if you're white, would you date a girl who has dated a black man?

[Kanalua]

i want to say no...but after reading a bit of this thread...I don't know...maybe...

 

[CHfan4ever]

Hmmm ok this is a very touchy subject.

Why people are so affraid of touching a girls who slept with a black?Because in the early 90' AIDS was attributed to blacks.I think that racist got a high because of aids.

Was i racist? Yes.I was calling myself as someone racist.Why? i dont know, but i had to hate black, because if i wasent i was not as cool as the other guys....till one day.

I was with 2 friends in a park, all really stone, and suddently, when i was talking to some ghost ( haha) i look back and ..OMG....one of my friend was receiving a beating by a black guy.Me and my other stone friend were totally frozen on place..watching that.Why we didnt really move? Because they were 14 other guy BEHIND the guy beating up our friend waiting...and they were just waiting we do a move.

2 minutes( i think...i was stoned.... ) later, the guy stop.And the gang left.A few minutes later, my friend went back home..and i ask my other friend...why they hell they beat up ben?He said to me " Its because he wrote on the book compartment of the black guy at school " Fvckin Nig6er " and i think they didnt like that. "

From that moment, i stop seeing those " friends" and start asking myself, why should i be racist?Because they beat my friend? No.I think not.I think my friend deserve this warning.He provoke first, and receive a beating for provoking.And from that moment, i decide not to judge people by their color, but by their personnality.When your 14 and you see that happen, sometime, it make you realise lot of stuff.You are racist because some people tell you to be.You are racist because you see that on tv.You are racist because someone of different color than you do a bad thing to you.Lots of things can make you turn racist...if you decide to judge the person you hate by his color and not his action/personnality.

NOw to the ultimate question.Would i slept with another woman who slept before with a black guy?yes.I already did.

Now another question here tho.Would i sleep with a woman of different color? YES.( GOD I DLOVE TO BANG TYRA BANKS ) Would i conceive a child with another woman of different color? HELL NO.I think that, 2 person who like each other have the right to do what ever they want( i got nothing against that, its their life) but i still think that mixing genes isnt appropriate in our society.I think we were born to do childrens with 2 person of the same color.I would never want chinese kid, as example, because its not me.I want my child to reflect myself, i dont want him to look physicaly different from me.I wont go date with an extremely ugly woman of the same color to conceive a chield either.I want my child to be beautiful(not pointing the other race here but pointing at the ugly chick) and look a lot like myself.And the woman i will choose have to be good looking so my child can be nice looking too, as myself and the woman i will choose.

I hope i didnt shock any different race peoples around here with my statement.I just think that biologicaly, we should make children with people of same genes.

Feel free to chat about my statement

 

[y2kc]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
I am pissed the mods have not shut this piece of Sh*& thread down

don't hold your breath. it's always been an open forum here when it comes to saying whatever you please about blacks here. if this title had asian or middle eastern it wouldn't have lasted 20 posts.

 

[TomKazansky]

i do have a funny feeling that this thread will sooner or later be locked

anyway, if the black guy has penetrated her vaginally, i'd probably think twice.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
get a freakin clue! he posts crap about his personal life on a messageboard and he is going to get unsolicited comments. he acted on "natural predjudices"? ohhh, so that is what you like to call it? that's cop-out bullcrap. what he is demonstrating is not natural. i don't come by his type of attitude "naturally". it would not make a bit of difference to me if someone i dated had dated someone out of my race previously. OP needs to see that he has some prejudice issues and seek counsel. who knows what other areas of his life his "immediate turn off" for African Americans is seeping into.

Perhaps it is ironic, but I see far more "hating" going on here, in many of these responses towards the OP's honesty than in the OP's original post, which was more of an insightful, starkly-honest introspection on his feelings in this matter. I didn't detect any trace of overtly-negative racial behavior, only that he was questioning his own use of race (and any possible associated/learned/taught mental/emotional stereotypes that might go along with that) as a discriminator for his personal romantic feelings.

