Ignoring the will of the people

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Overturning ballot results is OK when the GOP says it is:

Missouri Will Not Expand Medicaid Despite Voters' Wishes, Governor Says

Last year, Missouri voters approved a ballot measure to expand Medicaid. But Republican lawmakers refused to appropriate money to fund it. Now, a legal battle is all but certain.

www.npr.org

 

[sactoking]

Party of law and order, blah blah blah.

 

[hal2kilo]

Overturning ballot results is OK when the GOP says it is:

Missouri Will Not Expand Medicaid Despite Voters' Wishes, Governor Says

Last year, Missouri voters approved a ballot measure to expand Medicaid. But Republican lawmakers refused to appropriate money to fund it. Now, a legal battle is all but certain.

www.npr.org

Cause in that state, apparently, elections do not have consequences.

 

[gothuevos]

You get what you vote for.

(not this ballot measure, but the state legislature)

 

[blackangst1]

California has a long history of over overturning the will of the people. This is not a Republican thing nor is it new.

 

[Jhhnn]

California has a long history of over overturning the will of the people. This is not a Republican thing nor is it new.

That's a quick diversionary move, huh? Lower taxes, smaller gubmint & less govt interference in your life are all good, even if it kills you.

 

[NostaSeronx]

-- "However, without a revenue source or funding authority from the General Assembly, we are unable to proceed with the expansion at this time and must withdraw our state plan amendments to ensure Missouri's existing MO HealthNet program remains solvent."

-- On May 7, 2021, the General Assembly finalized the state’s FY2022 budget without funding for MO HealthNet expansion or appropriation authority to DSS or the Office of the Governor. Since the ballot initiative was not self-funding and the General Assembly declined to appropriate funds, the executive branch lacks authority to proceed with MO HealthNet expansion at this time.

-- Without the necessary funds, DSS must withdraw the SPAs previously submitted to CMS to prevent more Missourians from becoming eligible for MO HealthNet than the state program has funds to cover.

-- However, the Missouri Constitution prohibits ballot initiatives from appropriating funds without creating a revenue source.

wHeRe iS tHe mOnEy?!

 

[Meghan54]

-- "However, without a revenue source or funding authority from the General Assembly, we are unable to proceed with the expansion at this time and must withdraw our state plan amendments to ensure Missouri's existing MO HealthNet program remains solvent."

-- On May 7, 2021, the General Assembly finalized the state’s FY2022 budget without funding for MO HealthNet expansion or appropriation authority to DSS or the Office of the Governor. Since the ballot initiative was not self-funding and the General Assembly declined to appropriate funds, the executive branch lacks authority to proceed with MO HealthNet expansion at this time.

-- Without the necessary funds, DSS must withdraw the SPAs previously submitted to CMS to prevent more Missourians from becoming eligible for MO HealthNet than the state program has funds to cover.

-- However, the Missouri Constitution prohibits ballot initiatives from appropriating funds without creating a revenue source.

wHeRe iS tHe mOnEy?!

As you probably don't know, under the ACA, the federal government covers 90% of Medicaid's expansion costs. Under the new Biden stimulus bill, newly expanding states would also receive a 5% bump in the federal funding match for their traditional Medicaid programs for two years. Because the traditional Medicaid population is significantly larger than the expansion population, the funding bump is projected to cover a state’s 10% match for expansion enrollees and then some over those two years.

Texas and Florida, the two largest holdout states, could net $5.9 billion and $3.5 billion respectively if they took the deal, according to estimates from the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. Even a smaller state like Mississippi is looking at $890 million in additional federal funding — while covering an estimated 100,000 people currently without any other option for health insurance.

A new Democratic plan to expand Medicaid hits a big snag: Republican governors

The Covid-19 stimulus bill isn’t going to fix the Medicaid expansion gap.

www.vox.com

That's where.

 

[fskimospy]

California has a long history of over overturning the will of the people. This is not a Republican thing nor is it new.

Example?

 

[pauldun170]

California has a long history of over overturning the will of the people. This is not a Republican thing nor is it new.

List the specific examples.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Because the traditional Medicaid population ...

... are not large campaign contributors .... fuggemall.

 

[Greenman]

-- "However, without a revenue source or funding authority from the General Assembly, we are unable to proceed with the expansion at this time and must withdraw our state plan amendments to ensure Missouri's existing MO HealthNet program remains solvent."

-- On May 7, 2021, the General Assembly finalized the state’s FY2022 budget without funding for MO HealthNet expansion or appropriation authority to DSS or the Office of the Governor. Since the ballot initiative was not self-funding and the General Assembly declined to appropriate funds, the executive branch lacks authority to proceed with MO HealthNet expansion at this time.

