Illegal immigrant kills sanitation worker with SUV

conjur

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"Police say Gonzales, an illegal immigrant, wasn't paying attention to the road when he slammed into Mark and the truck"

"Even though Gonzales was an illegal immigrant, he still holds a valid Michigan Operator's License"

:frown:
 

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Having been on a Trauma service at a major metropolitan hospital, I can tell you that santiation workers always get hit by $hit. They are always jumping off of the truck into oncoming traffic or doing other stupid crap. Can't even remember how many we have had to put back together.
 

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Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
Originally posted by: conjur
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"Even though Gonzales was an illegal immigrant, he still holds a valid Michigan Operator's License"

:frown:

:disgust:

Ditto that, how in the world does an illegal immigrant get a drivers license?

 

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Originally posted by: aves2k
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: Zugzwang152
:disgust:
Ditto that, how in the world does an illegal immigrant get a drivers license?
That's a good damn question. :|

They pay for a fake SS# and get license from DMV, or pay to get straight license.
 

Triumph

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Our INS is useless. We should just lay thousands of land mines along our borders, trust me that would keep illegals out.
 

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Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

Hehehe, all problems are the result of Illegal Immigrants, didn't you know? ;)
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

What if that victim was your father? How would you feel if the person responsible wasn't a legal driver, much less even in the country legally?! Do you think that driver had insurance? I seriously doubt it.
 

rh71

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I'm trying to understand... was the guy pinned between the garbage truck and the Grand Cherokee ? Because it later said "he went inside the hopper, and the whole hopper closed in ... he was inside the truck."
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: rh71
I'm trying to understand... was the guy pinned between the garbage truck and the Grand Cherokee ? Because it later said "he went inside the hopper, and the whole hopper closed in ... he was inside the truck."

After the SUV was pulled away from the garbage truck...I guess at that point the body fell into the hopper.

:(
 

Brutuskend

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How the HELL does a illegal immigrant afford a fairly new SUV let alone get a valid drivers licence ?
 

The Sauce

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Clearly, the problem here was that he was driving an SUV. Boo SUV's!!!!
Agreed. Its bad enough he's here illegally, and making enough (how???) to afford an SUV, but then he's destroying the environment to boot.
 

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

The problem is that he should never have been driving in the first place?

Did you know that New York City actually has a policy of not reporting illegal immigrants who have been arrested to the INS? 5 Hispanic illegals raped a woman in Central Park. All had prior violent convictions against them, and all 5 were allowed to remain in the country. If they had been deported like they should have, that woman would never have been raped. A similar situation here; the man would still be alive if the system had worked. I'll try and find a link to that raping story.
 

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

What if that victim was your father? How would you feel if the person responsible wasn't a legal driver, much less even in the country legally?! Do you think that driver had insurance? I seriously doubt it.

Was the Illegal Immigrant an Illegal Driver too? He may have recevied his license legitimately, he may even have legitimate insurance(the Insurance Co might use his lack of citizenship as a way to weasel out though).
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
How the HELL does a illegal immigrant afford a fairly new SUV let alone get a valid drivers licence ?

A job? Perhaps.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: sandorski

Was the Illegal Immigrant an Illegal Driver too? He may have recevied his license legitimately, he may even have legitimate insurance(the Insurance Co might use his lack of citizenship as a way to weasel out though).

By definition that's an illegitimately obtained driver's license. He had to have committed fraud to get that driver's license.
 

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

No, I specifically have problems with illegal immigrants having a driver's license.
The point is moot that the guy is dead, I mean duh, we know that's not a factor here.

I just want to know WHY some ILLEGAL ALIEN has a FRIGGIN license!
They say driving is a Privilege...what kind of crap is this?

Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
How the HELL does a illegal immigrant afford a fairly new SUV let alone get a valid drivers licence ?

A job? Perhaps.

SO basically we got ourselves an illegal alien, with an illegal driver's license, who is working illegally, not paying taxes but driving an SUV? Hmm must be one of those that I see outside of the Gov't assistance housing apartments all the time...
 

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Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

Because the b@stard shouldn't even have been here.:|
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

No, I specifically have problems with illegal immigrants having a driver's license.
The point is moot that the guy is dead, I mean duh, we know that's not a factor here.

I just want to know WHY some ILLEGAL ALIEN has a FRIGGIN license!
They say driving is a Privilege...what kind of crap is this?

Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
How the HELL does a illegal immigrant afford a fairly new SUV let alone get a valid drivers licence ?

A job? Perhaps.

SO basically we got ourselves an illegal alien, with an illegal driver's license, who is working illegally, not paying taxes but driving an SUV? Hmm must be one of those that I see outside of the Gov't assistance housing apartments all the time...

Perhaps not, contrary to popular belief, Illegal Immigrant != System Leech.
 

Oakenfold

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Why does it matter that he is an illegal immigrant? Legal immigrants don't cause accidents? Americans don't kill people?

No, I specifically have problems with illegal immigrants having a driver's license.
The point is moot that the guy is dead, I mean duh, we know that's not a factor here.

I just want to know WHY some ILLEGAL ALIEN has a FRIGGIN license!
They say driving is a Privilege...what kind of crap is this?

Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
How the HELL does a illegal immigrant afford a fairly new SUV let alone get a valid drivers licence ?

A job? Perhaps.

SO basically we got ourselves an illegal alien, with an illegal driver's license, who is working illegally, not paying taxes but driving an SUV? Hmm must be one of those that I see outside of the Gov't assistance housing apartments all the time...

Perhaps not, contrary to popular belief, Illegal Immigrant != System Leech.

Hmm I get it confused civil and common law, the system that we aren't would suggest that since the individual is an illegal alien he should not have been able to get a job, shouldn't be here and is at fault for those reasons for the death of the man.

China for example would follow that logic.