Btw, moshquerade, I disagree strongly that "what he is demonstrating is not natural". Quite the contrary. I personally believe that it is an evolutionarily-ingrained part of our human behaviors. Given concious effort, that behavior can be overriden, like so many other basal human motivators. The very fact that he was willing to mention it, debate it, and hopefully gain insight towards his own feelings on the issue, is noteworthy. Please, don't be "hating on him" for being honest.

 

[geek4life]

Originally posted by: armatron
this is a serious poll. I always considered myself not racist... I don't (or try not to) judge people when I meet them, etc etc... but there's this girl who I found out date(d) a black guy... and for some reason I was immediately turned off by it...

what if your girl dated an asian/hispanic/arab guy?

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: Arkitech

Originally posted by: QuitBanningMe
I wouldn't and know why.

well fill us in

Why does it concern you what my preferences are? I don't care about yours. If you like white girls, black girls yellow girls....whatever...I don't care.

I personally would not date a black woman. Why? Similar to the reasons I won't date fat chicks, "ugly" women, or blondes. I do not find them attractive. Blame it on Darwin, my upringing whatever you like. I won't change my taste because someone else feels that I am limiting my options or someone else is offended because they are left out. Why the fvck should either one care.

As to the OPs situation with the girl having an AA ex yes it would turn me off. I already stated that I would not date a black girl. I want someone who shares my beliefs. I'm not sure how much of an obstacle it would be but it would be there.

Am I racist? Who knows? Seems to be a constantly evolving term and it is sad that it has gotten to the point where you are labeled as such for simply recognizing differences or your personal taste. Do I prejudge people based on race. No. Do I look down on interracial relationships? No. There are several in my family. It just isn't my thing.

I am am a preservationist of sorts. Again blame it on Darwin, my upringing, whatever. I personally do not wish to "mix" with other races. Do I expect the same of others. With the exception of a mate, no. Do I look down on those who do or see them as traitors? No. That is their thing. I'll do mine. Do I derive my preference not to mix out of a feeling of superiority? No. I would likely feel the same way no matter what color I was as many people do. Is it wrong to have pride in ones race or other traits and look for mates based on keeping continuing those traits?

To whoever said put a bunch of kids together and they will play together fine. At what age are you talking? Really that is BS. Kids start to segregate and form prejudices about 2-3 years old. About the time they become self aware. Spend some time at a daycare.

OMG teh racist. Lock the thread. Some of you people need to get a fvcking grip. You are definately showing how "tolerant" and "enlightened" you are. :roll:

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: armatron
this is a serious poll. I always considered myself not racist... I don't (or try not to) judge people when I meet them, etc etc... but there's this girl who I found out date(d) a black guy... and for some reason I was immediately turned off by it...

Your just scared your tiny white willy will not satisfy her because she has had a big black man. I am sure she will be turned off by how pathetic and narrow minded you are long before she even considers dating you.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
Hey armatron, I'm going to pre-fuck every girl you're interested in so you'll remain a virgin for the rest of your life.

That is very funny!

 

[Jeff7181]

NEVER... she's been tainted!!! LOL... wtf difference does it make?

*EDIT* Honestly though, I probably wouldn't, but not because she dated a black guy... more likely because the white girls who date black guys seem to be into the "hip hop scene" and I'm not interested in that type of girl.

**EDIT** BTW... if I only date virgins, does that make me sexist?

 

[daniel49]

No I wouldn't that would upset my wife:Q

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: daniel49
No I wouldn't that would upset my wife:Q

LOL

 

[nemesismk2]

We should all probably show armatron some compassion, he has obviously got a micro-penis or something!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: armatron
this is a serious poll. I always considered myself not racist... I don't (or try not to) judge people when I meet them, etc etc... but there's this girl who I found out date(d) a black guy... and for some reason I was immediately turned off by it...

I wouldn't date a girl who at one time dated you as it would be a sure sign that she at that time had she no self esteem and was extremely desperate.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
I am pissed the mods have not shut this piece of Sh*& thread down

This is NORMAL. But I'll lay money, if you say something even remotely about white people, you'll get a damn warning PM. BS threads like this are cliche. But its ok because its concerning blacks. Then you get all the ones who get in their little racial comments. These are the poster boys for Clorox.

