake shoes replaced this weekend, along with my rear brakes. After a year of not having a handbrake, I forgot to release it before driving home from work.

HOW can you drive with your parking brake set? Are you so inattentive that you didn't notice the instant loss of power? OR the smell?[/quote]

No loss of power. It even does the slushbox "creep" just fine. Definately no smell. I didn't see a light, and the EVC didn't chime like it does for every other possible problem.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: senseamp
I thought handbrake was just mechanical override for rear hydraulic brake but still using the same shoes/pads.

With drum-rear cars, it is. An engineer at GM explaind it to me once, but I cna't remember the details, basically using a disc brake as a parking break has certain inherent issues.

that does make sense. if you have disc on the rear, youd need a mechanical back up as an ebrake. on drum brakes, you can use the brakes themselves as the e brake, since the e brake hooks up to the brake arm and engages the rear brakes independent of the hydraulic system. none of my cars have rear disc, thats why ive never seen it before.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: alimoalem

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Another reason to drive manual ... you don't forget to set the handbrake unless you're a complete moron.

- M4H

QFT

Thats not a reason to drive a manual, if anything its a reason to drive an automatic. In an automatic, you rarely need the hand brake, thus you get used to simply not using it. Usually, its mechanics, who work on your car and for some reason set the hand brake even though they are working in a perfectly level shop, who cause the problem.

majority of the reason you use the hand brake in an automatic is to relieve the park pin from the weight of the vehicle. just because putting the car in park makes it stop rolling downhill doesnt make it safe. that pin can only take so much stress, and if youre parking on inclines more than flat then you need to use the e brake to keept that pin from wearing out and snapping.

 

[radioouman]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: Baloo
Uhh, guys. The hand brake operates the rear brakes, the same brakes that are applied when you press the brake pedal at the floor.

Yeah, I was about to chime in and ask what car he owns that has 2 sets of rear brakes, one for the handbrake and the regular one.

My Sebring does. It has rear disc brakes (hydraulic) and a pair of tiny brake shoes inside the rotor that are cable actuated.

 

[ColdFusion718]

I hate it when people drive my car and forget to release the brake. I mean how hard is it to be prudent about doing a few quick checks before driving off?

Check the mirrors, rear view mirror, look at the gauges (make sure there's enough gas if you're driving > 30 miles), put car in gear, let go of parking brake, drive.

It's not hard at all and I'm talking about in any car or van (most vans have a step brake on the left side near the driver's door).

How much did the repairs cost, OP?

 

[nweaver]

I always use mine, but my car is a manual...

I replaced my idiot light with a midget with a boxing glove that extends out of a hammer....you don't forget too often that way.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: ColdFusion718
I hate it when people drive my car and forget to release the brake. I mean how hard is it to be prudent about doing a few quick checks before driving off?

Check the mirrors, rear view mirror, look at the gauges (make sure there's enough gas if you're driving > 30 miles), put car in gear, let go of parking brake, drive.

It's not hard at all and I'm talking about in any car or van (most vans have a step brake on the left side near the driver's door).

How much did the repairs cost, OP?

$240 for the labor and about $240 for the parts (once I take back the old ones for the "core" fee back).

 

[mitaiwan82]

I rent a lot of cars, but I don't always know everything about them. So a lot of times, I drive for like ten miles with the emergency brake on. That doesn't say a lot for me, but it really doesn't say a lot for the emergency brake. It's really not an emergency brake, it's an emergency "make the car smell funny" lever.

RIP Mitch