-- Without the necessary funds, DSS must withdraw the SPAs previously submitted to CMS to prevent more Missourians from becoming eligible for MO HealthNet than the state program has funds to cover.

-- However, the Missouri Constitution prohibits ballot initiatives from appropriating funds without creating a revenue source.

wHeRe iS tHe mOnEy?!

Seems like something that should have been thought about before the initiative was put on the ballot.

UHC needs to happen.

 

[blackangst1]

That's a quick diversionary move, huh? Lower taxes, smaller gubmint & less govt interference in your life are all good, even if it kills you.

What?

 

[VW MAN]

California has a long history of over overturning the will of the people. This is not a Republican thing nor is it new.

Such as?

 

[blackangst1]

Such as?

You dont remember prop 8? There are others, if youre interested. And its not just CA.

Where the People's Vote Can Be Negated by Legislators - Bloomberg

 

[Jhhnn]

What?

Deliberately obtuse often? Three posters already hit on your claim about California, even though the discussion is about Missouri.

 

[VW MAN]

You dont remember prop 8? There are others, if youre interested. And its not just CA.

Where the People's Vote Can Be Negated by Legislators - Bloomberg

Article skimmed, did not see California or Prop 8 mentioned...care you show what I am missing? If there's a long history of CA ignoring the will of the voters many examples should be easy for you to site. You were asked by others above to provide more information and examples...well, we're waiting...

Also, as I recall, prop 8 was passed by the voters and challenged in court. Court rulings at state and federal levels affected the proposition. Not exactly the same thing as a state legislature or governor not complying or disregarding or completely ignoring a passed by the voters law now is it?

Disingenuous fucks will twist shit to fit a bullshit narrative. Are you willing to not be a disingenuous fuck?

 

[blackangst1]

Deliberately obtuse often? Three posters already hit on your claim about California, even though the discussion is about Missouri.

I was making a point that its not uncommon. Guess youre not capable of complex thinking.

 

[pauldun170]

Proposition 8 Timeline for those need a refresher.

Timeline of California's Prop 8

A look at the legal fight involving Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage in California.

www.nbclosangeles.com

Still waiting on that "long history" of California overturning the will of the people.

 

[Jhhnn]

I was making a point that its not uncommon. Guess youre not capable of complex thinking.

Heh. Florida's efforts to prevent ex-offenders from voting would have been a better & more timely example, one you avoided to make your usual both sides argument.

 

[blackangst1]

Article skimmed, did not see California or Prop 8 mentioned...care you show what I am missing? If there's a long history of CA ignoring the will of the voters many examples should be easy for you to site. You were asked by others above to provide more information and examples...well, we're waiting...

Also, as I recall, prop 8 was passed by the voters and challenged in court. Court rulings at state and federal levels affected the proposition. Not exactly the same thing as a state legislature or governor not complying or disregarding or completely ignoring a passed by the voters law now is it?

Disingenuous fucks will twist shit to fit a bullshit narrative. Are you willing to not be a disingenuous fuck?

Man youre so scary with your language!

Anyway. Your memory is wrong. Prop 8 was overturned by a CA judge

And no, that article didnt mention prop 8, but it did go though how many times either a state judge, legislature, or governor can and has overturned a proposition (aka will of the people). What MS is doing is not anything outrageous.

Other CA overturned propositions can be found with a web search.

 

[kt]

You dont remember prop 8? There are others, if youre interested. And its not just CA.

Where the People's Vote Can Be Negated by Legislators - Bloomberg

Oh, you mean the Prop 8 that violated the U.S. Constitution? Why do you guys hate the U.S. Constitution so much?

 

[zinfamous]

I was making a point that its not uncommon. Guess youre not capable of complex thinking.

No, you were trying to make a point that it is equally common between Dems and Reps. It isn't. That is a lie. More bothsidesbitching.

It's a bad look.

 

[zinfamous]

Oh, you mean the Prop 8 that violated the U.S. Constitution? Why do you guys hate the U.S. Constitution so much?

Also, Prop 8 support was largely funded by out-of-CA interest groups--particularly the Mormon church and lobby operating out of Utah, that really did not want the gays to marry. One of those moments when conservatives hate other states trying to influence other states, except when they love to do it in support of their insane policies that only ever de-evolve society, and like prop 8, are deemed unconstitutional and spiteful. Predictable, because conservatives are fucking assholes.

 

[blackangst1]

No, you were trying to make a point that it is equally common between Dems and Reps. It isn't. That is a lie. More bothsidesbitching.

It's a bad look.

No, I was making a point that overturning the will of the poeple isnt unusual. I mean, I said that. Obviously you read my comments through the lenses you created.