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Illinois government meltdown

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Gov pulls end-run on lawmakers
STATEHOUSE SHOWDOWN | Vows to chop $500 mil. from budget, boost health care; Jones backs plans

August 15, 2007
BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND WHITNEY WOODWARD Sun-Times Springfield Bureau

SPRINGFIELD -- His legislative agenda in ruin, Gov. Blagojevich thumbed his nose Tuesday at lawmakers by vowing to cut $500 million from the newly passed state budget and unilaterally boost spending on health care.

The surprise maneuver was clearly an in-your-face response to the Legislature, which last week overwhelmingly approved a $59.5 billion budget gutted of Blagojevich's top priorities, chief among them health care.

Blagojevich's tack initially shocked the Statehouse, as some questioned whether he had found a way to do an end-run around recalcitrant lawmakers like House Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago), who led efforts to skewer the governor's budgetary vision.

But as the day proceeded, a deep skepticism began to take hold that the governor may have overplayed his hand and merely was trying to save face from a disastrous legislative session.

With Senate President Emil Jones (D-Chicago) at his side, Blagojevich promised to trim $200 million in legislative add-ons for things like sidewalk repairs, playground equipment and fire trucks and another $300 million in unspecified "special-interest spending."

At the same time, Blagojevich pledged to expand existing health-care programs like Family Care so that the uninsured could access services like mammograms and get help paying medical insurance premiums.

"In short, I'm cutting pork and special-interest spending and, in its place, I'm using the legal authority that I have to expand health care to more than 500,000 people. I believe that's the right thing to do," Blagojevich said.

The governor would not take questions, and the only details available were spelled out vaguely in a press release.

His health-care plans cost $463 million, but aides would not identify the specific funding source.

Are moves constitutional?
The administration said his proposal would come into clearer focus by week's end, when the governor would identify specifically what he intended to veto from the budget.

Those cuts likely will stand because Jones, Blagojevich's chief legislative ally, said he would not allow the Senate to overrule the reductions the governor envisions.

"We do not plan to move to override the cuts on spending that will put the governor in a position where he could not do anything for health care. That's our position. That's what we're going to do," Jones said. "Case closed."

But it is open to question whether the state Constitution gives a governor authority to veto particular spending items by the Legislature -- in this case, "pork" -- and redirect the money to something totally unrelated, like health care.

"I think it's unprecedented," said Senate Minority Leader Frank Watson (R-Greenville), who questioned whether Blagojevich's moves were constitutional. "To me, I just think it would be an end-run of the whole legislative process for him to do this."

Pay increase approved
Tuesday's development shifted focus off of Blagojevich's late-night approval of 9.6-percent pay increases for himself and lawmakers Monday night -- a move that broke his 2006 campaign pledge to veto the pay hikes.

"Obviously, he didn't want it on the 10 o'clock news," Watson said.

Madigan stayed holed up in his Statehouse office, and his spokesman would not comment on the governor's move or on how the speaker might respond.

The legislature refused to fund Blagojevich's bloated health care initiatives so now he is just taking the money and trying to go around the budget. The long delay has cost the state millions in lost federal funding and put the pay of thousands of state employees at risk and threatened to shut down the government. The state worker's union had to get a court order to make the government meet payroll obligations.

The head of the legislature is one of Blagojevich's few remaining allies even in his own party and has vowed to block any attempt by the legislature to override the governor. This thing is totally going to court since its probably unconstitutional and will tie up the budget for god knows how long.



Trooper's widow cut off by lack of budget
Says governor's legislative office hung up on her

By ADRIANA COLINDRES
STATE CAPITOL BUREAU

Tuesday, August 21, 2007

Karla Miller, the widow of an Illinois State Police trooper who died while on duty, was surprised to learn Monday that her next survivor-benefits check won't arrive until state government gets a new budget.

She got another surprise when she tried to alert Gov. Rod Blagojevich's legislative office to her situation. Miller said the man she spoke to eventually hung up on her. She didn't get his full name.