You're awfully high and mighty for some one who carries the banner of war against the 'homosexual agenda'. But I suppose, discrimination is ok as long as it agrees with your personal set of ideals....heaven forbid an issue be discussed that may tread, ever so lightly, on those ideals you hold so high.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Yes, and I am. And we've been together happily for 3 years now.

That being said, I support the OP and his feelings. Rather than being a complete moron and labeling him a racist while refusing to listen to reason.

There's lots of good advice and logic in this thread, mostly from people like Queasy, Arkitech, PingSpike (brilliant pathological adaptation instinct analogy), AStar617, and WinstonSmith to name a few.

You'll have to ignore the ignorance from such posts as moshquerade, Ausm, purbeast0, djheater, and DivideBYZero and a few others.*

I couldn't say anything else helpful that hasn't been summed up already by posts made by the first group of people. But just to summarize... try not to judge her TOO quickly. Even though you might not be as attracted to her now as you were before, try to get to know her better, or the guy she dated. With such a knee-jerk reaction like this, you may be missing out on a great relationship with a great person.

I hope this topic wasn't originally meant to be flamebait, and that this is an actual personal situation.

Good luck,
mobobuff

read his thread title and first post again. it has "i am prejudice" written all over it. deal with it. the only ignorance i see is your coddling the OP when it is obvious he has racial bias.

Can you actually express your ideas, and give reasonable suggestions as to why the OP is a racist? Or is having a developed point too hard for you? Much easier to just slap on a label and call it a day, huh?

stop playing devil's advocate. :roll:

Why? Afraid you might be forced to think outside your tiny sphere of righteousness? Devil's advocate is an important tool for self reflection, it is at its core "putting oneself in another's shoes".

I'm not interested in how things should be, we all know that already, repeating it isn't going to make it so. I'm more interested in why things are.

Perhaps you should just cease reading the posts in this thread if they inflame you so much, and go back to witch hunting and torch carrying.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Diasper
As far as this thread, I'd like to get past the simple branding of racism - the very notion of racism is a world with so many connotations and is essence an emotionally charged word and is really a broad reaching word that disguises the underlying processes at work. The terming racism belongs in political/cultural branding and discussions - by the very first post of this thread, this discussion belongs beyond that as the author has tried to understand the underlying processes and reasons for his feelings and what they mean.

Moreover, even in any usuage of branding, the word 'racism' cannot be applied because by its very definition it is linked to the belief of superiority of one race over the other - something the originall poster has shown <i> no </i> such opinion and in fact expressed to the contrary. So here at most could be accused of insecurity ...now we could really attribute this to the wider formative societal pressures that one grows up in (we can consider the role of the media etc). Nevertheless, the original poster can be seen to be a victim of this as much that undoubtedly the rest of us, albeit over different issues and in different ways. Importantly, I would like to distance this discussion now from individuals and branding them and is why I am trying not to use names - the very fact is that this is not an uncommon feeling (poll results) and so does not deserve to be limited to individuals.

From my understanding, the crux of this post is the transformation of a woman from a focus of attraction to suddenly becoming completely devoid of it. Asking a more general question - why can we be suddenly not be attracted to a woman we were before after actually meeting her and talking to her? Because we realise she is not interesting to us either in her activities or personality and that we do not have anything in common with her to make her 'attractive' to us. Extrapolate this to a girl that one has been interested in and then suddenly find out that she has had a terrible past (eg had several porn stars at once as from earlier posters) and then again suddenly she is no longer attractive because she has shown herself to be outside of something we can identify with and make her interesting and attractive to us. This can be despite of her otherwise having all the qualities that would make her perfectly attractive to us - this would even override the fact she could be our very soulmate all things considered. Thus, I categorize the poster original response within this - the very fact is this girl going out with a black man has overridden any attractiveness and placed her outside something he can identify with / 'attractiveness radar'. This can be because he is not black and because he has been told by all the pressures of family and society (media) that black men <i> are </i> different. This can easily be seen from popular culture and music to popular myths. The particular problem with this in a relationship is that no matter who you are, you always compare yourself to your partner's exes and unless you can compare up - identify with them and find some reasons why <i>you</i> are better than them and why you are better suited to your partner and why she wants <i>you</i>. Supposing you are told black men are completely different (esp sexually) and have it has an ingrained accepted belief, how is one to compare to oneself to someone regarded as so different? Going out with someone to be happy one needs to reconcile with one's partners past such that they don't matter +/ you compare favourably with them. If you can't completely forget about them and can't quite compare yourself, how can one reconcile oneself? Of course, at this point on insecurities can become involved and inextricably complicate things where nothing short of a psychoanalytical thesis can answer adequately. However, the original poster has shown no such insecurities so I won't touch on that.

