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Illegal immigration backers tear down US flag a Post office and hoist a Mexican flag
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Cutterhead
Senior member
Ok, you are right. We shouldn't call them "illegal immigrant backers." An angry mob of Mexicans yelling out "Death to the Minutemen!" clearly are vehemently against illegal immigration, as anyone with a sane head on his shoulders will tell you. We should instead call them something like "Supporters of the United States of Mexico," because this much more accurately and fairly classifies them as the peaceful and law-abiding people that they are. :roll:
Stop trying to turn this into a play on words. The point is that it doesn't matter what we call them, this behavior should not be tolerable in any self-respecting nation. It doesn't matter if they are illegal immigrants, citizens, illegal immigrant backers, or killer clowns from outer space... if they are trying to take down a US flag and fly a foreign flag on federal property, they should all be physically forced to stand down.
You, sir... are an absolute moron. It does indeed hurt me very deeply to see this kind of behavior being tolerated in our nation. It is a shame that you are under the impression (and rightly so), that in this country you can do everything and anything you please, and justify it in the name of your minority; crying out "Racist!" at all those who try to reason with you.
A minority who, by the way, you do not speak for, made up of many people who have come to this country through legal channels with honest intentions, people who I count as my friends and fellow Americans, people who would want nothing to do with you and the likes of those at this post office protest.
SpanishFry
Platinum Member
hahaha. yeah, and we'll be living on mars too.
Woah....these a$$hats must have take a page out of the RIAA/MPAA's manuel on how to deal with the American population: "Let's piss off the entire population of people that we are trying to deal with here."
This just makes me sick...and makes me leaning more to building a wall with snipers to keep out the ungreatful aliens. What more do they want? Free Education and Free Healthcare? Oh wait, thats been going on for 15+ years!
EDIT: I can not believe the number of ignorant, unAmerican, users ATOT has....The flag is more than just a cloth...its the symbology...thats why they thought flying the Mexican flag was the "right" thing to do. I say that all of you who don't give a sh!t about what is done with the American flag be deported to Mexico, or better yet to the militia in another Latin American country. Maybe if they make it back alive they will have a better appreciation for the US flag!
This just makes me sick...and makes me leaning more to building a wall with snipers to keep out the ungreatful aliens. What more do they want? Free Education and Free Healthcare? Oh wait, thats been going on for 15+ years!
EDIT: I can not believe the number of ignorant, unAmerican, users ATOT has....The flag is more than just a cloth...its the symbology...thats why they thought flying the Mexican flag was the "right" thing to do. I say that all of you who don't give a sh!t about what is done with the American flag be deported to Mexico, or better yet to the militia in another Latin American country. Maybe if they make it back alive they will have a better appreciation for the US flag!
This rather upsets me too. I don't like when people burn the flag or whatever, but I can actually live with it in the name of free speech. But taking down an American flag that is flying on government property and then raising the flag of another country is crossing a line with which I am not comfortable. It really is akin to an act of war. I just hope that does happen around here, though it wouldn't surprise me since Arkansas has the fastest growing Hispanic population in the US.
That's subjective. I agree. Stolen from the Mexicans? NO. But what about the Native Americans? They were the "first people here" and we came and took their place. If the Native Americans protested today and raised their tribunal flag (?) against ours, what would you say to that? Shoot them?
It's good to have alot of pride in this country but we have to remember that america was built on the foundation of struggles, bloodshed against others and even with ourselves, and eventually tolerance and democracy. America is a great melting pot, comprising of all colors of people. This is the blossoming beauty inherited from our founding fathers. We have to be tolerant, and somehow make a compromise before this matter escalates further.
jlbenedict
Banned
Tyson Foods chicken plants hire alot of those Hispanics. 🙂
Different directions? Maybe. But definitely the same destination. We want to resolve this issue right? Shooting them will create more issues. All those many peace groups in this country will come after our ass in a split second. What are we going to do? I have no fvcking idea but from past history we know that violence leads to MORE violence.
daniel1113
Diamond Member
Aren't post offices considered federal property? If so, how were these idiots not arrested or stopped by the police for vandalism, in the very least?