"He was very flippant and just said, you know, we're all worried about the budget and we'll get it fixed and that kind of thing," she said. "He started to get a little testy with me, and I started to get a little testy back, and then he hung up on me."

Miller's husband, Rodney, was killed in May 2006 in a traffic accident in rural Champaign County. His survivors include Karla, 41, and their two sons, now ages 11 and 12.

Karla Miller, who lives in Decatur, knew she hadn't received her monthly benefits check this month, but she thought maybe it had been lost in the mail.

She said she called the state police and was told that "no survivors will get their checks" until a budget is in place. Her check usually arrives in the first half of the month.

Lawmakers have sent the governor a $59 billion budget for the fiscal year that began July 1. Blagojevich said last Tuesday that he would use his veto power to slash $500 million from the spending plan. He also wants to expand state-subsidized health care at a cost of $463 million.

As of late Monday, though, Blagojevich had not filed his promised veto, which would specify where he wants to make budget cuts. In the meantime, state government runs without a budget.

Miller, after hearing from the state police, said she called the governor's office "because I didn't know where else to call."

"What I wanted to get across to the governor is that, you're working out this big picture and trying to make all these political moves," Miller said. "And I don't think anybody's thinking of the people that are really affected by it."

She said she worries about others who are more dependent than she is on the survivor benefits.

"I'm not desperate for the money, yet," she said. "But it will get to that point because I just quit my job, and I'm dependent on this money as my source of income."

Miller is leaving her position as vice president of community engagement at ADM to stay home with her children, who are still dealing with the loss of their father.

Upon hearing about Miller's experience, Blagojevich spokeswoman Abby Ottenhoff shifted the blame to Comptroller Dan Hynes. She said his office received the paperwork needed to process survivor benefits a couple of weeks ago.

"In our view, those payments should have been made," Ottenhoff said.

But Hynes spokeswoman, Carol Knowles, said Hynes' office cannot issue the payments without a new state budget in place.

"The governor and his staff are well aware that, absent appropriations authority or a court order, there are millions of dollars of critical payments that the state is unable to make," Knowles said. "The comptroller has repeated this warning to them again and again, and yet it's gone ignored."

Payments that have been delayed because of the state budget uncertainty include $340 million worth of general state aid payments for schools, almost $600,000 in worker's compensation payments and $4.7 million in highway and bridge construction and repair funds, Hynes' office said.

Still no budget signed or vetoed from the executive branch.

 
Probably most of this money is spent in Chicago. Chicago is a giant money pit which sucks the life blood out of people who live in Illinois. I live in Southern Illinois. Last year we had 2 separate incidents where we were without power for 2 weeks. The governor did not show up in my neighborhood. Where was the help we needed? Nowhere to be found.

I took a trip to Chicago last May. At the hotel there was only mexicans or people speaking spanish. They did not understand one word of english. The reason they need health care is to take care of all the underpaid hispanics being used as slave labor in Chicago.
 
Tuesday's development shifted focus off of Blagojevich's late-night approval of 9.6-percent pay increases for himself and lawmakers Monday night -- a move that broke his 2006 campaign pledge to veto the pay hikes.

These politicians really think they are something else dont they?
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Probably most of this money is spent in Chicago. Chicago is a giant money pit which sucks the life blood out of people who live in Illinois. I live in Southern Illinois. Last year we had 2 separate incidents where we were without power for 2 weeks. The governor did not show up in my neighborhood. Where was the help we needed? Nowhere to be found.

I took a trip ...

I'm from the Chicago area and I spent 2.5 years at SIUC, so I've been exposed to this line of thinking. While I agree with you that Chicago is indeed a money pit, please understand that probably DuPage county alone generates more tax income than the whole of Southern Illinois combined.

I live in southern Cook county (about 30 miles or so south of Chicago), and we've been without power plenty of times, no one came and visited us either, never expected them to.