Anyway, this can be extrapolated to other races and other viewpoints - from the black male or indeed as one poster commented from an asian male viewpoint.

In short, one should ask while the notion of a soulmate is perhaps ridiculous, is it worth risking losing that someone who could be so perfectly suited to you, who could make the rest of your life so unbelievably happy?

Some interesting points made here. And no real conclusions jumped too.

 

[BDawg]

I married a girl who dated a black man. What's the big deal?

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
I am pissed the mods have not shut this piece of Sh*& thread down

This is NORMAL. But I'll lay money, if you say something even remotely about white people, you'll get a damn warning PM. BS threads like this are cliche. But its ok because its concerning blacks. Then you get all the ones who get in their little racial comments. These are the poster boys for Clorox.

You're awfully high and mighty for some one who carries the banner of war against the 'homosexual agenda'. But I suppose, discrimination is ok as long as it agrees with your personal set of ideals....heaven forbid an issue be discussed that may tread, ever so lightly, on those ideals you hold so high.

What else can you expect from an ignorant person? Ignorance and hypocrisy often go hand and hand together.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Yes, and I am. And we've been together happily for 3 years now.

That being said, I support the OP and his feelings. Rather than being a complete moron and labeling him a racist while refusing to listen to reason.

There's lots of good advice and logic in this thread, mostly from people like Queasy, Arkitech, PingSpike (brilliant pathological adaptation instinct analogy), AStar617, and WinstonSmith to name a few.

You'll have to ignore the ignorance from such posts as moshquerade, Ausm, purbeast0, djheater, and DivideBYZero and a few others.*

I couldn't say anything else helpful that hasn't been summed up already by posts made by the first group of people. But just to summarize... try not to judge her TOO quickly. Even though you might not be as attracted to her now as you were before, try to get to know her better, or the guy she dated. With such a knee-jerk reaction like this, you may be missing out on a great relationship with a great person.

I hope this topic wasn't originally meant to be flamebait, and that this is an actual personal situation.

Good luck,
mobobuff

read his thread title and first post again. it has "i am prejudice" written all over it. deal with it. the only ignorance i see is your coddling the OP when it is obvious he has racial bias.

Can you actually express your ideas, and give reasonable suggestions as to why the OP is a racist? Or is having a developed point too hard for you? Much easier to just slap on a label and call it a day, huh?

stop playing devil's advocate. :roll:

Why? Afraid you might be forced to think outside your tiny sphere of righteousness? Devil's advocate is an important tool for self reflection, it is at its core "putting oneself in another's shoes".

I'm not interested in how things should be, we all know that already, repeating it isn't going to make it so. I'm more interested in why things are.

Perhaps you should just cease reading the posts in this thread if they inflame you so much, and go back to witch hunting and torch carrying.

yeh, i remember you.... you are the one who also likes to physically beat women down.
therefore your opinion of anything means nothing.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
I am pissed the mods have not shut this piece of Sh*& thread down

This is NORMAL. But I'll lay money, if you say something even remotely about white people, you'll get a damn warning PM. BS threads like this are cliche. But its ok because its concerning blacks. Then you get all the ones who get in their little racial comments. These are the poster boys for Clorox.

I wouldn't agree with that - in fact I've seen you post racist things in the past without punishment. On the other hand, I've seen white racists perma-banned, at my request, on more than one occasion. As far as I'm concerned you're the most out-of-the-closet racist on this board.

FWIW, I think armatron and anyone who agrees with him are racist trash.

