Illegals suing for instate tuition

[michal1980]

http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24174707-Immigrant-students-seek-Georgia-s-in-state-tuition-rates

lol. This is just golden. Talk about out of hand.

Oh BTW.

Heres a dem going nuts because illegals are asking us to change our laws.

Its brilliant at the end where he says we're a nation of laws.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...creams-on-House-Floor-Over-Immigration-Reform

And heres one of those fine undocumented workers that does jobs americans wont

http://newsdaytonabeach.com/illegal-immigrant-charged-with-raping-deaf-mute-woman-in-deland/

raping deaf and mute women.

 

[CanOWorms]

They live in the state. They should get in-state tuition.

 

[michal1980]

They live in the state. They should get in-state tuition.

No. They are not citizens.

 

[Jaskalas]

No. They are not citizens.

Why not, are they leaving?

 

[CanOWorms]

No. They are not citizens.

Not citizens of the US (likely only in passport status, they're probably citizens every other way), but residents of Georgia.

 

[Agent11]

We should deport them all. If they want American standard of living they should petition us to annex Mexico.

 

[compuwiz1]

Illegals should be able to take no priority over legal citizens. Their demands are brazen. They should be thankful they are not being thrown out on their asses in droves, not be making demands.

 

[Jaskalas]

Illegals should be able to take no priority over legal citizens. Their demands are brazen. They should be thankful they are not being thrown out on their asses in droves, not be making demands.

Should Africans have been thankful that they weren't sent back, and accepted second class status?

 

[Agent11]

Africans didn't sneak across the border.

 

[xj0hnx]

They live in the state. They should get in-state tuition.

No, they shouldn't. They should move back to their shit hole country and try to make it better, instead of turning ours into the same kind of shit hole they are trying to escape.

 

[xj0hnx]

Should Africans have been thankful that they weren't sent back, and accepted second class status?

Stupid question is stupid. Africans didn't sneak into the US, they were forced here as slaves, not even close to being relevant.

 

[Zaap]

Should Africans have been thankful that they weren't sent back, and accepted second class status?

Believe it or not there are illegal alien Africans as well. So the answer is yes.

(Seems in your worldview Africans=slaves and illegal aliens=Mexicans, so I'm merely explaining the answer for you using actual REAL WORLD terms.)

 

[compuwiz1]

Should Africans have been thankful that they weren't sent back, and accepted second class status?

It's not about class status. It's about law. It does strike a nerve with me that I have 4 members of my family who went through the legal process and became naturalized citizens, but yet, some people think we should just allow those who broke the law to get away with it, then reward them for their crime. It's a slap in the face to those in my family who did it right.

We should do the right things for the right reasons. Partisan weighted blanket amesty for the purpose of getting more Democrat votes is not one of the right reasons. Both parties just need to come together and say no. A secured border needs to be the priority, ahead of any further discussion of amnesty. After that we need to enforce the laws that we have. After that, maybe we can come up with a quota to allow numbers of people legal immigration.

 

[Zaap]

Compuwiz, it's all obvious stuff to most people, because it's common sense.

Some people just enjoy being willfully stupid on the issue of immigration for various boneheaded reasons. (They believe they're getting stuff cheap via slave/illegal labor, they think the US is unfair and owes any minority from anywhere anything they want, whenever they want it, even at the expense of homegrown minorities who are just vote-cows to them, or they're just leftwingers for whom willful ignorance is a badge of honor in most things, etc. etc.)

So no matter how rationally you explain the purpose of immigration laws and such, you'll just get the same dumb bullshit from the above types on this issue.

 

[techofalltrades]

And heres one of those fine undocumented workers that does jobs americans wont

http://newsdaytonabeach.com/illegal-immigrant-charged-with-raping-deaf-mute-woman-in-deland/

raping deaf and mute women.

well.. when they start raping babies, then it becomes relevant...

until then, fine american men will continue to do that job

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_4c98feac-96f0-52f6-84e6-f1099b197117.html

 

[Jaskalas]

Worst case scenario for them - you somehow avoid amnesty. They just wait a generation and 100% of their children are legal citizens, with a friends and family population of ~100 million, or one quarter of our entire population by then.

They will have majority control of multiple states, including California and probably Texas. That makes for a massively decisive factor in House seats and Presidential elections.

You're not going to avoid it, so how do you intend to deal with it? Shall we pretend they are going away? Treat them like second class citizens?

 

[BoomerD]

Round up ALL the illegal immigrants, box them up and ship them back to whatever country from where they came...The ONLY choice they should have is whether that trip is in a boxcar...or a pine box.

Doesn't matter if they're from Mexico, Guatemala, China, Ireland...they SHOULD NOT BE HERE and they DO NOT have the right to demand anything.
As for the protesters who claim our laws are tearing apart their families...NO, the illegal actions of their family is to blame for the tearing apart of their families.