Chuck
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Probably most of this money is spent in Chicago. Chicago is a giant money pit which sucks the life blood out of people who live in Illinois. I live in Southern Illinois. Last year we had 2 separate incidents where we were without power for 2 weeks. The governor did not show up in my neighborhood. Where was the help we needed? Nowhere to be found.

I took a trip to Chicago last May. At the hotel there was only mexicans or people speaking spanish. They did not understand one word of english. The reason they need health care is to take care of all the underpaid hispanics being used as slave labor in Chicago.

3 million people live in Chicago. 9 million live in the Chicago urban area. Illinois' population is is somewhere between 12 million and 13 million. How exactly can Chicago be a money pit, if the residents are also the ones paying most of the taxes? If 3/4 of the people are in the Chicago area, how much of the money spent do you think should go towards that area?

I live in Chicago, and the governor has never been to my neighborhood either. Don't think that his lack of caring about your local problems are unique.

Illinois is 75% white. Your assertion that the governor's health care push is about poor hispanics is laughable. For the same reason that the Governor doesn't come to your area during a blackout, the governor isn't shutting down the government for the "poor hispanic" vote.
 
It sounds as if the governor has a bad case of GBF.

GBF, or George Bush Fever, can incapacitate an otherwise rational thinking politician into believing that the laws of the land no longer apply to them. It leads them to believe that their agenda is all that's important no matter what the legislature or populous have espoused. It's truly a sad, sad condition that we will probably see in epidemic proportions over the coming years. Once that Pandora's Box has been opened, nothing but the further infection of others with GBF is certain.
 
The governor also tried to raid the Southern (Illinois) University Retirement System. This retierement system is run really well and because of wise financial management just happens to have a lot of money in it. I think we pay into this system at around 8%. It has nothing to do with Chicago, but BLAGOYO just wanted to raid it, because he cant mange money. If education is really important he should stay away from it. Messing with this fund would disrupt the retirement of poor people who work at community colleges that can barely get by on what they make.

Now you wonder why I dont like the man?

You see whatever chicago decides, the rest of the state is stuck with it no matter if it makes sense or not. Because Chicago has such a large population however the people in Chicago vote, so goes the rest of the state. So the rest of the state is in slavery to a few counties around chicago whether we want to be or not. It is like everyone's vote in southern Illinois is worthless and irrelevent. So we just survive on what we have and ignore Chicago and do not care about the problems in Chicago. They are your problems so you solve them. It is like Chicago is in a different state.
 
a few way she can save money is stop flying into springfield, stop makeing signs that have his name on it over the toll roads.

but this is par for the course with chicago politics.
 
The funniest/saddest part is that it is a democrat governor and democrat majority house and senate. It's so crooked that even with a total majority it works just like a republican/democrat split house and senate. Camping up by galena this weekend the DNR officer showed me th emails from the state regarding their pay. The governor said don't worry...you get paid. One minute later the comptroller said the governor is wrong...no one gets paid. The DOC is about to walk if there is no check so the National guard will be called up to man the prison parapets. You have to love Illinois.

We got the pay raise signed though.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
The governor also tried to raid the Southern (Illinois) University Retirement System. This retierement system is run really well and because of wise financial management just happens to have a lot of money in it. I think we pay into this system at around 8%. It has nothing to do with Chicago, but BLAGOYO just wanted to raid it, because he cant mange money. If education is really important he should stay away from it. Messing with this fund would disrupt the retirement of poor people who work at community colleges that can barely get by on what they make.

Now you wonder why I dont like the man?

You see whatever chicago decides, the rest of the state is stuck with it no matter if it makes sense or not. Because Chicago has such a large population however the people in Chicago vote, so goes the rest of the state. So the rest of the state is in slavery to a few counties around chicago whether we want to be or not. It is like everyone's vote in southern Illinois is worthless and irrelevent. So we just survive on what we have and ignore Chicago and do not care about the problems in Chicago. They are your problems so you solve them. It is like Chicago is in a different state.

