If you try and stop 2 illegals from stealing your property you go to jail

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Zebo

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Don't steal from an old man. If he is too old to chase you, he'll just kill you.


The guy was what, 82 years old? He comes out and says "Stop theif" and they drive off. What's he supposed to do?

Duh...Keep finger off trigger unless fearing for his life, call the cops then call the insurance company like his state demands of him. :)
 

Ns1

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Doesn't matter. He was not in the 16 states where you can kill people for stealing on your property. And "can" doesn't mean "should."

should is implied

it's just too bad we can't (in 34 states)
 

nobodyknows

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Doesn't matter. He was not in the 16 states where you can kill people for stealing on your property. And "can" doesn't mean "should."
News flash, he didn't kill anybody. He shoot a thief, I say more power to him. We need more people like him IMO. Isn't one of the points of owning a gun so you can protect your property??
 

Zebo

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should is implied

it's just too bad we can't (in 34 states)
LOL no it's not Rambo. Tell me you would not feel bad killing some kid doing something screwy pranky all kids do when young and dumb? Or killing over an apple on your tree.
 

Zebo

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News flash, he didn't kill anybody. He shoot a thief, I say more power to him. We need more people like him IMO. Isn't one of the points of owning a gun so you can protect your property??

Depends man. Are we in a state of emergency where insurance loses will not be covered? Has SHTF? Is it a child? Does the property mean anything to me? Will it's loss rob me of livelihood? Generally, no, I would not shoot someone for stealing even though it's my right to in my state. I use firearms as tools to acquire game and will shoot two legged predators if I fear for me and mines life. Shooting someone for stealing under normal circumstances is close to murder IMO even in Saudi Arabia they only cut off your hand (and only if you don't need it, like a car/trailer, bread and food is a fine). And you want to Kill them (BTW protip - you don't shoot something unless you aim to kill it). Are we worse than fundis? Worse than most draconian place on the planet?
 
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Vic

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But there's the government for you - defend the criminals who aren't even citizens, and fuck over the citizen trying to defend his property.

My well-known disrespect for govt aside, your post makes no sense at all.

Govt in the US only cares about 2 things: taxes and votes. Contrary to what some might want to believe, illegals are not a reliable source of either.

And I say cheers to the old man. Maybe he overreacted, but he has a right to defend his property. Doesn't matter if the thieves' immigration status is legal or illegal either.
 

umbrella39

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This is what you get with liberals in places of power.

Just today in Detroit, a guy got off pretty light that killed a grandma who was cooking in her kitchen a block away when he was shooting his legal firearm at the guy who had just carjacked him fleeing down the street.

Yep, that's what you get with liberals in places of power. Serve a couple of months then probation.

GYHOOYA
 
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Jaskalas

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Seriously? Over a piece of scrap metal? I couldn't do that, actually any property who gives a fuck, that's why I buy insurance, but I respect your right.

Remind me to come visit when I need something. Since you apparently proclaim not to defend your property.

Would it help if I learned Spanish and got a tan?
 

shira

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Obama would have it no other way.

Retard. Wallace was arrested under Colorado STATE law, not by the feds. And for your further information, Colorado is an almost dead even purple state.
 

Zebo

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Remind me to come visit when I need something. Since you apparently proclaim not to defend your property.

Would it help if I learned Spanish and got a tan?

I leave my house unlocked 24/7 but you will get shot if you enter or licked to death by labs if I'm not home. Keys are in the ignition of all vehicles. I just don't worry that much about stuff getting stolen. What I do worry about is losing my keys and can't get in or go to lake. Keys cost like $100 ea these days:(

I even leave keys in ignition on boats in two slips 20 and 50 miles away from home.


Worst thing that happened was all my rods and reels got stolen off my boat (about 15) because I leave those on the deck as well when leaving. That's why I buy cheap walmart crappie rods.

Another big problem is racoons eating my minnows out of minnow bucket when I forget to shut live-well after too much whiskey. Those fuckers are amazing way they can get past gates and onto dock and into minnow bucket for food. Gotta give it up there.
 
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Zorkorist

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Gun laws are pretty simple. Don't kill anyone unless they are threatining life.

I say, string his 82 year old neck, up.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I leave my house unlocked 24/7 but you will get shot if you enter. Keys are in the ignition of all vehicles. I just don't worry that much about stuff getting stolen. What I do worry about is losing my keys and can't get in or go to lake. Keys cost like $100 ea these days:(

I even leave keys in ignition on boats in two slips 20 and 50 miles away from home.


Worst thing that happened was all my rods and reals got stolen off my boat (about 15) because I leave those on the deck as well when leaving. That's why I buy cheap walmart crappie rods.

Another big problem is racoons eating my minnows out of minnow bucket when I forget to shut live-well after too much whiskey. Those fuckers are amazing way they can get past gates and onto dock and into minnow bucket for food. Gotta give it up there.
Dude, I'm pretty sure I went water-skiing with your boat.

Sorry about your rods and reels... they bugged my girl-friend at the time... vegan, etc.

-John