If you got a $1760 parking violation would you cry?

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DigDog

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although i agee with the fine, as per thread title, yes, i would cry over a $2k fine.
 

justoh

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How about a $290 000 speeding fine?

A 53-year-old man learned that lesson after receiving a record-setting fine of nearly $290,000 for driving 85 mph in a 50 mph zone through the small town of St. Gallen.

http://www.wired.com/2010/01/record-speeding-fine-dents-swiss-bank-account/

Guess the guy was loaded. Makes sense to fine someone based on how much money they have? Otherwise you could easily just ignore shit. $1700 may be excessive as applied to her, though.
 
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Feneant2

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I think the fine is more than appropriate. But they should also confiscate the placard as it is being abused. I went to Target on Monday and 2 of the handicap spots were taken by 2 door convertible Mercedes' parked one behind the other... didn't strike me as the kind of car driving by someone with a disability.

Here the 'new' trend is parking reserved for pregnant women and those with young children. But as there is no law on it, tons of dicks park there anyways since they can't be enforced. Interesting enough, it's always people with nice cars that abuse it, it seems that money equates entitlement.
 

PliotronX

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Seems perfect to me. It's about time someone starts checking and cracking down on this. You cannot measure my fury when someone obviously able bodied parks in a handicapped spot. Some have mental conditions that facilitate the placard, many are scum using family members placards because they are too lazy to walk 40 extra feet.
This!! Perfectly normal looking individuals who are driving alone jump out of expensive cars, it's been getting pretty bad.
 

CPA

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Here's what I don't understand and will probably get pounded on this forum for saying it:

How does 40 extra feet make any difference in the life of a handicapped person, particularly one going into a 50,000+ square foot Walmart? Having the extra large parking spots or spots that are vertical compared to the rest for easy access is understandable, but why do they have to be in front? Because it makes us feel better? I don't buy the argument that it helps relieve the suffering, pain or otherwise of someone disabled. If that was true, we'd have laws requiring all products within 20 feet of the doors so disabled would have easy access to them.

Also, my thoughts have nothing to do with ramps, which are wholly acceptable for wheelchair access.
 

justoh

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Here's what I don't understand and will probably get pounded on this forum for saying it:

How does 40 extra feet make any difference in the life of a handicapped person, particularly one going into a 50,000+ square foot Walmart? Having the extra large parking spots or spots that are vertical compared to the rest for easy access is understandable, but why do they have to be in front? Because it makes us feel better? I don't buy the argument that it helps relieve the suffering, pain or otherwise of someone disabled. If that was true, we'd have laws requiring all products within 20 feet of the doors so disabled would have easy access to them.

Also, my thoughts have nothing to do with ramps, which are wholly acceptable for wheelchair access.

You're probably just jelly because you can't get one for your apparent mental disability.
 

Newell Steamer

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The law forbids the use of a disabled parking placard without the presence of the placard owner, even if their vehicle is the one being used.

While most of the people checked in Lot A were legitimate, it was a different story on some city streets.

KTVU was there as officers cited one woman for using her sister's blue disabled placard to park outside Costco on 10th St. in San Francisco.

I do not see an issue with this. She got what she deserved.
 

CPA

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You're probably just jelly because you can't get one for your apparent mental disability.

Yes, that's is, derp, derrrrrrrrpppp.

But, thanks for confirming it's because it makes us feel good.
 

NetWareHead

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I think they should give $1760 parking ticket to 2 kinds of assholes in this world:

1. Assholes that take up more than 2 spots so others dont park near them
2. Assholes that purposefully move all of their cars from their driveway and garage and into the street so nobody parks in front of their house.
 

cronos

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Here's what I don't understand and will probably get pounded on this forum for saying it:

How does 40 extra feet make any difference in the life of a handicapped person, particularly one going into a 50,000+ square foot Walmart? Having the extra large parking spots or spots that are vertical compared to the rest for easy access is understandable, but why do they have to be in front? Because it makes us feel better? I don't buy the argument that it helps relieve the suffering, pain or otherwise of someone disabled. If that was true, we'd have laws requiring all products within 20 feet of the doors so disabled would have easy access to them.

Also, my thoughts have nothing to do with ramps, which are wholly acceptable for wheelchair access.

As soon as they're inside they can hop into one of those motorized carts :D
 

alkemyst

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I'd would laugh at those assholes. Bunch of shitheads using disability placards when they aren't entitled to use them.

Sadly, down here they are pretty easy to get by having a doctor that doesn't give a shit.

I think the fines are awesome. What's really sad is those that just park in handicapped spaces with no placard or permit.
 