The reason your vote down in SI "doesn't count" is because it's more center to right than left. As someone already mentioned, Chicago and the suburbs that feed it make up the vast majority of the states population. Folks - for whatever reason - tend to be left or left of center in city areas, so what you get are more Democrat's elected. These are no Southern Democrats, these are your big city Democrats.

Your situation down there isn't unique, the millions of us up here in the Chicago area that are middle of the road or right of center have the same problems you have.

Enjoy this time though, because when Clinton and/or Obama get elected to the Pres., then you'll be seeing some pain down there...

Chuck
 
Just when you think Daley can't be outdone...WHAMMO! Blago with the left-hook!

I think these guys are competing for the scummiest politian title; and they seem adamant to win it...
 
You go, Rod! Trade pork for pay raises and more social programs.

SPRINGFIELD -- Millions of dollars in projects and programs were slashed from the state budget Thursday as Gov. Rod Blagojevich wielded his veto pen to give him some financial wiggle room to launch new health care initiatives.

Cut from the spending plan sent to him by lawmakers last week was an estimated $463 million in funding for numerous road and bridge projects, educational programs and grants to universities.

Blagojevich, however, apparently took no action to cut pay raises lawmakers gave themselves, the governor and a number of high-ranking bureaucrats.

Blagojevich stands to see a $20,000 raise in a year that has seen a record-breaking budget stalemate.


"A budget should reflect the priorities of the people who elected us to make their lives better. That's why I'm removing almost $500 million in special pet projects and other spending that we simply can't afford," Blagojevich said in a prepared statement.

Blagojevich's cuts were aimed at freeing up cash to bankroll growth in taxpayer-funded health insurance programs for poor people. Lawmakers rejected his earlier proposals for a massive expansion of health insurance, leaving Blagojevich to find a different way to press forward on his own.

House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, earlier said the governor's tactics may violate the state constitution.

Lawmakers could override his vetoes, but Senate President Emil Jones, D-Chicago, has already said the Senate would leave the governor's cuts intact.

The governor's action Thursday does give Comptroller Dan Hynes the ability to begin paying state bills again. The state had been without a budget since Aug. 1, leaving vendors and hospitals without access to state payments.

The governor cut an estimated $141 million in what he called pork-barrel spending inserted in to the spending plan by local lawmakers.

Some of those projects, however, include bridge improvements, new ambulances and fire trucks.

The Southern Illinois University dental school will lose a $100,000 grant.

The Village of Milan will not get $75,000 to help build a new fire department and municipal building.

A $20,000 grant to an Iroquois County program that assists women who are raped was cut. A $65,000 grant to Planned Parenthood in east central Illinois was axed.

A $50,000 grant to help developmentally disabled residents in Will and Grundy counties also was cut.

Blagojevich hinted that he wants lawmakers to return to Springfield to take action on a larger statewide construction program, which could be paid for by revenue generated by a new gambling casino in Chicago.

"These changes improve the budget that lawmakers sent me. But there's more to be done. I look forward to working with them on a capital bill to provide funding for mass transit, and aging infrastructure like roads and bridges," the governor's statement said.
 
Now things are going to get messy. There is going to be an override attempt by the legislature. I wonder if whatever Blago has bought off the corrupt ass Senate president with to block the override will be enough to hold out against 90% of the body.

Not to mention this whole thing could end up in court.
 
I heard on the radio they are discussing amending the constitution to allow recalls. Some survey they did showed 85% support for it. Rod said he supported it, knowing of course that it will probably never get off the ground, and knowing that it wouldn't matter if he opposed it.
 
Originally posted by: alchemize
I heard on the radio they are discussing amending the constitution to allow recalls. Some survey they did showed 85% support for it. Rod said he supported it, knowing of course that it will probably never get off the ground, and knowing that it wouldn't matter if he opposed it.

