Illinois Gun Control

[Phanuel]

As a citizen in CA under law you cannot sell a firearm to another private party without going through an FFL. Moonbogg, I don't understand what you're saying. All private party transactions are supposed to go through FFLs with 10 day waiting periods, background checks, the whole 9 years.

Sure, you can just take cash from some guy on the street and sell them a gun. Nothing prevents you from doing this other than knowingly breaking a law on the books.

 

[JulesMaximus]

The governor of Illinois is at it again; making even tougher gun control laws for Chicago and the lawlessness that exists there. Even though the real problem is drugs and gangs he wants to make it harder for citizens to purchase or own guns. Illinois is a police state that cant control crime in Chicago. Need More Death penalties for the first gun crime. Dont wait till criminals kill people.

People will probably go to a neighboring state and purchase firearms legally or illegally. Wisconsin and Indiana probably love this law.

It is illegal to impede illegal voters, but it is prefectly legal to obstruct the right to bear arms. We need Background checks on politicians.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/19/illinois-governor-signs-law-expanding-background-checks/

Illinois Governor Pat Quinn signed a new gun-control measure into law Sunday that requires all gun owners, including private citizens, to check the background of the person buying the gun.

Under previous legislation, adults only had to undergo a background check if they were buying guns at a licensed firearm shop or at a gun show in the state. Under the new law, gun owners are also required to report any lost or stolen firearms to the police within 72 hours.

"Guns are a plague on too many of our communities," Quinn, a Democrat, said in a statement. "Making sure guns do not fall into the wrong hands is critical to keeping the people of Illinois safe. This commonsense law will help our law enforcement crack down on crime and make our streets safer."

In Illinois, potential gun buyers are required to present a firearm owners identification card, or FOID. The cards are issued by the Illinois State Police to applicants who pass a screening of state criminal and mental health records. Under the new law, the potential seller would have to call a hotline to ensure that the would-be buyer's FOID is valid.

I have no problem with that law. Good for him. :thumbsup:

 

[jackstar7]

How are the people in question any different then?

bshole is trying to say that they need to be provided more than the opportunity. They need to be provided housing and food otherwise its not surprising that they will kill and steal for those things. I'm not provided those, so what gives?

It was a stupid argument and I don't think you want to be defending it.

He didn't say that. He said they need the means to provide it for themselves (aka real jobs). Until the honest market is a better opportunity than the black market for drugs, guns, etc., why would they choose anything other than what provides the slimmest promise of upward mobility?

I now understand that you're not deliberately misreading him, but you are not getting what he's saying, and possibly not what I'm saying either.

 

[piasabird]

I guess you dont believe you have a right to bear arms. Voting is a right and buying arms is a right and neither should be impeded. Maybe we need a background check for voting!

Submit your fingerprints before you vote!

 

[jackstar7]

I guess you dont believe you have a right to bear arms. Voting is a right and buying arms is a right and neither should be impeded.

Buying isn't part of it. Owning is.

Though of course, it is far more nuanced than that.

 

[OCGuy]

You can bet the gangs in Chicago will take note of this new law!

Seriously, anti-gun nuts will spend months going after law-abiding owners, and completely ignore the inner-city rot.

 

[xBiffx]

He didn't say that. He said they need the means to provide it for themselves (aka real jobs). Until the honest market is a better opportunity than the black market for drugs, guns, etc., why would they choose anything other than what provides the slimmest promise of upward mobility?

I now understand that you're not deliberately misreading him, but you are not getting what he's saying, and possibly not what I'm saying either.

You interpreted that. He didn't say it. Fine, I could be wrong.