Exophase

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Here's what I don't understand and will probably get pounded on this forum for saying it:

How does 40 extra feet make any difference in the life of a handicapped person, particularly one going into a 50,000+ square foot Walmart? Having the extra large parking spots or spots that are vertical compared to the rest for easy access is understandable, but why do they have to be in front? Because it makes us feel better? I don't buy the argument that it helps relieve the suffering, pain or otherwise of someone disabled. If that was true, we'd have laws requiring all products within 20 feet of the doors so disabled would have easy access to them.

Also, my thoughts have nothing to do with ramps, which are wholly acceptable for wheelchair access.

It's only 40 extra feet if the spots near the handicapped spots haven't been taken. It's more about giving them a better chance of not having to park much further away. And of course not everywhere you park at is going to be a gigantic store like Wal-Mart. And personally I'd much rather not have the parking lot occupied by people very slowly making their way from one end to the other.

You already say you're okay with more space to facilitate wheelchairs, if you're going to reserve spaces like this anyway why not put them near the front?
 

Phanuel

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Hot chick who is a personal trainer at my apartment complex, disabled tag on her white BMW.

Seems legit.
 

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DrPizza

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It's kind of sad - I spent a few years working with developmentally handicapped people (and mentally handicapped) - many were in wheelchairs, some used walkers, etc. Even though we had the placard, we didn't use the handicap parking places. Except for some particular illnesses, I find it bizarre that people going to malls, for instance, need a handicapped spot. "Hey, park 40 feet closer, and walk 2 miles inside."
 

waggy

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I think the fine is more than appropriate. But they should also confiscate the placard as it is being abused. I went to Target on Monday and 2 of the handicap spots were taken by 2 door convertible Mercedes' parked one behind the other... didn't strike me as the kind of car driving by someone with a disability.

what kind of car should someone with a disability drive? since to you 2 door convertible Mercedes are out? also what makes driving a 2 door mercedes out for a person with a disability?
 

Ns1

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PSA:

Disabled/Handicapped + having enough money to buy a luxury car = not mutually exclusive.
 

CPA

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It's only 40 extra feet if the spots near the handicapped spots haven't been taken. It's more about giving them a better chance of not having to park much further away. And of course not everywhere you park at is going to be a gigantic store like Wal-Mart. And personally I'd much rather not have the parking lot occupied by people very slowly making their way from one end to the other.

You already say you're okay with more space to facilitate wheelchairs, if you're going to reserve spaces like this anyway why not put them near the front?

That's all well and good, it's the fact that it's the law that they be in front that I have an issue with.
 

Ns1

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That's all well and good, it's the fact that it's the law that they be in front that I have an issue with.

It actually does not appear to be a requirement in CA

22511.7. (a) In addition to Section 22511.8 for offstreet parking, a local authority may, by ordinance or resolution, designate onstreet parking spaces for the exclusive use of a vehicle that displays either a special identification license plate issued pursuant to Section 5007 or a distinguishing placard issued pursuant to Section 22511.55 or 22511.59.

(b) (1) Whenever a local authority so designates a parking space, it shall be indicated by blue paint on the curb or edge of the paved portion of the street adjacent to the space. In addition the local authority shall post immediately adjacent to and visible from the space a sign consisting of a profile view of a wheelchair with occupant in white on a blue background.

(2) The sign required pursuant to paragraph (1) shall clearly and conspicuously state the following: “Minimum Fine $250.” This paragraph applies only to signs for parking spaces constructed on or after July 1, 2008, and signs that are replaced on or after July 1, 2008.

(3) If the loading and unloading area of the pavement adjacent to a parking stall or space designated for disabled persons or disabled veterans is to be marked by a border and hatched lines, the border shall be painted blue and the hatched lines shall be painted a suitable contrasting color to the parking space. Blue or white paint is preferred. In addition, within the border the words “No Parking” shall be painted in white letters no less than 12 inches high. This paragraph applies only to parking spaces constructed on or after July 1, 2008, and painting that is done on or after July 1, 2008.

(c) This section does not restrict the privilege granted to disabled persons and disabled veterans by Section 22511.5.
 

Feneant2

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what kind of car should someone with a disability drive? since to you 2 door convertible Mercedes are out? also what makes driving a 2 door mercedes out for a person with a disability?

A white BMW, obviously. (in reference to the post a few up)

But no, what I mean is that most people with disabilities can typically not get in and out of a sports coupe that is low to the ground easily. At least the ones with a disability involving their legs/hips and not simply abusing the placard. The only 2 individuals I know with these placards are due to a bad hip replacement and the other to cancer in the brain/skull affecting their mobility. Neither of them would be able to get in this kind of car without hurting themselves.

And yes, I do believe that only people with a physical disability impacting their movement should be allowed to have these.
 

nageov3t

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oomph.

I had a roommate in college who abused handicapped parking. he got a temporary badge after having knee surgery, but even after he recouped, he just kept on using it.