It's not different than any other federal building, such as the Capital building, for example. I'd like to see them try this crap there.
It's not different than any other federal building, such as the Capital building, for example. I'd like to see them try this crap there.
Queasy
Moderator<br>Console Gaming
I never said a thing about shooting them.
If you want to solve the illegal immigration problem in this country stop giving them so many incentives to come here. Stop it with in-state tuition for colleges for illegals. Punish employers that hire illegals. Punish people that rent to illegals. Stop it with giving babies born to illegals automatic citizenship...all that does is encourage illegals to come over here pregnant or get pregnant when they are over here. The above is just a start. Implementing stuff like this will result in the illegals going home because there won't be any reason for them to be here.
I find it somewhat ironic that illegal Mexican immigrants come to the USA and complain and rally yet Mexico gives illegal immigrants in that country zero rights. Even attempting to rally or setup demonstrations results in immediate arrest.
These illegal immigrants need to be in Mexico City protesting the corrupt and incompetent government there that has forced illegals to enter our country illegally because their home country gov't has f'd the economy.
The problem with illegal immigration is that it obviates the value of immigration itself. When you start as an illegal immigrant, you start outside the scope of society. Every social norm you violate thereafter is no longer a big deal. Technically, you don't even exist in this country, so what does it matter what you do. The big question is will amnesty pull an illegal immigrant out of the wilderness and back into civil society? After all, now the illegal immigrant has something to value, right? I don't think so. If they valued the concept of immigration, they wouldn't have come across illegally in the first place.
Immigration is essentially made of two things - a physical relocation and a relocation of your conscience. The first part just puts your body in a foreign land. The second part is what establishes that you belong there. When you immigrate illegally, you are fulfilling only the first part. Your conscience has more freedom to act outside the realm of that foreign society than it does to act as a part of it. In other words, as an illegal immigrant, you have more non-social freedoms than social freedoms.
Amnesty tries to give social freedoms in the hope that given an equal choice your conscience would choose social freedoms over non-social freedoms. This is fundamentally flawed. Human nature tends to take the path of least resistance. Social freedoms inevitably come with responsibilities. Whereas the only additional qualification for non-social freedoms is to not get caught. By providing amnesty without removing the non-social freedoms first, you end up removing the only qualification for non-social freedoms. You cannot get caught now - which is a benefit of social freedom - but since you came here illegally, you are still free to act illegally. The worst phase is going on right now, where most illegals know that amnesty is coming and start taking advantage of the social freedoms but since it is not here yet, they have a carte blanche to execute every single non-social freedom they have.
Of course, this is only a generalization and does not hold true in all cases. But, IMO, it explains why amnesty will never work. Send the fvckers back first. They can then wait in line like everybody else did :|
Immigration is essentially made of two things - a physical relocation and a relocation of your conscience. The first part just puts your body in a foreign land. The second part is what establishes that you belong there. When you immigrate illegally, you are fulfilling only the first part. Your conscience has more freedom to act outside the realm of that foreign society than it does to act as a part of it. In other words, as an illegal immigrant, you have more non-social freedoms than social freedoms.
Amnesty tries to give social freedoms in the hope that given an equal choice your conscience would choose social freedoms over non-social freedoms. This is fundamentally flawed. Human nature tends to take the path of least resistance. Social freedoms inevitably come with responsibilities. Whereas the only additional qualification for non-social freedoms is to not get caught. By providing amnesty without removing the non-social freedoms first, you end up removing the only qualification for non-social freedoms. You cannot get caught now - which is a benefit of social freedom - but since you came here illegally, you are still free to act illegally. The worst phase is going on right now, where most illegals know that amnesty is coming and start taking advantage of the social freedoms but since it is not here yet, they have a carte blanche to execute every single non-social freedom they have.
Of course, this is only a generalization and does not hold true in all cases. But, IMO, it explains why amnesty will never work. Send the fvckers back first. They can then wait in line like everybody else did :|
moshquerade
No Lifer
no one should condone or support illegal immigration. go about it legally. end of story.
darianandre
Member
I give up.
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