It's WAY past time to re-write the 14th amendment to put an end to "birth tourism" and anchor babies. Any child born in the US of A to parents who are not US citizens should be a citizen of the country of origin of the parents. If ONE parent is a legal citizen...then the parents have to decide of what country they want their child to be a citizen...If BOTH parents are legal residents (immigrants of legal standing) then they should have the right to apply for citizenship for their child who was born in the US of A.
US citizenship should NOT be automatic for children born to foreign parents.

 

[Wreckem]

Worst case scenario for them - you somehow avoid amnesty. They just wait a generation and 100% of their children are legal citizens, with a friends and family population of ~100 million, or one quarter of our entire population by then.

They will have majority control of multiple states, including California and probably Texas. That makes for a massively decisive factor in House seats and Presidential elections.

You're not going to avoid it, so how do you intend to deal with it? Shall we pretend they are going away? Treat them like second class citizens?

Based on current trends CA will have a Hispanic plurality sometime in the next year and a majority around 2060.

Texas will have a Hispanic plurality before the next census and a majority by 2040(possibly sooner).

Oh and if was Republican Governor and Republics legislature in Texas that passed in state tuition for illegals in Texas. In reality th GOP is damned if they do or damned if they don't when it comes to immigration. They cannot stop the demographic trend so if they don't do anything they are screwed long term. If they do do something they are screwed short term. Either way they are screwed.

 

[Zaap]

I always challenge all the willfully ignorant pro-illegal types to themselves go try what they advocate for illegals in the US, in ANY other country. Heck, especially in Mexico.

Go ahead: go down to Mexico, take your family with you, no visa, no documents, no nothing, set up shop, take jobs, send your kids to their schools, then start demanding they change their laws/language/customs/culture to accommodate you, angrily inject yourself into their political system, demand bennies, amnesty, and any/everything you require to feel right at home be given to you.


When (not if) you get the f thrown in jail, beaten severely and ultimately tossed head first across the border, whine and bitch and snivel about how those mean people broke up your family.

So far, I've had zero takers. Most pro-illegal types can't shut up or put up.

 

[techofalltrades]

I always challenge all the willfully ignorant pro-illegal types to themselves go try what they advocate for illegals in the US, in ANY other country.

Lemme know what OTHER country praises themselves as the "land of the free" ..

and has a giant statue welcoming foreign immigrants, emblazoned with this plaque

 

[compuwiz1]

Lemme know what OTHER country praises themselves as the "land of the free" ..

and has a giant statue welcoming foreign immigrants, emblazoned with this plaque

Those were the days of founding America. Now that America has been founded and we have laws your argument is bunk. Ellis Island had controlled immigration back then. People didn't just rush the gate. To believe so is a falacy.

 

[techofalltrades]

Ellis Island had controlled immigration back then. People didn't just rush the gate. To believe so is a falacy.

If you believe that, then you believe a fallacy

If "illegal immigration" is a recent problem, The Los Angeles Times wouldnt have run a story in April 1926 indicating that many of the ranch workers in California’s Imperial Valley entered the U.S. illegally without passing the (then) literacy test and did not pay the $18 entrance fee.

In February of 1929, the U.S. House Immigration Committee wouldnt have heard testimony from government officials about problems at the border between the US, Canada, and Mexico.

If you have legal immigration, you WILL have illegal immigration.

It was the passing of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that even caused illegal immigration to rise sharply.

 

[compuwiz1]

If you believe that, then you believe a fallacy

If "illegal immigration" is a recent problem, The Los Angeles Times wouldnt have run a story in April 1926 indicating that many of the ranch workers in California’s Imperial Valley entered the U.S. illegally without passing the (then) literacy test and did not pay the $18 entrance fee.

In February of 1929, the U.S. House Immigration Committee wouldnt have heard testimony from government officials about problems at the border between the US, Canada, and Mexico.

If you have legal immigration, you WILL have illegal immigration.

It was the passing of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that even caused illegal immigration to rise sharply.

You smoke your dope...I'll smoke mine.

 

[Zaap]

Lemme know what OTHER country praises themselves as the "land of the free" ..

and has a giant statue welcoming foreign immigrants, emblazoned with this plaque

As said, people coming into Ellis Island (you know, where that inscription actually is, not on the southern border) did so legally.

People coming in that way also assimilated into American culture. Nothing about your (very typical) misuse of the statue of liberty inscription has a thing to do with our actual immigration laws and policies.

Gee, I've seen signs welcoming me to many foreign countries. So if the message is friendly "Welcome to ____!" I guess that means you get to interpret it as iron-clad immigration policy telling you to come on in, never leave, help yourself to jobs, bennies, make angry political demands, get resident tuition and anything else you desire, right?

Well, I issue you my challenge:. GO try it. Pick the country. Go do it.

Lemmie know what other country doesn't toss you out on your ass, let alone bends over to your demands. Look forward to you actually putting up or shutting up.

 

[xj0hnx]

Lemme know what OTHER country praises themselves as the "land of the free" ..

and has a giant statue welcoming foreign immigrants, emblazoned with this plaque

Yea, um, that's a plaque, not an immigration policy, D- for effort, but unfortunately overall F.