There is always the hope that one of the several corruption investigations his office is undergoing bears fruit....
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Remember that O'bama is from Illinois, and he thinks the same way.

Obama's 'from' Illinois like Hillary is 'from' New York, though he has been there much longer than she's been here. Obama has lived and traveled around the world. Bush hadn't been to Europe until after he was president. Obama is not my first choice for president, but accusing him of having myopic politics is a shallow claim.
 
He lived here long enough to take a deal from one of our more popular thugs on a sweet land deal. Check out Tony Rezko

http://www.google.com/search?s...,GWYA:en&q=obama+rezko

He may not be "from" Illinois & Chicago, but he sure managed to cuddle up to the Chicago-Style (Cook County, Illinois) corruption fast enough.

He's crooked. Make no mistake. WHat you see in Blago, you'll see in Obama (hopefully minus the Elvis infatuation).




 
Originally posted by: ScottMac
He lived here long enough to take a deal from one of our more popular thugs on a sweet land deal. Check out Tony Rezko

http://www.google.com/search?s...,GWYA:en&q=obama+rezko

He may not be "from" Illinois & Chicago, but he sure managed to cuddle up to the Chicago-Style (Cook County, Illinois) corruption fast enough.

He's crooked. Make no mistake. WHat you see in Blago, you'll see in Obama (hopefully minus the Elvis infatuation).

I can only assume the silence to this post is because people considered dignifying it with a response as a waste of time. Luckily I have a few minutes to waste. Your assertion that this incident renders Obama "crooked" is slanderous drivel. I'll post the link to a cliff's version of events which is still too long and complicated for the average person to bother with. But your conclusion is not supported. Bad judgment on his part at most, maybe. Mountain out of a molehill, this one.

http://209.85.135.104/search?q...218%26s%3Dclarke122006
 
Take the Obama talk to another thread. We're talking about our ass of a governor here. I still think it is foolish that we allow them to determine their own pay. It ought to be up to the voters, they can initiate it but it would have to pass a popular vote. I think that we shouldn't be paying these guys more that 40k a year.
 
Originally posted by: GenHoth
Take the Obama talk to another thread. We're talking about our ass of a governor here. I still think it is foolish that we allow them to determine their own pay. It ought to be up to the voters, they can initiate it but it would have to pass a popular vote. I think that we shouldn't be paying these guys more that 40k a year.

That's the thing about threads Hoth, never can tell where they'll go. I started a thread about NAACP comments on Vick's guilty plea and it became a forum on whether dogs are property and thus ok to torture and kill, which has happened in every single Vick thread so far. But as I am not familiar at all with your governor, I'll decease further posts here, and hope the karma will work its way back around to me some day.
 
Originally posted by: sirjonk

That's the thing about threads Hoth, never can tell where they'll go. I started a thread about NAACP comments on Vick's guilty plea and it became a forum on whether dogs are property and thus ok to torture and kill, which has happened in every single Vick thread so far. But as I am not familiar at all with your governor, I'll decease further posts here, and hope the karma will work its way back around to me some day.

Its ok, I just didn't want it to totally lose focus before I could get a word in about our leaders. I'm sure you'll have plenty of chances to discuss Obama (I live in the same neighborhood he used to).
 
I have seen Blogoyovich talk and I dont trust him. Being from southern Illinois, I dont trust people from Chicago. I have lived through 2 periods following horrible storms where the electricity was out for around 10 days to 2 weeks and we did not get any help from the state of Illinois. So as far as I am concerned the Governor does not care about southern Illinois. In other states they practically gave away generators to help people out in the winter, but we just tried to stick it out. They could have at least been able to afford some free ice when it was 90 degrees and we had no electricity. Hell after 3 days you could not even buy a battery. All I can say is hold on to those old kerosine heaters and your Hurricane Lamps, and keep some dry goods on hand to survive when your civilization crumbles.
 
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