<--- white, have dated white, black, Asian, Indian, and Arab women

LOL I been suspended twice and one other time for some unknown reason my account wouldn't work for a couple of days. And I respond to the racist bastards and harshly I might add. Find one thread I have ever started based on race, you won't find any. I could care less about someone's color or race, but here do a search of the P&N and OT and you'll find threads with just down right hateful stuff in it and nothing gets said. Once I was arguing with one of the members and I said in the post that him and his "clan" not even thinking along "Klan" lines and you know what one of the mods, sends me this PM telling me how wrong I am. I was like wtf. But look at these posts, downright disgraceful. And the irony is that Anand who I have followed since he began and sounds like a really great guy, is maybe slightly darker than me. I have no problem with race threads, but when they give leeway to allow folks to post just racist hate stuff is a joke. And yea I get mad and get just as nasty in my posts in responding. I'll never forget the Mexican thread. But here is a fact for the white guys here, most women of any race whether white, asian, or hispanic that have dated both black guys and white guys, most of the time, I would easily say 80% of the time, they never ever want to date white guys again. So for all the white guys who are tooting their horns about they wouldn't date a girl who has been with a black guy, fact is for the most part those women don't want you anyway. And I am sure that the manhood while it may have something to do with it ain't the only reason.

 

[Robor]

Strange that the number of people who wouldn't date a girl who's previously dated a black guy is higher than that of an Asian guy in the other poll.

FWIW I voted yes. As long as the previous relationship is over then the past is the past.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Perhaps you should just cease reading the posts in this thread if they inflame you so much, and go back to witch hunting and torch carrying.

yeh, i remember you.... you are the one who also likes to physically beat women down.
therefore your opinion of anything means nothing.

Ask and you shall receive.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mobobuff
Yes, and I am. And we've been together happily for 3 years now.

That being said, I support the OP and his feelings. Rather than being a complete moron and labeling him a racist while refusing to listen to reason.

There's lots of good advice and logic in this thread, mostly from people like Queasy, Arkitech, PingSpike (brilliant pathological adaptation instinct analogy), AStar617, and WinstonSmith to name a few.

You'll have to ignore the ignorance from such posts as moshquerade, Ausm, purbeast0, djheater, and DivideBYZero and a few others.*

I couldn't say anything else helpful that hasn't been summed up already by posts made by the first group of people. But just to summarize... try not to judge her TOO quickly. Even though you might not be as attracted to her now as you were before, try to get to know her better, or the guy she dated. With such a knee-jerk reaction like this, you may be missing out on a great relationship with a great person.

I hope this topic wasn't originally meant to be flamebait, and that this is an actual personal situation.

Good luck,
mobobuff

read his thread title and first post again. it has "i am prejudice" written all over it. deal with it. the only ignorance i see is your coddling the OP when it is obvious he has racial bias.

Can you actually express your ideas, and give reasonable suggestions as to why the OP is a racist? Or is having a developed point too hard for you? Much easier to just slap on a label and call it a day, huh?

stop playing devil's advocate. :roll:

Why? Afraid you might be forced to think outside your tiny sphere of righteousness? Devil's advocate is an important tool for self reflection, it is at its core "putting oneself in another's shoes".

I'm not interested in how things should be, we all know that already, repeating it isn't going to make it so. I'm more interested in why things are.

Perhaps you should just cease reading the posts in this thread if they inflame you so much, and go back to witch hunting and torch carrying.

yeh, i remember you.... you are the one who also likes to physically beat women down.
therefore your opinion of anything means nothing.

Ask and you shall receive.

thanks for proving my point.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: classy
But here is a fact for the white guys here, most women of any race whether white, asian, or hispanic that have dated both black guys and white guys, most of the time, I would easily say 80% of the time, they never ever want to date white guys again. So for all the white guys who are tooting their horns about they wouldn't date a girl who has been with a black guy, fact is for the most part those women don't want you anyway. And I am sure that the manhood while it may have something to do with it ain't the only reason.

Fight racism with racism!! It always works.. Those damn White devils, statistical research has proven that amongst Classy's circle of friends 80% of all women won't date those evil crackers!!