Ignoring the will of the people

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fskimospy

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Wait, you're now saying the legislature enacting something the public chose not to at the ballot box is overturning the will of the people? Like... what? This is getting crazier and crazier.



As for the second link, can you tell us precisely what will of the people you think was overturned there?
 

kt

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Well dont look to me to defend it. As Ive already said, it was terrible legislation.
You were the one who brought up Prop 8 as an example without giving all the relevant information. You're the reason there are laws to protect consumers, don't misrepresent what you're selling and you'll be fine. Otherwise, see you in court!
 
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fskimospy

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Yes. The votes dont lie.
You have now been reduced to arguing that the voters of California were attempting the overthrow of the federal government and that their will was thwarted.

I'm sorry but your argument has become absolutely insane. There's no way you actually believe this.

If you think this was their intent please provide me with literally a single shred of evidence that the end of the federal constitution was preferred by Californians over gay marriage.
 

blackangst1

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I think I just have a failure to communicate as you guys just dont get the point of what Im saying (I dont believe that for one second), even though its as clear as day: Youre either playing really stupid, or you really are. "The will of the people" gets overturned by state (and federal) government all the time. Now youre nitpicking my examples. Thats fine. I apologize for derailing the thread.

As to the OP, obviously the Gov is not giving "the people" what they want, thus...not giving the people what the want. We'll see if it gets sent to court.
 

dank69

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I think I just have a failure to communicate as you guys just dont get the point of what Im saying (I dont believe that for one second), even though its as clear as day: Youre either playing stupid, or you really are. "The will of the people" gets overturned by state (and federal) government all the time. Now youre nitpicking my examples. Thats fine. I apologize for derailing the thread.

As to the OP, obviously the Gov is not giving "the people" what they want, thus...not giving the people what the want. We'll see if it gets sent to court.
Nobody gives a shit about the result. We're complaining about the motive.
 

blackangst1

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Nobody gives a shit about the result. We're complaining about the motive.


Do you understand what a difference without distinction means?
 

dank69

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Nobody gives a shit about the result. We're complaining about the motive.

There is a major distinction. It's like if we make a thread about a parent never letting their kid have ice cream because the parent likes being an asshole and you chime in with well I know parents that won't let their kid who's allergic to nuts eat nuts...same thing.

They aren't remotely the same thing and you're an asshole for trying to pretend they are the same thing if you look at both at exactly the right angle.
 
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fskimospy

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I think I just have a failure to communicate as you guys just dont get the point of what Im saying (I dont believe that for one second), even though its as clear as day: Youre either playing really stupid, or you really are. "The will of the people" gets overturned by state (and federal) government all the time. Now youre nitpicking my examples. Thats fine. I apologize for derailing the thread.

As to the OP, obviously the Gov is not giving "the people" what they want, thus...not giving the people what the want. We'll see if it gets sent to court.
Do the people want to overthrow the constitution? If not, their will wasn't overturned.
 

VW MAN

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I think I just have a failure to communicate as you guys just dont get the point of what Im saying (I dont believe that for one second), even though its as clear as day: Youre either playing really stupid, or you really are. "The will of the people" gets overturned by state (and federal) government all the time. Now youre nitpicking my examples. Thats fine. I apologize for derailing the thread.

As to the OP, obviously the Gov is not giving "the people" what they want, thus...not giving the people what the want. We'll see if it gets sent to court.
Ahhh the you guys don't understand me excuse...the fuck we don't! You plainly and clearly said California goes against the will of its voters all the time. You got schooled son...admit you were talking outta your ass and that you will go to your room until you learn better!
 
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fskimospy

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If they didnt, why would they vote for such a law?
Because they didn't think about the constitutional implications. I would think this was obvious.

Is your argument that every time someone enacts an unconstitutional law they are expressing a preference for the destruction of the US constitution? Are you insane?
 

blackangst1

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Because they didn't think about the constitutional implications. I would think this was obvious.

Is your argument that every time someone enacts an unconstitutional law they are expressing a preference for the destruction of the US constitution? Are you insane?

I know many people think IRT Republicans, so sure. Why not?
 

pauldun170

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Holy fuck.
Are those the type of sites you actually read?


Proposition 66
Do you not understand the difference between Newsom's moratorium on executions and Proposition 66 intent to limit the appeals process?

That second link...WTF ever link of dumbassery.
Did you just google "Voice of the People" and pastes whatever was closest to the mouse cursor?
I'm actually embarrassed for anyone who has the link in their browser history.
 
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